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10-27-2009, 01:23 AM
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LA/Tor: Schenn Trade Proposal

To LA
Luke Schenn
Niclas Hagman

To Tor
2010 1st Round Pick
Oscar Moller
Matt Greene
Colten Tuebert

Hockey needs the Schenn brothers united

Rip away!

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10-27-2009, 01:27 AM
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To LA
Luke Schenn
Niclas Hagman

To Tor
2010 1st Round Pick
Oscar Moller
Matt Greene
Colten Tuebert

Hockey needs the Schenn brothers united

Rip away!
So send Brayden to Toronto...cause Luke ain't budging

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10-27-2009, 01:28 AM
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I don't think Burke would do it but that's a very good deal for LA I think.

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10-27-2009, 01:31 AM
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What is Moller's upside anyway? 2nd line? 1st line? Smallish guy? Haven't seen enough of him...but I do remember Luke plastering him last season

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Toronto needs another pick/prospect going back

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To LA
Luke Schenn
Niclas Hagman

To Tor
2010 1st Round Pick
Oscar Moller
Matt Greene
Colten Tuebert

Hockey needs the Schenn brothers united

Rip away!
Don't really care for Hagman much but I guess it's fair. In either case, I'd rather keep things as they are and Leafs fans are gonna throw a ***** fit about this one, so saddle up and get ready to ride out of town.

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What is Moller's upside anyway? 2nd line? 1st line? Smallish guy? Haven't seen enough of him...but I do remember Luke plastering him last season
He's got some talent, that's for sure, but he's a pipsqueak at this point. I am confident he will be a 20 goal 2nd line winger. He's got way too much heart not too. He gets plastered every game, but nothing stops him from chugging along and he is not at all afraid to go anywhere on the ice. I guess you could say his max potential is top line winger.

The deal would make LA a better team now and in the future, but Toronto never does that deal... even though Burke does love Moller.

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10-27-2009, 01:42 AM
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He's got some talent, that's for sure, but he's a pipsqueak at this point. I am confident he will be a 20 goal 2nd line winger. He's got way too much heart not too. He gets plastered every game, but nothing stops him from chugging along and he is not at all afraid to go anywhere on the ice. I guess you could say his max potential is top line winger.

The deal would make LA a better team now and in the future, but Toronto never does that deal... even though Burke does love Moller.
great insight...agreed...i'd do the deal...leafs wouldn't...and at this point they need someone that can score...kessel isn't going to carry the load (goals)

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10-27-2009, 01:51 AM
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He's got some talent, that's for sure, but he's a pipsqueak at this point. I am confident he will be a 20 goal 2nd line winger. He's got way too much heart not too. He gets plastered every game, but nothing stops him from chugging along and he is not at all afraid to go anywhere on the ice. I guess you could say his max potential is top line winger.

The deal would make LA a better team now and in the future, but Toronto never does that deal... even though Burke does love Moller.
Yeah I keep hearing he plays with passion and even great leadership qualities...ah well I'm sure if LA does a move or two it will at least be a decent one for them...just look at the Smyth trade and everyone said Avs won that...yeah, Smyth, Kopitar and LA's entire team says hi.

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10-27-2009, 04:26 AM
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Yeah I keep hearing he plays with passion and even great leadership qualities...ah well I'm sure if LA does a move or two it will at least be a decent one for them...just look at the Smyth trade and everyone said Avs won that...yeah, Smyth, Kopitar and LA's entire team says hi.
Very few people felt COL won that trade. Only thing people *****ed about was that Smyth was over the hill and over paid.

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10-27-2009, 04:33 AM
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I say whoever is higher in the standings wins the Smyth/Quincey trade. Colorado it is! We lose!

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Trade away hat trick Hagman? No freaking way

Schenn the younger one to Toronto for Beauchemin and Kadri would be a better deal. From a Toronto POV that is.

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10-27-2009, 08:46 AM
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For as much as people have been opposed to trading Schenn I've actually started to warm to the idea

Schenn is still so young and definetely a rock solid dman. He's definetly struggled this year but which Leaf hasn't. Overall though he seems to have this reputation of a big hitter even though he never really throws any big hits.

With the acquisition of Kessel the Leafs have the option of another franchise player and if moving Schenn can bring them 4 to 5 legitimate pieces I definetly consider it.

For this deal:

The pick is great, helps with all the talk about giving up the picks for Kessel but the Leafs need to start winning now. So I'd drop that

Teubert is another solid stay at home dman prospect so the Leafs might not even be taking a step back here if Schenn doesn't turn out to full potential.

Moller is a solid prospect but not sure they want another undersized forward to build with considering they do have Kadri.

I'd rather see a prospect like Lewis or even Purcell as someone that could potentially line up beside Kessel

Then make the Kings overpay if they really want to pair the brothers and ask for Hickey as well. Hickey and Teubert would be an amazing young pair to put as part of the new core.

Hickey, Teubert, and Purcell/Lewis for Schenn + (maybe even a Tlusty if the Hickey addition is to much)

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10-27-2009, 09:34 AM
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For as much as people have been opposed to trading Schenn I've actually started to warm to the idea

Schenn is still so young and definetely a rock solid dman. He's definetly struggled this year but which Leaf hasn't. Overall though he seems to have this reputation of a big hitter even though he never really throws any big hits.

With the acquisition of Kessel the Leafs have the option of another franchise player and if moving Schenn can bring them 4 to 5 legitimate pieces I definetly consider it.

For this deal:

The pick is great, helps with all the talk about giving up the picks for Kessel but the Leafs need to start winning now. So I'd drop that

Teubert is another solid stay at home dman prospect so the Leafs might not even be taking a step back here if Schenn doesn't turn out to full potential.

Moller is a solid prospect but not sure they want another undersized forward to build with considering they do have Kadri.

I'd rather see a prospect like Lewis or even Purcell as someone that could potentially line up beside Kessel

Then make the Kings overpay if they really want to pair the brothers and ask for Hickey as well. Hickey and Teubert would be an amazing young pair to put as part of the new core.

Hickey, Teubert, and Purcell/Lewis for Schenn + (maybe even a Tlusty if the Hickey addition is to much)
So, just for my clarification, is the following essentially what you're proposing?

To TOR:
Hickey
Teubert
Purcell/Lewis

To LA:
Schenn
Tlusty

If so, then I'm not sure if either team would pull the trigger. I am one who is quite loathe to trade young players like L. Schenn, however, I would certainly deeply consider any potential trade if I felt that it would help improve my team. At this point, though, I would need to get more information on the LA players before I make a judgement on this proposal.

If the above is not what you had in mind, then please clarify it for me.

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10-27-2009, 09:52 AM
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i love the idea of this trade from a toronto perspective...i dont think shenn will ever be atop dman...and his trade value is very high so he can bring in the amount and quality of players that can change the team....

i think the value in this proposal is very good...but i dont think it is the right kind of players going to toronto...even though the value is right i would rather see something like this

TO LA
SHENN
GRABOVSKI

TO LEAFS
STOLL
MARTINEZ
TEUBURT
MOLLER
SIMMONDS
1ST ROUNDER 2010

thoughts?

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i love the idea of this trade from a toronto perspective...i dont think shenn will ever be atop dman...and his trade value is very high so he can bring in the amount and quality of players that can change the team....

i think the value in this proposal is very good...but i dont think it is the right kind of players going to toronto...even though the value is right i would rather see something like this

TO LA
SHENN
GRABOVSKI

TO LEAFS
STOLL
MARTINEZ
TEUBURT
MOLLER
SIMMONDS
1ST ROUNDER 2010

thoughts?
Definitely NO on Simmonds.

How about?
Teubert
Moller
Lewis or Martinez
'10 1st Rounder
'10 3rd Rounder

for

L. Schenn

TOR gets two quality prospects that would instantly go into their top 5 prospects. A physical shutdown defenseman prospect, a versatile center prospect that can play wing, was captain of Team Sweden and someone that Burke already likes, a 3rd/4th line 2-way center that can play wing as well that has good speed, and 2 high draft picks in a deep draft to compensate for having only one pick in the first three rounds next season.


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Toronto would be looking for if they were to trade Schenn, but it ain't happening.

There is enough in this deal to negotiate something out of it, but Schenn is untouchable the Leafs will not trade him.

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How about you trade your Captain, for our future captain?

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...just look at the Smyth trade and everyone said Avs won that...yeah, Smyth, Kopitar and LA's entire team says hi.
Guess you were out of town when the trade went down. If you need to, you can utilize the search tool to see for yourself what "everyone" really "said" regarding that trade.

As for the trade proposal, while Schenn is a fine young defenseman, LA is giving up way too much. Likely, it would take an overpayment to dislodge Schenn from Toronto, but I can't see LA, or any team for that matter, offering up such a ransom.

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Why in the world would Toronto trade Schenn?

One of the explicit reasons that Burke gave to explain why he brought Komisarek and Beauchemin in was to decrease Schenn's responsibilities. The purpose of which would be for him to grow as a player. Allow him to work on his offensive game, etc.

As "untouchable" as a player (non-generational talent) is in the entire league.

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So, just for my clarification, is the following essentially what you're proposing?

To TOR:
Hickey
Teubert
Purcell/Lewis

To LA:
Schenn
Tlusty

If so, then I'm not sure if either team would pull the trigger. I am one who is quite loathe to trade young players like L. Schenn, however, I would certainly deeply consider any potential trade if I felt that it would help improve my team. At this point, though, I would need to get more information on the LA players before I make a judgement on this proposal.

If the above is not what you had in mind, then please clarify it for me.
oh yeah I want Stoll too he'd be a solid playmaking C for Kessel

Hicky, Teubert, Purcell/Lewis and Stoll for Schenn, Tlustly and Mitchell

Its definetly a hard trade for both teams but considering Toronto's start they may be considering a shake up / shift in direction type move and with LA being able to add a top end brother combo to the current core would be pretty amazing

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The only way this deal is fair is if LA's pick is a guaranteed top 10..

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If Toronto fans are o.k. with it, then where do I sign? Fax the paperwork to me and let's get this trade underway

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So send Brayden to Toronto...cause Luke ain't budging
L A has a better shot at getting Luke to jump ship because we have his brother who will still be an RFA when Luke is a UFA for one. So the fastest way, barring a trade, is for Luke to just come here after he served his time in TO. Second, we have Drew. He and Luke are buddies so he will be lured here by both Brayden and Drew. Sorry bout your luck Toronto.

By the way grats on you 1st win couldn't have picked a better team to notch it against

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Has Luke Schenn won a fight, ever? Seems to get into a lot of scraps but always ends up hurting some guy's fist with his face.

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