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10-26-2009, 10:17 PM
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Since Jones was sent down I take it that the team has been somewhat satisfied with Colin Wilson's start?
I don't know how we couldn't be. Other than his defensive blooper on the Foligno goal against Ottawa, he has been very solid. Hopefully the offense will come.

As far as O'Reilly goes, he hasn't really stood out either way. If Santorelli performs well up the middle, he's the odd man out when Arnott comes back and we may lose him to waivers.

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10-27-2009, 07:22 AM
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Well I feel bad for Jones, I mean how can you produce when you get limited minutes with Belak and Guite? And yeah we will not start winning unless the guys we are paying the most start playing better.

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10-27-2009, 08:35 AM
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According to Glennon reporting on Mullen's notes, the lines from yesterday's practice were:

Sullivan - Wilson - Hornqvist
Dumont - Legwand - Scatchard
Erat - Santorelli - Ward
Smithson - Goc - Belak

http://blogs.tennessean.com/predator...fle-continues/

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10-27-2009, 12:24 PM
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Isn't Wilson too slow to be on that line? I hope they aren't called for offsides every time they break in.

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10-27-2009, 12:26 PM
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Looks like interesting lines.

O'Reilly looks like the odd man out.

I think it was good to send Jones to Milwaukee. He just hasn't seemed to show the flash he showed for a little last year.

Why do you think the Leggy on the wing experiment hasn't been retried since those couple of games last year? We do seem to have a surplus of centers. Are the defensive responsibilities of a center that much more than that of a winger?

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10-27-2009, 12:28 PM
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Isn't Wilson too slow to be on that line? I hope they aren't called for offsides every time they break in.
I assume you're kidding. Those are some of the fastest out there.

As long as Sully doesn't circle on the blue line and try to carry it in between 3 people , they should be fine.

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10-27-2009, 12:38 PM
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I don't know. During the Ottawa game there were times when Wilson seemed to be struggling to keep up on the rush through the neutral zone. Maybe I'm "misremembering", but I can recall one specific time with clarity when he had his head down struggling to accelerate, and he hadn't been on the ice long.

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10-27-2009, 12:48 PM
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I don't know. During the Ottawa game there were times when Wilson seemed to be struggling to keep up on the rush through the neutral zone. Maybe I'm "misremembering", but I can recall one specific time with clarity when he had his head down struggling to accelerate, and he hadn't been on the ice long.
You may be right........

I'm hoping they can pass and swoop thru the d in the neutral zone.
yes, I am an optimist.....LOL

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10-27-2009, 01:01 PM
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During my painful shower where I contemplated removing my leg above the knee I thought about it. I guess Wilson can't be much slower than Arnott's big ***... I think if he is too slow he'll be smart enough to feed the puck ahead to either of his wings or to one of the corners rather than trying to carry it in. If that line can get set up I think we could see beautiful plays.

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10-27-2009, 01:07 PM
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During my painful shower where I contemplated removing my leg above the knee I thought about it. I guess Wilson can't be much slower than Arnott's big ***... I think if he is too slow he'll be smart enough to feed the puck ahead to either of his wings or to one of the corners rather than trying to carry it in. If that line can get set up I think we could see beautiful plays
Exactly, Wilson is about as fast as Arnott. I wouldn't be worried about the line heading into the zone on an initial rush because Sully or Hornqvist can carry the puck wide with speed, Wilson then reads where Hornqvist goes (if to the net, Wilson stays in the high slot, if he comes high to the middle, then Wilson goes to the net), and they work from there.

Where the speed factor might come into play would be on a quick regroup if Wilson is stuck deep in the zone, it would eliminate carrying the puck in to go back on the attack and would lead to a loose puck, dump-in situation...

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10-27-2009, 01:10 PM
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We're going to see exactly how good his hockey sense is tomorrow night. I'm saving my bottle of bourbon just in case.

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We're going to see exactly how good his hockey sense is tomorrow night. I'm saving my bottle of bourbon just in case.
Might need two.

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10-27-2009, 03:46 PM
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10-27-2009, 05:02 PM
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According to Glennon reporting on Mullen's notes, the lines from yesterday's practice were:

Sullivan - Wilson - Hornqvist
Dumont - Legwand - Scatchard
Erat - Santorelli - Ward
Smithson - Goc - Belak

http://blogs.tennessean.com/predator...fle-continues/
ohh god

at least we're finally playing a team worse than us.
That second line is gonna get eaten alive.

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10-27-2009, 05:21 PM
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Haha. Good analogy.

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10-27-2009, 06:13 PM
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Is this the first time Legwand and Dumont have "officially" been on a line together?

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10-27-2009, 07:15 PM
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Is this the first time Legwand and Dumont have "officially" been on a line together?
No, I believe that during Legwand's wing experiment last season that he was on a line with Arnott at center and Dumont on the far wing...

Practice recap from this morning:
http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2009/1...eview-10-27-09

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10-27-2009, 10:20 PM
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No, I believe that during Legwand's wing experiment last season that he was on a line with Arnott at center and Dumont on the far wing...

Practice recap from this morning:
http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2009/1...eview-10-27-09
Still though, that's different. I'm excited for this. I've been saying all along that Legwand needs to have linemates that are better than him. Legwand doesn't make players around him better, but he can feed off other players' skills.

baaahh, why do I always support Legwand...

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10-29-2009, 03:28 PM
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Jones

The last few weeks i have got a sense that this organization is very low on Ryan Jones ability. Does he have a future here and do you think he will be called up again anytime soon and be given an opportunity to play more the 3 minutes a game like he was getting? For some reason I feel like he will be the next Peverly.

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10-29-2009, 03:41 PM
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The last few weeks i have got a sense that this organization is very low on Ryan Jones ability. Does he have a future here and do you think he will be called up again anytime soon and be given an opportunity to play more the 3 minutes a game like he was getting? For some reason I feel like he will be the next Peverly.
Jones is in Trotz's doghouse for some reason. Not really sure why. I don't think Jones will ever be as good as Peverley. IMO, Jones will tap out as a fringe 2nd/3rd liner, with good defensive instincts. As he gets older and more mature, he will see more playing time.

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Jones is in Trotz's doghouse for some reason. Not really sure why. I don't think Jones will ever be as good as Peverley. IMO, Jones will tap out as a fringe 2nd/3rd liner, with good defensive instincts. As he gets older and more mature, he will see more playing time.
Agree on all counts. I do think he suffered from us trying to get him to make the jump last year. Trotz seems to view him as the opposite of Ward- not enough "detail" in his game. He could be like Wardo in a year or two but I don't think he is the second coming of Scott Hartnell.

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I dunno. I see some bottled up potential and some areas of absolute brilliance when it comes to Jones. I truly believe that he would work better under a different system.

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Perhaps I overlooked it but where is Sulzer?

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I don't know. During the Ottawa game there were times when Wilson seemed to be struggling to keep up on the rush through the neutral zone. Maybe I'm "misremembering", but I can recall one specific time with clarity when he had his head down struggling to accelerate, and he hadn't been on the ice long.

On a neutral zone rush last night against the Hawks, Wilson flew up the middle to join Hornqvist drove to the net (although Horn decided to shoot)Wilson was there for the pass and looked quick! I think sometimes, he can look slow because of his skating style but when you really look at how many times he beats a man to the corners etc. he is not slow at all

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