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11-05-2009, 12:34 PM
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There are no plans to build a hotel at the casino.
If correct, this, to me, tells the entire tale of WHO the casino is aimed at.

Without a hotel, it's going to be less of a draw as an out-of-towner casino destination. Who wants to walk from the blackjack table at 3 in the morning to their hotel two blocks away and have to encounter whatever horrors await on the wild streets of the big city? Hyperbolic panic-switch thinking, of course, but you get the drift. And in the winter when it's both raining and snowing simultaneously?

The draw is going to be hobbyist gamblers who do it the way others might sit back after work and watch TV. So I have to agree with Arace's assessment that it will be people who come to the casino, gamble, eat in the casino and then leave. The impact on the district will likely be a slight uptick in year-round business but potentially little else. All in all, it's likely to be no more or less important to the district than the opening of Fort Rapids was to Eastland.

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There's one thing you are forgetting about poker and the reason poker rooms have become money makers--tournaments. Poker tournaments are where the house can make serious money. The WSOP satellites and other weekend money tournaments are where poker rooms pay off. The funny thing is, for the player tourneys are often a horrible way to get your money's worth. Because of their structure (number or players, how quickly blinds go up, etc.) they usually rely more on luck than skill. This is why you often see odd results even at the WSOP.
True, but you're talking about a hand full of events a year at (mostly) large, resort style casinos. Smaller casino's don't usually have poker rooms or they're no more than 4 tables to limit their losses.

Most of the casino's on Fremont St in Las Vegas, with the exception of Binions, are like this. If they have poker rooms at all, they're very small and usually only have a couple tables active during peak times. It's the Caesars Palace's , Mandalay Bay's, and Harrah's of the gaming world that can afford to have a poker room open most of the day. From the sounds of it, this casino may even be smaller than some of the casino's on Fremont St so the justification of a poker room is probably not there.

If there's ever a possibility of a major tournament coming to the casino then they may add a poker room. However, they're now competing with 3 other casino's in the state as well as more established casino's in the neighboring states. So the probability of that happening is low.

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True, but you're talking about a hand full of events a year at (mostly) large, resort style casinos. Smaller casino's don't usually have poker rooms or they're no more than 4 tables to limit their losses.

Most of the casino's on Fremont St in Las Vegas, with the exception of Binions, are like this. If they have poker rooms at all, they're very small and usually only have a couple tables active during peak times. It's the Caesars Palace's , Mandalay Bay's, and Harrah's of the gaming world that can afford to have a poker room open most of the day. From the sounds of it, this casino may even be smaller than some of the casino's on Fremont St so the justification of a poker room is probably not there.

If there's ever a possibility of a major tournament coming to the casino then they may add a poker room. However, they're now competing with 3 other casino's in the state as well as more established casino's in the neighboring states. So the probability of that happening is low.
Again, I tend to play in the Inland Empire out here at Indian casinos, one of which, Pechanga, has a very large poker room. Commerce Casino near LA also has a large poker room--I find that its lower limits and location attract a less savory crowd. I'm told a couple other of the LA area casinos also have fairly sizeable poker rooms (Hawaiian Gardens, the Bicycle Club and Hustler). They tend to have 1-2 tournaments a week and usually a big money or satellite tournament once a month or every-other month.

That said, we're talking about San Diego and LA area which have a lot of people. And poker is very popular with California's large Asian population, something Ohio doesn't have. I can't see Ohio being able to support more than one large poker room as things stand, but I could be wrong. If it happens, I'd expect Gilbert to pull it off in Cleveland before it would happen in Columbus and its probably not something that happens on day 1.

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I don't agree with Arace. I think the more traffic in the district the better for all business. Exposure is half the battle. There will be people who go gambling that will be amazed to see an arena and a stadium on the same block.

The hard core gamblers, yes they will only go to the casino. But many people will go to other parts of the district, especially if they are staying overnight and will probably walk right by, or drive, many of the businesses, to get to their hotel. There are no plans to build a hotel at the casino.

I think the positives of a casino outweigh the negatives. For my whole life, before the CBJ, there was no reason to go downtown after dark. Now this city is growing by huge leaps, I'm for it.
I sent him an email based on similar issues you mentioned. Lets face it, how often does one hear about the droves of people dying to visit Columbus to walk around the Short North or Brewery District? Almost never. I've been down to the Arena District when nothing is going on during the week-it's a ghost town.

The Arena district will be buzzing with activity every day of the year with a Casino down there. I think hockey, baseball, local bars, restaurants and hotels will all benefit. There will be quite a bit of cash coming into the city if it happens, not to mention 2000 jobs.

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I sent him an email based on similar issues you mentioned. Lets face it, how often does one hear about the droves of people dying to visit Columbus to walk around the Short North or Brewery District? Almost never. I've been down to the Arena District when nothing is going on during the week-it's a ghost town.

The Arena district will be buzzing with activity every day of the year with a Casino down there. I think hockey, baseball, local bars, restaurants and hotels will all benefit. There will be quite a bit of cash coming into the city if it happens, not to mention 2000 jobs.
Not to mention that the location of the casino expands the Arena District into what is presently a blighted industrial neighborhood.

I'm sure Nationwide isn't happy to have potential competition for the parking revenue dollar though.

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Ok, why do people think this will bring in tourist dollars? There are (by my count) thirty six other states in the US that have casinos (including us, with the assumption one is built). Here is a list of states IMO that many people would rather gamble their money away to at a casino resort: California, New York, New Jersey, Arizona, Texas, Florida, The Carolina's, Illinois (Chicago) Oregon, and Washington oh and of course lets not forget Las Vegas, Nevada. A majority of tourists in columbus are regional tourist, or neighboring states. Let's be honest, how many times would you hear someone from, say, Idaho go, "C'mon kids pack up your stuff were going to Columbus, Ohio to go to a casino resort yay!!!". It doesn't happen, and having a casino is not something unique to people outside of Ohio. The only unique tourist attraction we have here is Nationwide Arena/ Arena district. This is not going to be the money pump needed to save this team or this city, and if two other cities are going to put up casino's then who the hell would drive two hours or jump on the new Tri C train to gamble in Columbus. According to the US Gov'ts website of Tourism, all but one city in the top 20 cities of tourism (US only) have casinos (the one being Oahu, Hawaii). Why would any tourist wish to travel to columbus, ohio to gamble? I think we are blinded by numbers and we think that building a casino will suddenly solve all financial problems here in Ohio. The CBJ will not benefit from this whatsoever, like pointed out in the thread. A lot of senior citizens go to midwest casinos, not exactly the NHL demographic.

Is there anyway to make this thread into a poll???

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Ok, why do people think this will bring in tourist dollars? There are (by my count) thirty six other states in the US that have casinos (including us, with the assumption one is built). Here is a list of states IMO that many people would rather gamble their money away to at a casino resort: California, New York, New Jersey, Arizona, Texas, Florida, The Carolina's, Illinois (Chicago) Oregon, and Washington oh and of course lets not forget Las Vegas, Nevada. A majority of tourists in columbus are regional tourist, or neighboring states. Let's be honest, how many times would you hear someone from, say, Idaho go, "C'mon kids pack up your stuff were going to Columbus, Ohio to go to a casino resort yay!!!". It doesn't happen, and having a casino is not something unique to people outside of Ohio. The only unique tourist attraction we have here is Nationwide Arena/ Arena district. This is not going to be the money pump needed to save this team or this city, and if two other cities are going to put up casino's then who the hell would drive two hours or jump on the new Tri C train to gamble in Columbus. According to the US Gov'ts website of Tourism, all but one city in the top 20 cities of tourism (US only) have casinos (the one being Oahu, Hawaii). Why would any tourist wish to travel to columbus, ohio to gamble? I think we are blinded by numbers and we think that building a casino will suddenly solve all financial problems here in Ohio. The CBJ will not benefit from this whatsoever, like pointed out in the thread. A lot of senior citizens go to midwest casinos, not exactly the NHL demographic.

Is there anyway to make this thread into a poll???
Before I respond, be it duly noted I voted against the casio. Moving on...

I do agree with your assessment that the casinos will not bring in tourism dollars. What they will do though is keep tourism dollars and wagering dollars that have been going to Indiana, Michigan and West Virginia in Ohio. The money that will eb spent on the slots, blackjack and whatever else would have been sent out of state. Now OH will be getting the tax dollars it was losing in the past. I heard a report this morning that they are predicting Indiana to be the biggest loser with all the casino trips made to their casinos by folks in the Cincinanti/Dayton area. Thos folks are now going to be hitting the local casino vs. driving to Indiana.

I do think it's senseless that they are putting it up right next door to Nationwide Arena. At least the site in Cincinnati is an oversized parking lot not too far from the court house and a fair piece away from the statiums. The Reds and the Bungles, nor the night life which cater to them (which coincidentally is in Northern Kentrucky, NOT Cincinnati) won't really be impacted by the casinos. I really feel sorry for the R-Bar and the other establishments around the arena. I hope the pre-post game crowds that frequent those establishments to bop over to the casino instead.

I will say, coming from a Cincinnatian who has seen his city totally **** up it's stadium/surrounding area management, I have always been impressed with what Columbus has done with the arena district. It is top notch and well thought out.

Good luck up there.

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I really feel sorry for the R-Bar and the other establishments around the arena.
I think of all the arena area bars and restaurants, the R-Bar is the least likely to have people siphoned off because it's a legit hockey bar, so it will likely always draw well during the season because it's part of the pre- and/or post-game ritual for many who are in the district for hockey and not gambling. Non-hockey season, I don't know, but I dount that one particular establishment has anything to worry about with re: the casino.

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The closest casino to Chicago is at least an hour away with traffic

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I voted against Issue 3. I think this will have a marginal impact on the CBJ. Ultimately, the CBJ will live or die by the performance on the ice. If they win, they are going to do well. If they lose, they are going to do poorly.

I believe this casino is going to flop. There is going to be too much competition inside and outside the state. The only consistent customers are going to be coming from Greater Columbus and surrounding areas. There are the casinos currently in Indiana, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Michigan, and Ontario that people from Ohio go to. I really do not see the casinos in PA and WV losing much. The folks along those eastern borders will still go to those casinos before Columbus or Cleveland. You have three other casinos that are guaranteed to be in this state. When things get reworked, who is to say more gaming sites (slots at racetracks?) don't come up? There is only so much of a market out there.

I love Columbus, but we are not a destination city. There is nothing in this city that brings a consistent crowd throughout the year from outlying parts of Ohio and surrounding states. The Clippers and Huntington Park are great, but who other than those few baseball diehards or Indians Superfans are going to come to Columbus to watch a game? Very few if any. The masses are going to go to Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, or Detroit to make a weekend out of their baseball watching. What about OSU football fans? They might get a few, but most of the people in town for games stay around the Campus Area. As far as the CBJ, other than true CBJ fans, what people are going to come to Columbus from towns like Dayton, Zanesville, Mansfield, or Lima to gamble and watch a CBJ game in the dead of winter? Folks travel far away in the winter because of necessity or to go to someplace warm.

I really do feel for the folks in the Arena District and here in Columbus. It has been a lot of hard work getting this thing going and now we are being dictated by people in Cleveland and Cincinnati to put something in we don't want in Columbus. You should have seen the Franklin County precinct map in colors by yes and no that was on the Board of Elections website Election Night. You knew where the Arena District customers lived by looking at it.

On another note, I have been surprised by how laissez faire the NHL has been toward having casinos advertising with them. For example, Wheeling Island has advertised extensively with the CBJ. Can you imagine Wheeling Island or Belterra advertising at NFL, MLB, NBA, or NCAA events? There would be an absolute uproar. Those sporting leagues have all had major issues in their past with gambling that were P.R. disasters. An incident in the NHL would have major ramifications and the media will harp on that advertising issue big.

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I voted against Issue 3. I think this will have a marginal impact on the CBJ. Ultimately, the CBJ will live or die by the performance on the ice. If they win, they are going to do well. If they lose, they are going to do poorly.

I believe this casino is going to flop. There is going to be too much competition inside and outside the state. The only consistent customers are going to be coming from Greater Columbus and surrounding areas. There are the casinos currently in Indiana, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Michigan, and Ontario that people from Ohio go to. I really do not see the casinos in PA and WV losing much. The folks along those eastern borders will still go to those casinos before Columbus or Cleveland. You have three other casinos that are guaranteed to be in this state. When things get reworked, who is to say more gaming sites (slots at racetracks?) don't come up? There is only so much of a market out there.

I love Columbus, but we are not a destination city. There is nothing in this city that brings a consistent crowd throughout the year from outlying parts of Ohio and surrounding states. The Clippers and Huntington Park are great, but who other than those few baseball diehards or Indians Superfans are going to come to Columbus to watch a game? Very few if any. The masses are going to go to Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, or Detroit to make a weekend out of their baseball watching. What about OSU football fans? They might get a few, but most of the people in town for games stay around the Campus Area. As far as the CBJ, other than true CBJ fans, what people are going to come to Columbus from towns like Dayton, Zanesville, Mansfield, or Lima to gamble and watch a CBJ game in the dead of winter? Folks travel far away in the winter because of necessity or to go to someplace warm.

I really do feel for the folks in the Arena District and here in Columbus. It has been a lot of hard work getting this thing going and now we are being dictated by people in Cleveland and Cincinnati to put something in we don't want in Columbus. You should have seen the Franklin County precinct map in colors by yes and no that was on the Board of Elections website Election Night. You knew where the Arena District customers lived by looking at it.

On another note, I have been surprised by how laissez faire the NHL has been toward having casinos advertising with them. For example, Wheeling Island has advertised extensively with the CBJ. Can you imagine Wheeling Island or Belterra advertising at NFL, MLB, NBA, or NCAA events? There would be an absolute uproar. Those sporting leagues have all had major issues in their past with gambling that were P.R. disasters. An incident in the NHL would have major ramifications and the media will harp on that advertising issue big.
bah, anything is better than nothing. It's time for Columbus to step up into the big league of glitter. I hope they build it and I hope it succeeds.

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So it looks like no poker (what I've gathered from this thread). Will there be a sportsbook?

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The casino owners have a vested interest in cooperating/coexisting with both the Jackets organization and the local bars and restaurants. Having the Blue Jackets nearby will help the casino more than it directly helps the Blue Jackets, which, oddly enough, may turn around and benefit the Jackets. It's more likely that one of us will stop in to try our luck at the casino after a game than it is for a casino guest to decide to go see the Jackets on a whim; the casino will have an interest in keeping the Jackets in the area because it keeps us in the area. As well, just because the casino will likely have a number of bars and/or restaurants doesn't mean it will kill business for the existing establishments; in fact, it should bring more people (namely out-of-towners) to the area who will venture out to those establishments to get a feel for the district. The bars and restaurants in the district have enough of their own personality that they should be have no problem attracting customers.

Only time will tell, but I'm of the opinion that this should be looked at as an opportunity.


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Good point about the casino having an interest in keeping the Blue Jackets around. The CBJ pretty much built the Arena District, giving people a good reason to go downtown. I'd bet the house that the casino will recognize this and invest some bucks on the team.

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So it looks like no poker (what I've gathered from this thread). Will there be a sportsbook?
I suspect a sportsbook is unlikely. I seem to recall that very few non-Nevada casinos in the US have sportsbooks.

I'm a bit more optimistic about the possibility of a poker room, though. Looking at Penn National's website, each of the casinos which I checked from the list they manage (I checked 3 or 4) advertised Live Poker.

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A question.

As I didn't know about the "Issue 3" before reading this thread, does it mean if it's passed, Ohio would have same rules with casinos than Nevada? Or...?

If so, I'll book a week vacation to Columbus

(I like casinos a lot. Las Vegas is a very cool place and next october I'll see what's it like in Macau!)

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I really feel sorry for the R-Bar and the other establishments around the arena.
Won't affect the bars one bit.

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Sports gambling only legal in Nevada & the Oregon Lottery has a parlay card for football season.

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A question.

As I didn't know about the "Issue 3" before reading this thread, does it mean if it's passed, Ohio would have same rules with casinos than Nevada? Or...?

If so, I'll book a week vacation to Columbus

(I like casinos a lot. Las Vegas is a very cool place and next october I'll see what's it like in Macau!)

A week in Macau or a week in Columbus? Handyy, how do you make these choices!?

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Before I respond, be it duly noted I voted against the casio. Moving on...
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True, but you're talking about a hand full of events a year at (mostly) large, resort style casinos. Smaller casino's don't usually have poker rooms or they're no more than 4 tables to limit their losses.

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Wheeling Island has 20 tables,and they also have DAILY tournaments.

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I voted against Issue 3. I think this will have a marginal impact on the CBJ. Ultimately, the CBJ will live or die by the performance on the ice. If they win, they are going to do well. If they lose, they are going to do poorly.

I believe this casino is going to flop. There is going to be too much competition inside and outside the state. The only consistent customers are going to be coming from Greater Columbus and surrounding areas. There are the casinos currently in Indiana, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Michigan, and Ontario that people from Ohio go to. I really do not see the casinos in PA and WV losing much. The folks along those eastern borders will still go to those casinos before Columbus or Cleveland. You have three other casinos that are guaranteed to be in this state. When things get reworked, who is to say more gaming sites (slots at racetracks?) don't come up? There is only so much of a market out there.

I love Columbus, but we are not a destination city. There is nothing in this city that brings a consistent crowd throughout the year from outlying parts of Ohio and surrounding states. The Clippers and Huntington Park are great, but who other than those few baseball diehards or Indians Superfans are going to come to Columbus to watch a game? Very few if any. The masses are going to go to Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, or Detroit to make a weekend out of their baseball watching. What about OSU football fans? They might get a few, but most of the people in town for games stay around the Campus Area. As far as the CBJ, other than true CBJ fans, what people are going to come to Columbus from towns like Dayton, Zanesville, Mansfield, or Lima to gamble and watch a CBJ game in the dead of winter? Folks travel far away in the winter because of necessity or to go to someplace warm.

I really do feel for the folks in the Arena District and here in Columbus. It has been a lot of hard work getting this thing going and now we are being dictated by people in Cleveland and Cincinnati to put something in we don't want in Columbus. You should have seen the Franklin County precinct map in colors by yes and no that was on the Board of Elections website Election Night. You knew where the Arena District customers lived by looking at it.

On another note, I have been surprised by how laissez faire the NHL has been toward having casinos advertising with them. For example, Wheeling Island has advertised extensively with the CBJ. Can you imagine Wheeling Island or Belterra advertising at NFL, MLB, NBA, or NCAA events? There would be an absolute uproar. Those sporting leagues have all had major issues in their past with gambling that were P.R. disasters. An incident in the NHL would have major ramifications and the media will harp on that advertising issue big.
This!

Seriously idk why people are buying into the "tourist dollar" fallacy. I love my city but i will be honest, no one would come all this way just to bet there hard earned money. This move is definitely a extreme risk/high reward. Scott Howson is the king of low risk/high reward... in turn Scott Howson for Governor of Ohio! lol

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Agree that Columbus is'nt going to become a vacation destination, but having a casino will be another form of entertainment to:

-people already in town for convention or sporting event

-people coming from short distance

-people already in the district for game, movie etc.

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Seriously idk why people are buying into the "tourist dollar" fallacy. I love my city but i will be honest, no one would come all this way just to bet there hard earned money.
Ever been to Wheeling? Chester, WVa? If people will travel to those places to bet, then they'll travel here. I probably won't go more than once or twice, mostly out of curiosity, but I think there are quite of few folks who will. Seems to me that the negative impact of the casino is being overblown. For that matter, so is the positive! It's really too early to tell how it will all play out. Much depends on how it's integrated into the District and what connections are made with the other activities in the area.

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