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11-04-2009, 01:54 PM
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Downtown St Louis has a casino and the ONLY place people go to bars downtown is by the casino, the bars will be just fine. Trust me.

I am really shocked at all the opposition to Issue 3. I live in the Arena District and think it's a slam-dunk winner.
Well, in my case if I explained why I didn't want it Samkow would set my tail on fire for it, if you didn't get me first.

I can live with it if it helps boost the CBJ's finances, though. I'd think of it as sort of a revised version of the "sin tax".

...wait, that didn't go over too well either, did it?


I'd offer a hint in this fashion, but I doubt obfuscation permits violation of site rules, so I'll just say "PM me if you want the rant".

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11-04-2009, 01:58 PM
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I am not against gambling, or casinos. I just thought that this particular deal was not a good one. Writing these 2 companies into our State Constitution smacks of corruption. A little over the top to ensure they get what they want, but they bought it, fair and square.

Also this impacts the Blue Jackets in various ways.*






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I agree this wasn't perfect, but I thought it was time to go for it. I, however, would support some of the changes already being proposed.

I think this will help the CBJ. More potential for corporate sponsorship, and people coming into the city that might want to check out a game, or want to make it a 2-fer. Gambling and a CBJ game.

I don't think it will hurt the rest of the district at all. There are still other things to do there that people will be attending, and stopping at other watering holes, and restaurants.

I have been to Vegas twice, and we ate more at restaurants outside the casinos then in them.

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11-04-2009, 02:01 PM
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I agree this wasn't perfect, but I thought it was time to go for it. I, however, would support some of the changes already being proposed.
This is the way I feel, too, Doc.

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11-04-2009, 02:21 PM
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I personally feel that attendance for the games will increase. I can see myself making it down to the arena district for a game and then gambling afterwards more often. You will probably also have those people who have been gambling that want to take a break and go check out a game for a break in gambling. I see this as a win.

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11-04-2009, 02:30 PM
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I think it should increase more foot traffic around the arena, which would mean people might take their winnings and spend a nice evening watching the Blue Jackets.

The more reason people have to go downtown Columbus, the more good it can do for downtown Columbus. Now, whether or not this casino is going to be any good, who knows...I wish Gilbert got the Columbus one, because he seems dedicated to bringing in a REAL casino, not a trashy Penn casino...but alas, it'll still bring in income.

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11-04-2009, 03:12 PM
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Downtown St Louis has a casino and the ONLY place people go to bars downtown is by the casino, the bars will be just fine. Trust me.

I am really shocked at all the opposition to Issue 3. I live in the Arena District and think it's a slam-dunk winner.
This.

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11-04-2009, 03:13 PM
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I agree this wasn't perfect, but I thought it was time to go for it. I, however, would support some of the changes already being proposed.

I think this will help the CBJ. More potential for corporate sponsorship, and people coming into the city that might want to check out a game, or want to make it a 2-fer. Gambling and a CBJ game.

I don't think it will hurt the rest of the district at all. There are still other things to do there that people will be attending, and stopping at other watering holes, and restaurants.

I have been to Vegas twice, and we ate more at restaurants outside the casinos then in them.
We don't agree often, Doc, but I agree 100% with everything you've posted here.

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11-04-2009, 03:25 PM
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Instead of going to Wheeling, eating at Golden Chopsticks, catching a Nailers game, and hitting the casino... I can just go downtown, hit the Rbar, eat at Teds, catch the CBJ, and hit the casino.

Seems good to me.

More reasons for people to be downtown, the better.

Working at the shop downtown, a lot of people coming in for corporate events at the convention center ALWAYS complain that there is nothing to do downtown when they wanna get out of thier hotel... as do people who travel and visit for OSU games and other stuff.

I expect this to help the CBJ in awareness, ticket sales, etc.

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11-04-2009, 03:25 PM
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I bet this works out in the long run.

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11-04-2009, 03:27 PM
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As long as they have Let it Ride and the Wheel Of Fortune slots, im happy

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11-04-2009, 03:30 PM
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ughh terrible idea to put a casino in columbus. People don't realize that a casino is a one dimensional market. It cannot advance with the times and I guarantee within twenty years (assuming the casino is built in the arena district) that part of the city will become a ghetto.
Also, with such high unemployment rates in Columbus who is going to be able to afford to gamble their money away? All of our surrounding states already have casino's so we wont be drawing revenue from neighboring states, and if it's true we put up four in ohio, then we will certainly be looking at a money vacuum.

This move can only hurt the Blue Jackets and the sparkling image of the arena district, in a decade things will be headed down hill.
This might be the dumbest thing I have ever read.

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ughh terrible idea to put a casino in columbus. People don't realize that a casino is a one dimensional market. It cannot advance with the times and I guarantee within twenty years (assuming the casino is built in the arena district) that part of the city will become a ghetto.
Also, with such high unemployment rates in Columbus who is going to be able to afford to gamble their money away? All of our surrounding states already have casino's so we wont be drawing revenue from neighboring states, and if it's true we put up four in ohio, then we will certainly be looking at a money vacuum.

This move can only hurt the Blue Jackets and the sparkling image of the arena district, in a decade things will be headed down hill.
tell that to Vegas

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11-04-2009, 03:36 PM
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Personally I think this was long overdue. I wanted them to demolish City Center and do this about 5 years ago. Every great city in America should have a great casino to attract people to. Beats Foot Locker anyhow. I just hope they don't cheap out on the place. Keep it classy and the Arena District will be the Mecca of downtown for years. Good for Columbus and good for the Blue Jackets.

Now if there was just a train to take me down there quicker....

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11-04-2009, 03:41 PM
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Downtown St Louis has a casino and the ONLY place people go to bars downtown is by the casino, the bars will be just fine. Trust me.

I am really shocked at all the opposition to Issue 3. I live in the Arena District and think it's a slam-dunk winner.

I have to agree.

1. I think it will increase out of town ticket sales(come to Columbus for a Hockey game friday night, stay for the weekend to gamble/party).

2. Gambling and Hockey aren't really competitors(despite both being "entertainment") so I don't see ticket sales taking a hit because people would rather gamble that $50 rather than buy a game ticket(if anything, people will do both).

3. The CBJ should be proactively approaching Penn about some cross promotional oppurtunities. The Casino advertises in the Arena, and in turn comps hockey tickets to frequent guests for example.

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11-04-2009, 03:58 PM
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I'm just glad that I won't have to drive 2 hours just to play some black jack. It's not gonna stop me from buying CBJ tickets and playing in the casino. If anything, it's going to have me down there more. I really only go downtown to go to Jackets games. I think it could be a good idea because people start winning, feelin good, and buy some Jackets tickets.

Also, I think this will help the Arena District during off season for the Jackets. I don't suppose there is much foot traffic and stuff downtown during the spring/summer months. This will help drive up traffic and I think that right there will benefit the shops and restauraunts downtown. It will give people a reason to go down there no matter the season, and the Blue Line is still open during the summer too

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What they should do is rig all of the casino games so that everyone wins. Then they'll be like "hey I can afford food at Nationwide now, maybe I'll treat myself to a game."

it's all part of Howson's plan.

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Also, I think this will help the Arena District during off season for the Jackets. I don't suppose there is much foot traffic and stuff downtown during the spring/summer months. This will help drive up traffic and I think that right there will benefit the shops and restauraunts downtown. It will give people a reason to go down there no matter the season, and the Blue Line is still open during the summer too
The Clippers/Huntington Park were a big draw this past spring/summer and should be for years to come. The casino will be right next door. Should be hopping in the Arena District almost every night of the year.

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Just west of the buggy works condos. That is about three blocks west of Neil Ave on Nationwide, so very close to the arena.
Damn, there goes my free parking for the Jackets' games.

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Has there been any speculation about the name? Assuming the casino will do some sponsorship with the CBJ I'd like to know who I'll be annoyed by during games. Looking at the Penn National site it doesn't look like anything good. Probably Argosy or Hollywood. Yuck.
The Jackets Royale.

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I'm not sure what the affect will be. On one hand more people will be in the district and that may benefit everyone. On the other hand people rarely visit a casino and walk out with as much money then they left with. I wonder how many people will gamble away their ticket money.

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I can’t believe some people are still blithering about how the area is supposedly going to become a hellhole now. This is one of the best things that has happened to Columbus since the Jackets. If you don't think casinos are moral, don't go in one. But don't try to tell me this will create compulsive gamblers, because we already have horse tracks, the lottery and online gambling. And don't give me that crap about how the Arena District is going to turn into some Atlantic City backalley; St. Louis, Montreal, Miami and many other respectable cities have casinos. It's called security and the police... This does nothing but bring tourism dollars into the city, and add another big-city entertainment option. I guess we want to outlaw the brothel and the saloon, while we're at it? They bring in a seedy element from time to time, right? That means strip clubs and bars, by the way, but since some people seem to be stuck in the 1920’s….

I actually think it will HELP the Jackets immensely – there’s more incentive for people to come down to the game if they can make a night out of it by going to the casino/bars afterwards. There’s also more incentive for visiting fans to make road trips to Columbus. Of course, NOTHING will help or hurt attendance as much as how the team is doing. A casino won't change that.

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I'm not sure what the affect will be. On one hand more people will be in the district and that may benefit everyone. On the other hand people rarely visit a casino and walk out with as much money then they left with. I wonder how many people will gamble away their ticket money.
But how many people come downtown without their tickets already in their pocket.

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But how many people come downtown without their tickets already in their pocket.
This, and if you are going to the casino to supplement your income, then you probably werent buying sporting tickets to begin with.

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It's interesting, basically Cleveland, Cincinnati, and their immediately surrounding counties went bigtime for the casinos. Pretty much the rest of the state, Columbus included, opposed it. Delaware county was over 2-1 against.

I voted against the measure because it doesn't belong in the constitution. I'd rather not have a casino downtown, either.

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I am moving from Columbus to Kentucky in less than a month. This casino is DEFINITELY a good thing for me, and I will be going to more jackets games because of it. Making the trip up to Columbus sounds a lot better when it is Jackets+poker rather than just Jackets. Coming up for a couple days for back to back jackets games and filling the time between in the casino sounds like a good trip to me!

/they are having poker, right?

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