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04-11-2004, 12:49 PM
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Varada's hit on Sundin

Question, do any non Leafs fans think that Varada was going after Sundin's knee on that play? Or is this only the typical Leaf garbage?

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Maybe not the knee, but he was totally trying to take out the lower body. Dirty, dirty hit.

I especially like how Domi's blasting him for being one of the dirtiest players in the league afterwards...

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i didn't think so...
but boy, would that have been a HUGE hit

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I especially like how Domi's blasting him for being one of the dirtiest players in the league afterwards...
One elbow does not put you up there among the dirtiest players in the leauge if that is what you are implying.

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One elbow does not put you up there among the dirtiest players in the leauge if that is what you are implying.
...because aside from one elbow, Domi has been a perpetual Lady Byng contender

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...because aside from one elbow, Domi has been a perpetual Lady Byng contender
I never said he is a nice guy, but he is hardly one of the dirtiest players in the leauge.

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I never said he is a nice guy, but he is hardly one of the dirtiest players in the leauge.
He does tend to punch people with broken jaws and people who don't want to fight...

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i didn't think so...
but boy, would that have been a HUGE hit
I thought it was pretty clean.

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He does tend to punch people with broken jaws and people who don't want to fight...
Yes, and since you have a broken jaw and/or don't want to fight that gives you a free pass to swing your stick around Sundin and spear Domi in the jewels.

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I don't think Varada went for the legs, I think he underestimated how much Sundin would be leaning to the side. I think it's pretty clear that he let up, though, as he went flying after the contact - if he'd continued at full force he would have ploughed right through Sundin's legs (and probably caused a nasty injury)

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The hit was knee on knee, but it definately shouldn't have been a kneeing penalty.

It was only a hit to the knees because Sundin couldn't get his lower body out of the way as quickly as his upper body.

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I completly agree with him ^

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I thought it was pretty clean.
I love the hit in your avatar. I'm guessing that is Torres throwing the hit. That IMO is a clean hit, but it defenitely hit the lower body of the player getting hit.

Varada wasn't going for the knees, and I don't even think he was going for the lower body. Was he going to destroy Sundin? Sure. But Domi went and ran Bondra a couple games ago, and he ran Hossa (hit his back rather than front) earlier in that game. So I don't see how Domi can complain. Varada wasn't going for a knee on knee, his body was pretty condensed, and he actually brought his knee back in to his body a bit at the last second.

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One elbow does not put you up there among the dirtiest players in the leauge if that is what you are implying.

are you saying that the only bad thing domi has done in his career is the neidermayer elbow?

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I love the hit in your avatar. I'm guessing that is Torres throwing the hit. That IMO is a clean hit, but it defenitely hit the lower body of the player getting hit.
I'm pretty sure that it's MA Bergeron in that avatar

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I'm pretty sure that it's MA Bergeron in that avatar
That would make more sense than Torres, considering it looked like a defenceman stepping up. I only guessed Torres because The Brew's title was Torres....

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I think it would've been a clean hit, but it would've been a nasty move.

Which is why I was crackin' up when Sundin just took that guy by the face and threw him to the ice.

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that was the bergeron hit last year in the playoffs vs morrow.

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Considering Varada just returned from a torn ACL, I don't think he'd want to put himself in danger either.

Sundin moved his upper body, but couldn't move his lower body fast enough.

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One elbow does not put you up there among the dirtiest players in the leauge if that is what you are implying.
I think Ulf Samuelsson's face might disagree with you.

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Totally clean hit.

Domi was just pumped because it was Sundin getting hit and throwing out the kneeing suggestion at the ref made him look like a baby. Take care of it on the ice by hitting someone.

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All the whining from the Leafs wont disguise the fact that it was a clean hit.

As the other poster said, Sundin moved his upper body out of the way but couldnt move his lower body away so thats all there was left to hit.

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I agree that it didn't look like Varada was going for the lower body. If that had connected he would have sent Sundin into next week.

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I don't think there was anything wrong with the hit, I just don't like Varada period! :mad:

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Question, do any non Leafs fans think that Varada was going after Sundin's knee on that play? Or is this only the typical Leaf garbage?
He wasn't remotely going after Sundin's knee. If he wanted to, it would have been easy, since Sundin obligingly left his own knee out there when he pulled his upper body away. Instead, Varada kept his leg in tight when even natural instinct would have caused any player going for that hit to stretch it out in a split-second attempt to regain position on the elusive target.

Not that Varada is any angel or is above doing something dirty... he has ample track record of it. But there's absolutely no case on that play. *IF* he had managed to land his hit properly, *AND* he had brought and elbow up or something, it could have been really really ugly. But of course, nothing like that happened.

You could make as much case for Sundin going for the knee as Varada on this one. (Which is to say, zero case).

My $.02.

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