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11-01-2009, 09:02 AM
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Deutschland Cup

Any info on this years Deutchland Cup, which countries are participating, rosters, etc. Any webpages? Failed to find any via Google.

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11-01-2009, 09:54 AM
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i'm too lazy to start another rant about the ****** german federation.

november 6th:
15:30 SUI-SVK
19:15 GER-USA

november 7th:
16:00 SUI-USA
19:45 SVK-GER

november 8th:
13:30 GER-SUI
17:00 USA-SVK

the only roster i've seen yet is the US one:
http://www.usahockey.com/Template_Us...1_02&id=272640

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11-01-2009, 10:45 AM
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Thanks Zecke. So USA replaces Canada. Leggio, Collins, Clarke for team USA? Well, I guess those were the best choices...Neat to see Damon's name on the list, guy has kept up the scoring in DEL (eventhough I doubted it).

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Slovak and Swiss rosters

Switzerland Roster
Goalies:
Gerber Martin (Atlant Mytischtschi, RUS)
Rüeger Ronnie (Kloten Flyers).

Defense:
Bezina Goran (Genéve-Servette HC)
Blindenbacher Severin (Färjestads BK, SWE)
Diaz Rafael (EV Zug)
Du Bois Félicien (Kloten Flyers)
Gerber Beat (SC Bern)
Gobbi John (Genève-Servette HC)
Josi Roman (SC Bern)
Seger Mathias (ZSC Lions)
Von Gunten Patrick (Kloten Flyers)

Forwards:
Camichel Duri (EV Zug)
Déruns Thomas (Genève-Servette HC)
DiPietro Paul (EV Zug)
Domenichelli Hnat (HC Lugano)
Gardner Ryan (ZSC Lions)
Guggisberg Peter (HC Davos)
Jeannin Sandy (HC Fribourg-Gottéron)
Lemm Romano (HC Lugano)
Monnet Thibaut (ZSC Lions)
Paterlini Thierry (Rapperwil-Jona Lakers)
Plüss Martin (SC Bern)
Reichert Marc (SC Bern)
Romy Kevin (HC Lugano)
Rüthemann Ivo (SC Bern)

SVK Roster:
Goalies:
Branislav Konrád 10/10/1987 (Slovan Bratislava/SVK)
Rastislav Staňa 1/10/1980 (Severstaľ Čerepovec/KHL)

Defense:
Ivan Baranka 5/19/1985 (Spartak Moskva/KHL)
Peter Frühauf 8/15/1982 (HC 05 Banská Bystrica/SVK)
Dominik Graňák 6/11/1983 (Rögle BK/SWE)
Richard Lintner 11/15/1977 (Dinamo Minsk/KHL)
TomᚠSlovák 04/06/1983 (Avtomobilist Jekaterinburg/KHL)
Peter Smrek 02/16/1979 (Severstaľ Čerepovec/KHL)
Richard Stehlík 06/22/1984 (HC Vítkovice Steel/CZE)
Ivan Švarný 10/30/1984 (Benzina Litvínov/CZE)

Forwards:
Marek Bartánus 2/13/1987 (MHk 32 Liptovský Mikuláš/SVK)
TomᚠBulík 8/27/1985 (HC 05 Banská Bystrica/SVK)
Ivan Čiernik 10/30/1977 (Kolner Haie(GER)
Stanislav Gron 10/28/1978 (HC Košice/SVK)
Marcel Hossa 10/2/1981 (Dinamo Riga/KHL)
Rudolf Huna 5/27/1980 (HC Košice/SVK)
Richard Huna 3/9/1985 (HC Slovan Bratislava/SVK)
Dávid Skokan 12/6/1988 (Slovan Bratislava/SVK)
Roman Kukumberg 4/8/1980 (Lada Togliatti/KHL)
Michal Macho 1/17/1982 (BK Mladá Boleslav/CZE)
Branko Radivojevič 11/24/1980 (Spartak Moskva/KHL)
Štefan Ružička 2/17/1985 (Spartak Moskva/KHL)
Rastislav Špirko 6/21/1984 (HC Eaton Pardubice/CZE)
Juraj Štefanka /21/1976 (HC Vítkovice Steel/CZE)
Marek Zagrapan 12/6/1986 (Severstaľ Čerepovec/KHL)

Another joke of a roster from Filc, I guess I shouldn´t be surprised it has become a speciality of his in the last year.:sarcasm:

German roster should be released tomorrow according to the German federations website. Also Germany´s game will be televised on DSF against USA and SVK, against SUI will be on Bayernische Fernsehen. Slovak games will be televised on STV3, however not live.

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11-01-2009, 03:19 PM
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Btw,Cicarelli, you´re missing something in the thread title, it s Deutschland Cup.

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11-02-2009, 10:10 AM
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German roster:

Goal:
Dennis Endras (Augsburger Panther)
Dimitri Pätzold (ERC Ingolstadt)
Rob Zepp (Eisbären Berlin)

Defense:
Michael Bakos (ERC Ingolstadt)
Sven Butenschön (Adler Mannheim)
Jakub Ficenec (ERC Ingolstadt)
Jason Holland (Düsseldorfer EG)
Korbinian Holzer (Düsseldorfer EG)
Moritz Müller (Kölner Haie)
Sebastian Osterloh (Frankfurt Lions)
Andre Reiss (Hannover Scorpions)
Chris Schmidt (Iserlohn Roosters)

Offense:
Sven Felski (Eisbären Berlin)
Thomas Greilinger (ERC Ingolstadt)
Patrick Hager (Krefeld Pinguine)
Thomas Holzmann (Kassel Huskies)
Kai Hospelt (EHC Wolfsburg)
Marcus Kink (Adler Mannheim)
Manuel Klinge (Kassel Huskies)
Marcel Müller (Kölner Haie)
Travis James Mulock (Eisbären Berlin)
Andre Rankel (Eisbären Berlin)
Patrick Reimer (Düsseldorfer EG)
Yannic Seidenberg (Adler Mannheim)
John Tripp (Hamburg Freezers)
Michael Wolf (Iserlohn Roosters)

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11-04-2009, 09:59 AM
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USA roster

GOALTENDERS (2)
1 David Leggio
30 Jean-Marc Pelletier

DEFENSEMEN (8)
7 Alex Brooks
4 Charlie Cook
6 J.D. Forrest
5 Tim Hambly
3 Andy Hedlund
22 Jon Insana
9 Kyle Klubertanz
21 Lee Sweatt

FORWARDS (12)
20 Bates Battaglia
16 Noah Clarke
10 Chris Collins
11 Derek Damon
23 Brett Engelhardt
14 P.J. Fenton
19 Jeff Hamilton
18 Josh Langfeld
17 Eric Meloche
24 Justin Morrison
15 Joe Motzko
12 Mike Radja

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changes to Slovak roster:
Michal Sersen (HC Slovan Bratislava/SVK) replaces Peter Smrek
Ľubomír Vaic (HC Slovan Bratislava/SVK) replaces Branko Radivojevič
Milan Bartovič (HC Liberec/CZE) replaces Stanislav Gron

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11-08-2009, 06:21 AM
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The results so far:

friday:
Switzerland : Slovakia – 3:2 (1:1, 1:0, 1:1)
Germany : USA – 2:3 (0:1, 2:1, 0:0, 0:0, 0:1)

saturday:
Switzerland : USA – 2:3 (0:1, 2:0, 0:1, 0:0, 0.1)
Slovakia : Germany – 1:2 (0:0, 1:0, 0:1, 0:0, 0:1)


It's all B-teams (Germany for example is missing there 3 best centers in Ullmann, Hackert and Alex Barta)
The public media in Germany doesn't really take notice. It's hard to find reliable stats as they are wrong even on the DEB homepage.
Average attandence for Germanys games seems to be around 5500.

Today is the last matchday. It's only televised on a regional TV channel today and only the last third of the Germany-Switzerland game though. DSF is televising motorsport races from 1 to 5 pm.

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It's all B-teams (Germany for example is missing there 3 best centers in Ullmann, Hackert and Alex Barta)
i don't miss hackert at all. ullmann and barta will hopefully be ready for vancouver, but hackert...i hope not.

the team looks ok so far. much better than at the WC. but they really need scoring. and i'm not sure wolf belongs to the national team. he's a great DELer, but he someone forgets how to score for germany. and while he's good all around, we have better grinders and defensive players.

in general i enjoy mulock and greilinger. both create a lot of chances. it's pretty nice to see that greilinger is back and having his best years ahead. such a skilled player.

oh and why exactly is bakos still with the national team? what else than penalty minutes does he add to the team? ok, a brutal mistake here and there, but what else?

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It's a bit OT in this particular topic, but does anyone have an idea why on earth Justin Morrison scored so poorly in the DEL last season? I mean the guy is a beast, probably one of the most well rounded players in SM-liiga (and seems to do well in the Deutschland Cup too), as far as I know he didn't have any injuries, it's speculated that he "didn't take DEL seriously" and thought he was too good for the league and therefore didn't put any effort in his game while in Germany...Any other thoughts? This got me thinking becose guys way inferior like Damon, Collins and Tenute are putting considarably better stats in DEL than Morrison did.

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It's a bit OT in this particular topic, but does anyone have an idea why on earth Justin Morrison scored so poorly in the DEL last season? I mean the guy is a beast, probably one of the most well rounded players in SM-liiga (and seems to do well in the Deutschland Cup too), as far as I know he didn't have any injuries, it's speculated that he "didn't take DEL seriously" and thought he was too good for the league and therefore didn't put any effort in his game while in Germany...Any other thoughts? This got me thinking becose guys way inferior like Damon, Collins and Tenute are putting considarably better stats in DEL than Morrison did.
My explanation would be that a more skilled and maybe more professional environment than what the Hamburg Freezers could offer suits him better.

I don't think it was the DEL that he didn't take seriously. Maybe it was just Hamburg.

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He played for Hamburg, that is reason enough

Morrison came in as additional foreigner when Brad Smyth went down, at least I think that's how it went. Apart from the Fortier-Barta-Aab line, no one could generate much offense, at least not consistently. The team wasn't playing well, playing to complicated, losing energy in endless board battles without getting close to the net. Maybe it just didn't fit his style to well, but Morrison didn't do much, that's why he had to sit out in the playoffs, when all foreigners were healthy again.

He wasn't like Peter Sarno, who had the skill, had already shown it the season before, but couldn't get anything done. Morrison simply didn't show anything that would suggest that he was good enough to help the team.

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Define professional environment, Hamburg is part of the Anschütz-group, has an awesome arena and close to perfect training facilities, it doesn't get much more professional than that.


Germany beats Switzerland 5-1, now that's a surprise. If Team USA loses against Slovakia, Germany actually wins the Cup.

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Define professional environment, Hamburg is part of the Anschütz-group, has an awesome arena and close to perfect training facilities, it doesn't get much more professional than that.
I agree the framework is probably pretty good. With "professional environment" I was referring to psychological factors like "giving 100% for your club" or "identifying with the team". For me that's part of professionalism in sports. "Professional environment" might be a poor choice of words for what I was referring to.

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Define professional environment, Hamburg is part of the Anschütz-group, has an awesome arena and close to perfect training facilities, it doesn't get much more professional than that.


Germany beats Switzerland 5-1, now that's a surprise. If Team USA loses against Slovakia, Germany actually wins the Cup.
That part beings so very likely....

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So, Slovakia indeed won it with 3-2 SO after being down 0-2. As the result Germany won the Deutschland Cup, big surprise i think because the opponent teams, especially Switzerland and Slovakia had really good players in their rosters.

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So, Slovakia indeed won it with 3-2 SO after being down 0-2. As the result Germany won the Deutschland Cup, big surprise i think because the opponent teams, especially Switzerland and Slovakia had really good players in their rosters.
Doesn´t mean anything. Last game Slovakia won was the 4:3 against Hungary scoring the winning goal 15 seconds before the end of the period. Poor coaching, poor selection of players, who play absolutely nothing in the NT. Plus we were missing a few important Euro players- all from NLA- Bartčeko, Sejna, Kolník and Zedník, Stumpel from the KHL. But we´d probably lose the games anyway even if Stastny and Bondra would unretire and suit up we´d finish 4th.

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Does anyone know why Pelletier was pulled midway through the Slovakia game? I can't find anything about it, but I have to assume that he got hurt given that he had stopped 18 of 19 shots.

Either way, Pelts was named goaltender of the tournament.

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I guess the backup was supposed to get a few minutes as well. It's not exactly an important tournament, it would be kind of unfair to invite a goalie and then not use him at all.

Similar to Germany, where all three goalies started a game.

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I guess the backup was supposed to get a few minutes as well. It's not exactly an important tournament, it would be kind of unfair to invite a goalie and then not use him at all.

Similar to Germany, where all three goalies started a game.
Well, the other goalie did play in the second game. Seems to me with a chance to win a tournament you don't pull a netminder who stopped 18 of 19 shots regardless of how important it may or may not be.

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Just want to know who now leads in the league?

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@MrSports: Looks like you're in the wrong thread. Berlin leads the DEL in front of Wolfsburg on rank 2 and Düsseldorf on rank 3.

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