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04-11-2004, 06:38 PM
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I'll tell you what I think... That was a cheap shot by a young kid on a captain, the leading scorer in the league, and we get no call. How does that happen? Why is there no respect from those referees for the leading scorer in the league? I do not understand that for the life of me.

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I'll put in my 2cents...

As a Leafs fan, I didnt like what the guy was trying to do... But at the same time, I saw nothing wrong with it. It looked clean to me.

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I'll tell you what I think... That was a cheap shot by a young kid on a captain, the leading scorer in the league, and we get no call. How does that happen? Why is there no respect from those referees for the leading scorer in the league? I do not understand that for the life of me.
Are you trying to equate it to the Moore Naslund hit then? Do you mind explaining your thoughts a bit more?

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04-11-2004, 07:13 PM
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All the whining from the Leafs wont disguise the fact that it was a clean hit.

As the other poster said, Sundin moved his upper body out of the way but couldnt move his lower body away so thats all there was left to hit.
Who are you trying to fool 'Steve L'? If Domi had done that to Alfie you would be on here calling for his blood, whiner.

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04-11-2004, 07:16 PM
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Why is Vaclav even on the ice? he's not even trying to score, he clearly intended to injure Sundin.

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Why is Domi even on the ice? he's not even trying to score, he clearly intended to injure Hossa.

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Why is Domi even on the ice? he's not even trying to score, he clearly intended to injure Hossa.
Clever.

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Why is Domi even on the ice? he's not even trying to score, he clearly intended to injure Hossa.
Domi didn't try to take Hossa knee's out, it was a clean bodycheck.

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04-11-2004, 07:34 PM
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Varada didn't try to take Domi's knee out (as shown by the every non leaf fan here). Varada was trying to decapitate Sundin, as Domi did on Hossa....

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Varada didn't try to take Domi's knee out
Who said he did?

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(as shown by the every non leaf fan here).
That must make it true. Especially when you have unbiased opinions from people like 'Steve L'. (sarcasm)

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Nothing wrong with the play

More typical Leaf garbage. Varada made no attempt to take out Sundin's knee. Sundin is the one who left his knee exposed as he dove out of the way to prevent himself from getting killed. It was a clean attempt at a hit.

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Can we refrain from the "Leaf Garbage" crap please? you want to make an intellgent point don't try to rile up the Leaf fans, and it looked clean to me, so there. My 2 cents.

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I don't think he was going for his knees, but it would have been a charging penalty for sure and if he made contact it would have devastating. No worse than what I have seen Tucker do...but I do think anytime you go after a teams captain or best player like that you have to be prepared to answer for it, dirty or not. I suspect Verada won't last this series.

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Why is Vaclav even on the ice? he's not even trying to score, he clearly intended to injure Sundin.
When your on a line with Marian Hossa, you tend to get a little bit of ice time.

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Can we refrain from the "Leaf Garbage" crap please? you want to make an intellgent point don't try to rile up the Leaf fans, and it looked clean to me, so there. My 2 cents.

The "leaf garbage" phrase was used in the original post, I was merely referencing it. And if one sees incessant whining and double standards as "garbage" then there is nothing wrong with refering to it as such. Domi's reaction to the Varada hit was pathetic. I have seen the same crap before and it is very tiresome.

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04-11-2004, 09:24 PM
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Not that this thread even STARTED on the right foot, but you people need to leave the personal attacks and attacks on fan bases out of it, or this is getting closed.

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Not that this thread even STARTED on the right foot, but you people need to leave the personal attacks and attacks on fan bases out of it, or this is getting closed.
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Are you trying to equate it to the Moore Naslund hit then? Do you mind explaining your thoughts a bit more?
I dunno. That's all I've got.

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That would make more sense than Torres, considering it looked like a defenceman stepping up. I only guessed Torres because The Brew's title was Torres....
Ya it was Bergeron i had Torres in a earlier avator and forgot to change the title

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Varada has 27 career playoff points and was responsible for Ottawa's fourth goal on Thursday. For reference, that's more playoff points than half of the Leafs forwards.

But I suppose he has no business being on the ice.

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Varada has 27 career playoff points and was responsible for Ottawa's fourth goal on Thursday. For reference, that's more playoff points than half of the Leafs forwards.

But I suppose he has no business being on the ice.
Not true.

I count 8 forwards that have more points than Varada - Sundin, Mogilny, Francis, Nolan, Roberts, Nieuwendyk, Renberg, Reichel.

All of them also have higher PPG rates than Varada (in case anyone brings up the "well, of course the OLD Leaf forwards would have more points than Varada, they have played in the playoffs since the early 50's")

Tucker has a higher PPG than Varada (SLIGHTLY) but has less points in less games.

Varada is better than Antropov, Ponikarovsky, Domi, Fitzgerald and Kilger.

Varada is a quality third liner, so he SHOULD be better than Domi and Fitzgerald.

Kilger is a border-line NHL player IMHO.

Antropov and Ponikarovsky haven't had enough playoff experience to pass accurate judgement.

However, YOUR point still stands. Only a foolish Leaf fan would say that Varada is nothing but a "goon".

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varada was doing exactly what domi did to hossa earlier and going for the "big hit" on the other teams best player

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Didn't Sundin say it wasn't a dirty hit?

And didn't Hossa say there was nothing wrong with Domi's hit on him?(some suggested it was hitting from behind)

If that's the case, is there really anything to talk about any more from those hits?

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04-12-2004, 09:10 AM
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It was clean.

Varada's knees were straight the entire time, including the 5 or so seconds leading up to the collision, and Sundin just couldn't get out of the way in time.

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Didn't Sundin say it wasn't a dirty hit?
That wouldnt surprise me, Sundin actually has a balanced outlook on Leafs games, he will accept they are not good enough when they lose instead of mindlessly whining about illegal hits and biased refs like Quinn, Domi etc.

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