Not to mention they're having a serious issue with the Pittsburgh power play currently as Crosby and Malkin both want to play the same spot. Guess were Vinny and Gaborik like to play?
So you would not take Malkin if we could get him either? (j/k)
They are different playing types, I am pretty sure we wouldn't have a problem on the PP. Gabby is very mobile on the PP. Sometimes you see him at the right circle, sometimes at the left point (while Kotalik drops deep).
And I don't even remotely think its a problem too "only" play a star on a 2nd line. Its all about backing up that player. If you have 5 players who needs a lot of puck and a lot of attention -- it can be a problem. But like Colorado had Sakic/Forsberg on the 2nd line basically for ever, Detroit had Feds/Yzerman.
Would Lecav get the best possible linemates on our 2nd line? No, but like neither do Malkin or Crosby.
So you would not take Malkin if we could get him either? (j/k)
They are different playing types, I am pretty sure we wouldn't have a problem on the PP. Gabby is very mobile on the PP. Sometimes you see him at the right circle, sometimes at the left point (while Kotalik drops deep).
And I don't even remotely think its a problem too "only" play a star on a 2nd line. Its all about backing up that player. If you have 5 players who needs a lot of puck and a lot of attention -- it can be a problem. But like Colorado had Sakic/Forsberg on the 2nd line basically for ever, Detroit had Feds/Yzerman.
Would Lecav get the best possible linemates on our 2nd line? No, but like neither do Malkin or Crosby.
Just because a player rotates around on the PP doesn't mean he'd want to be positioned on the other side.
Those Colorado and Detroit teams had much more talent than ours. Really difficult to use them as an example. Malkin has also had great chemistry with his linemates the last couple years. Sykora, Staal, Fedetenko, etc.
Neither one of us can prove whether or not it will work, but I'll continue to remain skeptical of committing to that kind of contract.
If he came cheap and the Rangers could move Redden or Drury with it then I am all for it. Rozsival to me can be moved in the offseason so one of the other 2 large bad contracts would need to go. I dont see them accepting them.
2. Lecavalier was a 1st line center on a Cup Winner. Drury was playing wing for Foresberg and then 2nd line center in the conference and finals when Peter went down.
3. Vinny is younger than Drury as well as a change of scenery could really be the case to jumpstart him back to 80-90 point caliber.
Lecavalier is 29, Drury was 30 when we signed him, lol.
Lecavalier is never going to be a 85-90 point player on a consistent basis again, if he cant do it with all that talent in Tampa why will he be able to do it here? Especially considering we'd probably break up him and Gaborik, and he wont have anyone like St. Louis at even strength.
Is everyone ignoring the length of Lecavalier's contract or am I the only one that realizes Lecavalier isnt going to be an elite player in about 4 years and then we're stuck with either dead space from buying him out or another crippling contract.
Sigh with the way the Rangers are playing forget about LeCav and just fail the rest of the way for Hall or Seguin....this team ain't going anywhere even if they make the playoffs.
Sigh with the way the Rangers are playing forget about LeCav and just fail the rest of the way for Hall or Seguin....this team ain't going anywhere even if they make the playoffs.
I've seen this so much on this board, and I'm not going off on you but why does everyone capitalize the C in Lecavalier's name? It's not capitalized, never has been.
Vincent Lecavalier could be headed to Broadway and a reunion with John Tortorella, his coach from the 2004 Stanley Cup-champion Tampa Bay Lightning.
A league source said New York Rangers GM Glen Sather — who’s desperate to find an answer to his club’s season-long, goal-scoring struggles — reached out to Lightning counterpart Brian Lawton to spark trade talks.
A second league executive insisted Lecavalier, who had just 11 goals in 46 games this season entering last night’s action — is on the market.
While the centre would have to waive his no-movement clause to be reunited with Tortorella, the talk is the Rangers are willing to offer up a package to kick-start an offence that had scored 120 goals in 47 games.
That whisper is that package would be D Matt Gilroy, D Wade Redden and either C Brandon Dubinsky or RW Ryan Callahan.
When the contract hamstrings the Rangers for infinity,there will be threads calling the Rangers morons for taking on the contract.
No movement clause.
Ranger fans scream about management looking for shortcuts but the fans are just like management.
Hypocrites.
At first people would be happy that Redden is gone and that would last maybe until the middle of next season. Then the Fire Sather chants would start and people would be pissed about VL being here.
Lecavalier is 29, Drury was 30 when we signed him, lol.
Lecavalier is never going to be a 85-90 point player on a consistent basis again, if he cant do it with all that talent in Tampa why will he be able to do it here? Especially considering we'd probably break up him and Gaborik, and he wont have anyone like St. Louis at even strength.
vinny is having an awful year and is on pace for 79 points this season. Like Eric staal, and gomez, he is more a second part of the year player. I also think not making team canada might motivate him to play much better.
If Sather trades Cally, who is one of the only real hockey players on this team ill be very upset.
The common misconception with this team is that they just need scoring and all problems will be solved. Sure, more scoring would improve this team - but they lack the grit it takes to win a championship. That doesnt come in a package like this, especially if you are sending one of the only players who exhibits it back the other way.
How about Stamkos? I'd take him he had a rough start to last season I think a change of scenery might do him well
What is with the Rangers seriously we used to be a team of Oilers cast offs, then Keenan wanted us to be Blackhawks 2.0 and now with Torts here the only names you hear are Lightning players...
How about Stamkos? I'd take him he had a rough start to last season I think a change of scenery might do him well
What is with the Rangers seriously we used to be a team of Oilers cast offs, then Keenan wanted us to be Blackhawks 2.0 and now with Torts here the only names you hear are Lightning players...
How about we become the Rangers.
i heard a stat the other day, that since i think february of last year the only person to have more goals that stamkos is alex ovechkin. Pretty amazing if you think about the league. Kid has serious talent for someone who many doubted after a slow start last year.
i heard a stat the other day, that since i think february of last year the only person to have more goals that stamkos is alex ovechkin. Pretty amazing if you think about the league. Kid has serious talent for someone who many doubted after a slow start last year.
Yeah he is under rated IMO. He will be golden in the future and to think people thought TB was going to trade him last year lol. He has replaced Vinny in only his 2nd year and is turning into a beast.
Yeah he is under rated IMO. He will be golden in the future and to think people thought TB was going to trade him last year lol. He has replaced Vinny in only his 2nd year and is turning into a beast.
Don't forget that the "best hockey mind in the world" Barry Melrose declared him incapable of playing in the NHL because of his strength and size and only gave him about 9 minutes a game before getting fired.
The only way I'd take Lecavalier in is if the Lightning take Drury off of our hands. (won't happen)
Then, not just that, I would love Lecavalier to accept a buy-out from Sather after the season. (won't happen)
And he re-signs with us for 4 years, $24 million. (won't happen)
So, forget this guy already. His contract is outrageous.
Do you know how buyouts work? If we bought him out, I'm not sure we'd be allowed to re-sign him per the CBA, but if we could, the resulting cap hit would be higher than it is now.
Vinny is just a bad idea at this point. We don't have the cap space or the depth to trade for him and still ice a competitive team.
)throws cold water on his rumor by mentioning Vinny isn't waiving his NMC and TB wants no part of Redden.
