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11-07-2009, 04:00 PM
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Minnesota has two free agent defensemen to move at the deadline in Marek Zidlicky and Kim Johnsson. Those are their two big chips to move for futures. Owen Nolan is not going to bring much back. Chuck Fletcher has his work cut out from him in Minnesota. Some of the other former #1's such as James Sheppard and Benoit Pouliot haven't developed. Bouchard has the serious concussion.
I'd rather them sign Johnsson to an extension than see him shipped off as a rental. He is irreplaceable in free agency, unless by some miracle Paul Martin makes it there.

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11-07-2009, 07:37 PM
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Probably still too early for Phoenix to start shopping Mueller, but I could see something around Cal Clutterbuck as the basis for a possible deal.

Mueller has 30 goal ability, but after an off season a year ago where he added too much muscle/weight he has struggled to regain his form that saw him score 22 as a rookie. He wasn't the fleetest of foot to begin with and the added muscle only slowed him last season.

He has since been put on a different training regimen and now just needs to regain his confidence.

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11-07-2009, 10:21 PM
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what would Marek Zidlicky cost at the deadline?
he has a great cap hit, making him very easy to acquire midseason.

But what would the Wild be looking for? i know its a division rival n all. but still
Hockey deals can be made with enermies.

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11-08-2009, 11:12 AM
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would they trade backstrom near the deadline? prob could get overpayment for him. then draft well in what looks like could be a top 5 pick in 2010.
That's kind of an interesting idea. I don't follow the Wild much, unless they're on tv, but if the team does need to do a rebuild, would they trade Backstrom and give the #1 job to Harding?

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Backstrom has a NTC.

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11-08-2009, 02:09 PM
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Kind of bad luck for the wild. They picked a bad time to suck where they could not get franchise players in the draft. Just really good players. Koivu, Bouchard, Burns. They're good players but they need a great one. Edmonton was kind of unlucky with this too about 10 years back.

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11-08-2009, 04:56 PM
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so....is Burns untouchable or......

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11-08-2009, 05:33 PM
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so....is Burns untouchable or......
With the way he's playing he is definitely not untouchable.

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11-08-2009, 05:38 PM
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With the way he's playing he is definitely not untouchable.
what would the cost be on Burns????
or maybe Zidlicky at the deadline?

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what would the cost be on Burns????
or maybe Zidlicky at the deadline?
Zidlicky would probably cost a decent chunk simply because he is one of the few d-men on our team right now that's producing. Burns I would say you would need to overpay for. I say that simply because he used to be regarded as untouchable and while his play of late has probably changed that, he's still a young guy with potential. That will drag up his value to us significantly.

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11-08-2009, 06:04 PM
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what would the cost be on Burns????
or maybe Zidlicky at the deadline?
At this point, sadly, I would trade Burns before Zidlicky. Potential is still there but he is seriously lost an edge that he once had. Depends on the payout though.

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11-08-2009, 06:27 PM
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Burns to NYR for what?

Gilroy ? Gilroy +
one of our D prospects?
picks?
roster forwards not named Dubi or Cally

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Hey all! Just wanted to see if anyone has any suggestions for what moves The Wild could or should make to make this team more competitive. I'm such a huge fan of this team, but it's getting a little scary. So many teams are now playing really sharp, but have played like Wild is playing now; in the past. Obviously the draft has done wonders for some teams TB, NYI, LA! (awesome right now), PHX. Is this the same destiny for MN and if so, what youngsters should we be watching?
Like the posters before me said........ fire your scouting staff.
Today scouting and finding gems in the later round is very important because the other teams draft very good players too.

The 2nd thing would be... do absolute nothing. There is no trade or move or whatever that would help the Wild right now.
Try to stock you picks for the mediocre players.
Let the young guns play before the at best mediocre Veterans.
No leadership in the world would change the Wild situation.
Kick anyone out who is not able to play hockey.
If you always let your young guys play you will fing a gem sooner or later.

There is something wrong in a Team where Belanger is a top scorer.
he is a 3rd lien player at best.
That brings you to your problem.
Your defense shold be at leat kind of solid for now.
So you have to draft as much centers as you can.
Just true playmakers ago from here.

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11-08-2009, 07:50 PM
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Burns to NYR for what?

Gilroy ? Gilroy +
one of our D prospects?
picks?
roster forwards not named Dubi or Cally
Rangers don't make a good trading partner because for Burns the Wild would be looking for a young 30 goal scoring forward.

The absolute minimum Zidlicky will get dealt for as a rental is a 2nd round pick. He should get more considering there will be teams in need of a PP QB top-4 right hand shot d-man.

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Rangers don't make a good trading partner because for Burns the Wild would be looking for a young 30 goal scoring forward.

The absolute minimum Zidlicky will get dealt for as a rental is a 2nd round pick. He should get more considering there will be teams in need of a PP QB top-4 right hand shot d-man.
Grabner n a Second at the deadline?
might have to take some salary back as well. Wellwood or SOB,
but if the team is healthy by than, Grabner could be pushed to the outside looking in,
Minny would give him top line minutes, and could Flourish with a real shot.
Decent showing in his time.
i know our second this year we dont have, But next years i think we have.

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11-08-2009, 09:22 PM
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1. The Scouting Staff was turned over in July. New Scouts, new philosophy on development. There just won't be any immediate returns.

2. It'll take a while to bring in the personnel that can play Richards' system. Brunette can make it because of what he brings on ice and in the locker room, but guys like Nolan and Boogaard are goners sooner than later.

3. We aren't even at the 1/4 mark of the season yet. No reason to hit the panic button and assume that we're going to bottom out for the next few years. Its a transitional process.

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the canucks offer kyle wellwood for sheppard or brodziak

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the canucks offer kyle wellwood for sheppard or brodziak
Brodziak play centre?
we need a 3rd line centre. if he can play centre ill take that deal,.

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PM Bouchard
Colton Gillies
Derek Boogard
2nd Round Pick

for

Luke Schenn
Lee Stempniak
Jamal Mayers

Bouchard - Stajan - Kessel
Blake - Grabovski - Ponikarovsky
Gillies - Mitchell - Hagman
Orr - Primeau - Boogard

Kaberle - Komisarek
Beauchemin - Finger
Schenn - Exelby

Gustavson

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11-08-2009, 10:37 PM
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PM Bouchard
Colton Gillies
Derek Boogard
2nd Round Pick

for

Luke Schenn
Lee Stempniak
Jamal Mayers

Bouchard - Stajan - Kessel
Blake - Grabovski - Ponikarovsky
Gillies - Mitchell - Hagman
Orr - Primeau - Boogard

Kaberle - Komisarek
Beauchemin - Finger
Schenn - Exelby

Gustavson
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11-08-2009, 10:42 PM
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Grabner n a Second at the deadline?
might have to take some salary back as well. Wellwood or SOB,
but if the team is healthy by than, Grabner could be pushed to the outside looking in,
Minny would give him top line minutes, and could Flourish with a real shot.
Decent showing in his time.
i know our second this year we dont have, But next years i think we have.
I'd say Grabner straight up would be close, assuming its a rental(cond pick if he re-signs or something). Biggest problem would be sending him in the division, but he isn't that great(like Roloson wasn't either).

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PM Bouchard
Colton Gillies
Derek Boogard
2nd Round Pick

for

Luke Schenn
Lee Stempniak
Jamal Mayers
Wild take this and run, but why would the Leafs give up Schenn for a solid prospect and a 2nd, while taking on one of the worst contracts in the league, and one of the worst hockey players in the NHL?

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Wild take this and run, but why would the Leafs give up Schenn for a solid prospect and a 2nd, while taking on one of the worst contracts in the league, and one of the worst hockey players in the NHL?
Brian Burke would never make that trade. Jeffleafsfan91 just likes to post random proposals, just ignore that horrible proposal.

Fletcher will most likely be a seller come trade deadline. Josh Harding should be one of the players that will most likely be traded now that Backstrom has the long term contract. The Wild should get something decent for Harding from a team that needs a young goaltender to step into the NHL within the next two years at most.

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To MIN:
Jonathan Cheechoo
Ryan Shannon/Shean Donovan/3rd rounder

To OTT:
Owen Nolan
Petr Sykora

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Burns to NYR for what?

Gilroy ? Gilroy +
one of our D prospects?
picks?
roster forwards not named Dubi or Cally
See I'm not sure what NYR would give up right now because they are stilling firing as a great team. Gilroy would def. be part of it and I'd have to look and see what else could be found on the team though. Picks would depend where you stand at the deadline and what I believe your potential to go to the Finals are (which I do have them predicted to go to). At that point your 1st round pick is basically an early 2nd round pick.

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1. The Scouting Staff was turned over in July. New Scouts, new philosophy on development. There just won't be any immediate returns.

2. It'll take a while to bring in the personnel that can play Richards' system. Brunette can make it because of what he brings on ice and in the locker room, but guys like Nolan and Boogaard are goners sooner than later.

3. We aren't even at the 1/4 mark of the season yet. No reason to hit the panic button and assume that we're going to bottom out for the next few years. Its a transitional process.
While many are hitting the panic button, its curious to see what is out there though. The team is exactly where they were last year though...they can't stay consistent. One game they are electric, the next they are worse than a last place Div-II hockey team. Remember, they couldn't get a winning streak going last year at all. That is basically what its boiling down to this year again.

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To MIN:
Jonathan Cheechoo
Ryan Shannon/Shean Donovan/3rd rounder

To OTT:
Owen Nolan
Petr Sykora
Don't like Cheechoo's contract

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