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Sergei Kostitsyn leaves Hamilton Bulldogs - Suspended by Habs again (EDIT: Returned?)

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10-21-2009, 05:04 PM
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10-21-2009, 05:05 PM
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Nope, the only reason you want to give up Clowe is because he's playing like crap. Huskins is pretty much garbage, and we don't have any use for Sexsmith.

Trading AKost is not appealing at all, and if Halak ain't worth anything then we'll keep him. I don't give a **** about Sergei. Letting him go to Russia is the right move. Same thing with Andrei. If he wants to be a pissant (not likely considering Andrei is very different from his bro) then we'll deal with him the same way, too. No more accomodating these punks. No more trading them for nothing. If they're not worth anything, then they can **** off. The Habs should not let themselves get ripped off.

I do like Clowe but that's too much to give up just to welcome in Clowe.
By your own admission you'd rather let both Kostitsyn's potentially walk (in which you are saying they have no value to you). That would essentially make the trade:

Clowe
Huskins
Sexsmith
2nd

for

Halak

That doesn't make any sense. My goal was to give you an equivalent player to Andrei in Clowe (and they are almost identical) without the brother issue. Take Sergei off your hands as long as you guys are willing to eat Huskins (which you can certainly afford, just waive him). Sexsmith gives you a prospect to replace Halak as the backup that isn't about to go FA.

I thought it was a pretty decent offer. From the Shark's perspective, we wouldn't want the drama like i said, I was just wondering what hab's fan's felt the value was at this point.

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10-21-2009, 05:07 PM
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To Habs Powe to Flyers Kostitsyn.

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10-21-2009, 05:20 PM
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I was just reading the paper today and it said everything was going well, Sergei had alot of respect for the coach in Hamilton etc etc. Now this ****? if he wasn't done as a Hab before he sure as hell is now.

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10-21-2009, 05:23 PM
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By your own admission you'd rather let both Kostitsyn's potentially walk (in which you are saying they have no value to you). That would essentially make the trade:

Clowe
Huskins
Sexsmith
2nd

for

Halak

That doesn't make any sense. My goal was to give you an equivalent player to Andrei in Clowe (and they are almost identical) without the brother issue. Take Sergei off your hands as long as you guys are willing to eat Huskins (which you can certainly afford, just waive him). Sexsmith gives you a prospect to replace Halak as the backup that isn't about to go FA.

I thought it was a pretty decent offer. From the Shark's perspective, we wouldn't want the drama like i said, I was just wondering what hab's fan's felt the value was at this point.
Andrei's potential is to be better than Clowe, and Huskins is really unappealing. I also have no desire to trade Halak. It's that simple, what do the Habs gain from this trade? Just Clowe really. We lose Halak and Andrei Kostitsyn plus the chance that Sergei pulls his head out of his ass at some point. It's just not appealing and I'd rather take the chance of losing Andrei than making a trade like this.

That way, you don't get Andrei, Sergei or Halak. They can't hurt us.

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10-21-2009, 05:26 PM
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people are quick to blast the kid, and certainly he's taken the less intelligent approach to making his point...

but let's face it, he is, right now, much more talented and NHL ready than 3-4 of the guys currently playing for, and sucking it up with the Habs, a team that is among the leagues worst in goals for.

after watching yet another night where the team struggles to have any kind of offensive presence past the first line, and seeing a guy like Travis Moen getting ice time with Plekanec and A.Kost because none of the other wingers can cut it, can anyone really blame him for feeling like the team is more focused on proving a point to him then on icing their best lineup?

the habs are only shooting themselves in the foot on this one. If he does leave for the KHL, it will be one more talented, top 6 caliber young player plying his trade in europe despite having been willing to move his life to NA and play for the habs.

The more the habs struggle to ice a 2nd line that can produce, the more ridiculous this mismanagement looks.

S.Kost doesn't belong in the AHL, he knows it and he (right or wrongly) doesn't have the patience to sit by and watch.

people might try to argue that it's because he wouldn't conform to Martin's system... well watching Spacek or Gill out there turning over the puck every other possession, it's hard to imagine Martin is very pleased with the decisions they're making, but as Gainey's UFA purchases, they get a much longer leash... is that right???
What are you talking about ? He wasn't good enough to make the team out of camp(skill and potential are not enough , hard work is required) , refused his assignment to Hamilton then demanded to be traded and now this . How is this mis-management ?

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10-21-2009, 05:28 PM
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Id take a chance on him in Philly for a 7th rounder or somethin. Hey, we got Legein, why not go all in?

He could have some ok ice time in Philly and he'd be playing with much better players, the guy has talent thats for sure....

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According to the thread on Montreal board, a Montreal radio station is saying that Sergei may have had ANOTHER change of heart and decided he will join the team before their next game.

Definitely just a rumor at this point..but if true, this kid has some major issues.

I hope the Habs tell him to **** off and ship him off to Russia.

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Any link in English, for the small minority of us that don't speak/read French?

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Can`t blame him. The minors are crap.

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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=295602

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10-21-2009, 05:37 PM
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According to the thread on Montreal board, a Montreal radio station is saying that Sergei may have had ANOTHER change of heart and decided he will join the team before their next game.

Definitely just a rumor at this point..but if true, this kid has some major issues.

I hope the Habs tell him to **** off and ship him off to Russia.
He will be better off playing in KHL then playing in the AHL.

He has every right to play where he wants, so why would he kill him self playing in the AHL? He has to have some unbelievable loyalty to Habs?
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Have fun in Russia you little piece of ****. I sincerely hope he never plays another game in a Habs uniform.
He has no major issues but you do.

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Taken from the Canucks forum Around the NHL thread:

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=533890
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=539541
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=491204
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=511385

It was mostly just a few Habs fans, I think most people know better.

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And there goes any trade value and the possibility of any trade....

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Taken from the Canucks forum Around the NHL thread:

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=533890
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=539541
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=491204
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=511385

It was mostly just a few Habs fans, I think most people know better.
I wonder how many people would take their votes back

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Hardly a rousing endorsement, and I don't think that it was the majority opinion, but it didn't take much searching to find this.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=544853

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He has every right to play where he wants, so why would he kill him self playing in the AHL? He has to have some unbelievable loyalty to Habs?
He has no major issues but you do.
Every right to play where he wants? Are you kidding me? He's on an entry level contract with the Habs and he actually thinks he's entitled to something. It's laughable. I mean, who does this kid think he is? What has he done to have the right to decide where he's going to play?

This is the same kid that directly after playing his final game in London joined the Hamilton Bulldogs and when he found out that he was going to be a healthy scratch, he pouted and went back home.

Then, he pouts and demands a trade after being sent down to Hamilton at the beginning of this season. He then has a change of heart, and decides to report. THEN, after a few games he decides to leave the Bulldogs and gets suspended again. Now, a radio station in Montreal is saying he's had yet ANOTHER change of heart and will be joining the team in Texas.

How can anyone defend this idiot?

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what an idiot.

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I still see Edmonton or Chicago taking a fly on him.

And by a fly, I mean claiming him on waivers. But, he wouldn't even make it to them.

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How the mighty have fallen. At the start of last year many argued that the Kostitsyn's were better (or soon to be) than the Sedin's. Now Sergei is out of the league and AK is struggling to make any form of impact. Is kinda sad to see really.

Hope Sergei can find a bench to warm in Russia.
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Exaggerating much? There are always some idiots to say such things, but I wouldn't say many.
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Taken from the Canucks forum Around the NHL thread:

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=533890
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=539541
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=491204
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=511385

It was mostly just a few Habs fans, I think most people know better.
From the 4 listed polls the Kostitsyn's garnered anywhere from 26 to 43% of the vote. The average of the four polls fall in around the 35~36% mark. Does over 1/3rd of all posters picking the Kostitsyn brothers not amount to many? As I am sure you know I never said most.

I would imagine if it was just the Canadien fans that were polled the % would have been heavily in favour of the Kostitsyn's. So my point stands.

Thank you MMHH for doing the research for me.

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lol 50 pt player (andrei) and a AHL'er in sergei VS two ppg players... yeah thats a tough one

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According to the thread on Montreal board, a Montreal radio station is saying that Sergei may have had ANOTHER change of heart and decided he will join the team before their next game.

Definitely just a rumor at this point..but if true, this kid has some major issues.

I hope the Habs tell him to **** off and ship him off to Russia.
Sergei K is the first lady to play in the NHL.

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Give you Krajicek for him.

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I still see Edmonton or Chicago taking a fly on him.

And by a fly, I mean claiming him on waivers. But, he wouldn't even make it to them.
As an Oilers fan, I would still like to see them take a chance on Kostitsyn.

Gagner hasn't played as well as he has the last two seasons thus far, and it might help if he had his former linemate and friend on the team.

Plus Pat Quinn has a way of getting players to play to their full ability (ie. Gilbert Brule and Dustin Penner)

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I'd hold out for Luongo if I were you.

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