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11-01-2009, 12:25 PM
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Top 6 Callup?

With the firepower the Wings have lost on the top 2 or 3 lines, might it be a good idea to call up someone with a little more offensive punch? Helm, Abdelkader, Eaves, May, etc are all 3rd/4th line guys. Leino has been benched for laziness/ineffective play. Williams is, well ...

Do you suppose they have considered calling up Hat Trick, McGrath, or another player that might be more capable of putting up some points and playing a scoring role? Could it hurt at this point?

Homer is playing great, but he's got more than twice as many goals as the next guy and when their next 2 top goal scorers are a 3rd pairing rookie defenseman and a 37 year old PK specialist, seems like they could use some more punch up front.

Just thought I would throw that out there and get some opinions.

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11-01-2009, 12:56 PM
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I don't think we need to call up anyone just yet, our last 3 games we have been able to score, and if D and Z can actually start appearing on the scoresheet on the goal side of things, I think we will be ok for now. Hopefully sitting out a game is the wake up call that Leino needs as well to start being a bit more productive offensively

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With the firepower the Wings have lost on the top 2 or 3 lines, might it be a good idea to call up someone with a little more offensive punch? Helm, Abdelkader, Eaves, May, etc are all 3rd/4th line guys. Leino has been benched for laziness/ineffective play. Williams is, well ...

Do you suppose they have considered calling up Hat Trick, McGrath, or another player that might be more capable of putting up some points and playing a scoring role? Could it hurt at this point?

Homer is playing great, but he's got more than twice as many goals as the next guy and when their next 2 top goal scorers are a 3rd pairing rookie defenseman and a 37 year old PK specialist, seems like they could use some more punch up front.

Just thought I would throw that out there and get some opinions.
Because you think that a call-up can provide instant offence when guys who already on the team (Leino, Helm, Eaves and Williams) can’t play in the top 6.

What makes you think Hat Trick, McGrath can? They didn't even made the team.


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11-01-2009, 01:31 PM
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I honestly do think they need to call up some offensive talent. Newberry could be a decent call-up, but something should be considered by Holland.

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Ritola has been playing well, as has Tatar, though I don't think there's any way in hell they call up Tatar.

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Babcock already stated that there will be no call-ups, they will fill there roster from the player already there abby, eaves, helm, drapes, malts etc. Plus, who would we call up in the first place.... I don't think I could name one player that could make any substantial difference to this team right now to begin with.

Mursak, Tatar, Ritola, Newberry none of these players would do any thing of signifigance and really aren't good enough in the first place(Newberry) or aren't ready for the big show yet(Mursak,Tatar,Ritola). And considering how we played last night, I dont think any changes need to be made anyway.

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I really believe Eaves has 20 goals in him with the right ice time. I say give him a top 6 spot.

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I thought Eaves played better last night,but I've been a little disappointed overall. Hopefully last night was an indicator of things to come.

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I thought Eaves played better last night,but I've been a little disappointed overall. Hopefully last night was an indicator of things to come.
You've been disappointed overall? Hes played 6 games. The first 3 of 4 games, he got less than 10 minutes a game in a defensive role. The last two games, hes gotten an average of 13 minutes, has 2 points, and is +4.

Eaves is just another victim of Babcock's favoritism. Babcock expects these guys to make an impact with 7 minutes a game and gets pissed when they don't. He rarely gives certain guys the benefit of the doubt while he lets others waste chance after chance. Reminds me how he gave Hudler all of 1.5 games to prove he belonged on the top line and demoted him after about 20 minutes of game time. He benches Helm for giving nothing but energy, but takes 11 games to bench Leino for giving nothing period, with a ton of chances to do so.

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I really believe Eaves has 20 goals in him with the right ice time. I say give him a top 6 spot.
I tend to agree with this, but he has to get the chance. Hes not going to show a ton of offensive prowess in a defensive role. I'd like to see Eaves get a few games on the 2nd line with Cleary on the 3rd line. Clearys another one of those guys who hasn't done nearly enough despite the chances hes given - 18:30 minutes a night, 3:30 on the PP, and 5 points in 12 games? If Babcock wants to handle things in an egalitarian fashion, the Cleary would be next in line for demotions or riding the pine.

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Eaves is the next Maltby in my eyes, a guy that brings energy and plays a grinding role, don't get your hopes up if you're expecting him to be a top-6 player cause he ain't, maybe he'll have a career year or two but for most part, I expect him to be between 30-40 points kind of player at best.

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I really believe Eaves has 20 goals in him with the right ice time. I say give him a top 6 spot.
I think so too.. He scored 20 goals as a rookie in just 58 games.. No reason to think he cant do it again..

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I'd like to see McGrath get a shot. He's on a one yr contract, give him a shot so we can fish or cut bait with the kid.

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I'd like to see McGrath get a shot. He's on a one yr contract, give him a shot so we can fish or cut bait with the kid.
Fish or "cut bait" with McGrath? You know the Griffins do need players, right? He doesn't have to make the NHL to be a member of the organization...

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Fish or "cut bait" with McGrath? You know the Griffins do need players, right? He doesn't have to make the NHL to be a member of the organization...
Wow...the Griffs need players?!

Given there is a max number of contracts a team can sign it would be good to know if this is a guy who is a real prospect, with a real shot at making the big club before the year is out and you have to decide on his contract or not. In GR there are prospects on contract and career AHL vets, knowing which he is would make it easier at end of year. If he is a worthy prospect use one of your contracts. If he is not, evaluate him against the multitude of other career AHL vets and use the contract for the guy with the best fit.

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Wow...the Griffs need players?!

Given there is a max number of contracts a team can sign it would be good to know if this is a guy who is a real prospect, with a real shot at making the big club before the year is out and you have to decide on his contract or not. In GR there are prospects on contract and career AHL vets, knowing which he is would make it easier at end of year. If he is a worthy prospect use one of your contracts. If he is not, evaluate him against the multitude of other career AHL vets and use the contract for the guy with the best fit.
Does that matter? No. Its not like he can't be signed to an AHL non-development contract and still be called up. The purpose of development contracts is all a part of NHL-AHL politics - nothing more. The Wings can easily use McGrath on a non-development contract if they're unsure about where he fits in the system. And they sure as hell don't need to call him up to decide whether or not his NHL material. Just look at Oulahen for a recent case.

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Does that matter? No. Its not like he can't be signed to an AHL non-development contract and still be called up. The purpose of development contracts is all a part of NHL-AHL politics - nothing more. The Wings can easily use McGrath on a non-development contract if they're unsure about where he fits in the system. And they sure as hell don't need to call him up to decide whether or not his NHL material. Just look at Oulahen for a recent case.
If I was responsible for the product on the ice in GR and balancing a roster of propsects and vets that both develop and win (which is also important) I would want to make sure that I am spending my dollars on vets as optimally as possible regardless of whether they were originally my draft pick/prospect or someone else's.

Happy to agree to disagree, thanks

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With the firepower the Wings have lost on the top 2 or 3 lines...
Or, how about Datsyuk and Zetterberg.... well... you know... score some goals!!!! That's two very key parts of our top 2 or 3 lines that have fewer goals than either Maltby or Ericsson. Pathetic.

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