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Caps waive Nylander (Again)

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11-07-2009, 02:15 PM
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11-07-2009, 02:16 PM
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The Wings could probably use him, he did well on the Wings farm club and he seems like he'd fit our system. But we would need to get him on re-entry. Maybe the Wings and Caps can work out an Avery type deal where they agree to have him go on re-entry know another team will pick him up (if thats how it went down, i mite be wrong about this).

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11-07-2009, 02:18 PM
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Via Steve Hindle from yesterday:
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Although it would not have been considered to be possible over a month ago, there is now talk of teams being interested in Nylander.

The Detroit Red Wings are interested. Apparently so are(were?) the Avs and Coyotes.

In terms of the Wings, their interest is not public or official by any means, but there is interest beneath the surface. Having spent time with the Red Wings AHL affiliate for the last 2 weeks, the Wings have had the best opportunity to scout the Swedish centerman and there is reason to believe that they could be interested given their recent rash of injuries. Without Franzen and Filppula for an extended period of time, Detroit could use the reinforcements, but, once again, salary cap implications and questions about endurance and ability are the main sticking points. Nylander would have no problem fitting in on a Swedish oriented team like the Wings and would likely become a key element, but that is just speculation.

It would seem like making a deal wouldn’t be as difficult as it seems, were it not for the fact that George McPhee is not willing to accept salary in return for Nylander. If he was, a move would have likely been made already. But, since GMGM does not want to take back anything for him, trade talks hit a wall.

There is also the scenario of passing Michael through re-entry waivers in which the Caps would then be on the hook for half of Nylander’s salary for the rest of this year and next. Obviously this option would make Nyls more attractive to the rest of the NHL, but it is not a pretty option for Washington as it would continue to handcuff them moving forward.

Deals have been floated by the Isles and Avalanche, but at too much of a cost to McPhee. The Caps GM is in tough spot given that he does not want to take back salary. Especially if it is a player that has a deal that runs through next season.

Phoenix’s interest is merely a pipe dream as that club is bleeding money and the thought of them acquiring a player with Nylander’s salary is quite absurd. That said, the Coyotes could use Nylander’s services, but playing in the desert is most likely the last possible option, mainly due to the cash.

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11-07-2009, 03:15 PM
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Well, if they waived him because of Forsberg then they will be a very scary team

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11-07-2009, 03:17 PM
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Well, if they waived him because of Forsberg then they will be a very scary team
Does Forsberg (like Jagr) have to pass thru waivers to come back?

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11-07-2009, 03:21 PM
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Why in the world would Nylander waive his NMC if Washington was going to send him to the AHL? I would think there has to be an interest in place from a team to take him on re-entry or why would he waive it?

I am also curious if this to facilitate a move to Europe does it negate the cap hit to the Caps?
I pray some NHL team will claim him. Yes.

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11-07-2009, 03:26 PM
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Does Forsberg (like Jagr) have to pass thru waivers to come back?
No, he played on a try-out contract in Sweden so that he would not have to.

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Deals have been floated by the Isles and Avalanche, but at too much of a cost to McPhee. The Caps GM is in tough spot given that he does not want to take back salary. Especially if it is a player that has a deal that runs through next season.
I smell BS. What use do the Avs have for Nylander?!

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Yeah, it is a better league then the SEL and plenty more $$$* to earn there.

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Must have waived it.

I believe for NMC his waiver is for his release

if a team claims him--he can turn them down

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I don't know how the rubel sign even looks like.

But try this. (on XP)

Click Start -> Run -> Write "charmap" and see if you find it there
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Is he really that bad now?

The last time I remember watching him play was when he was on the Rangers and he looked pretty good. I don't remember watching him much on the Caps, but Caps fans say he's awful so I guess I'll take their word for it.

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BTW

That pounding you are hearing is every oiler fan pounding their clentched fist on the bar laughing their collective ***** off at this move

Mrs Nylander is very popular in Edmonton right now for telling her husband he couldnot sign there

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11-07-2009, 05:16 PM
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If he wasn't signed for next year too, I think he could be a decent pick up for Colorado. They need another top 6 forward.

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I bet Toronto picks him up if they can fit him under the Cap.

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I smell BS. What use do the Avs have for Nylander?!
Unless he plays wing, the Avs can't be interested can they?

With Stasnty, Duchene, and O'Reilly playing center for the top 3 lines. Where would he fit in. Galiardi centered the fourth line, but he was switched to wing and then got injured.


Caps fans, can Nylander play wing half decent in a top 6 role?

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I wouldn't mind him on the Wings on re-entry. As long as I'm reading the CBA correctly, the 50% provision would count for the remainder of his contract, so you're looking at about 2.4M for the next 1.5 seasons.

If someone were to pick him up on re-entry, he'd cost less than 2M in cap space for the season, which is very reasonable for Nylander.

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I wouldn't mind him on the Wings on re-entry. As long as I'm reading the CBA correctly, the 50% provision would count for the remainder of his contract, so you're looking at about 2.4M for the next 1.5 seasons.

If someone were to pick him up on re-entry, he'd cost less than 2M in cap space for the season, which is very reasonable for Nylander.
he has already agreed to be waived, which means the caps get him off their books this season if they keep him in the minors. Why would they take a 2M hit for two years?

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Pay half his salary and take a cap hit or pay his full salary in the minors.

Plus his salary in the minors isn't subject to escrow.

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he has already agreed to be waived, which means the caps get him off their books this season if they keep him in the minors. Why would they take a 2M hit for two years?
I thought he was a 35+ contractee. Guess hes only 36 now. My mistake.

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he has already agreed to be waived, which means the caps get him off their books this season if they keep him in the minors. Why would they take a 2M hit for two years?
Maybe the owner doesn't want to pay 5 million dollars for a minor league player.

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Maybe the owner doesn't want to pay 5 million dollars for a minor league player.
its possible, but the general expectation is that Nylander can make the same money in the KHL. Why rot in the minors for the rest of your career if you dont have to?

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Caps fans, can Nylander play wing half decent in a top 6 role?

Short answer: No.

Reason: Sucked there even with Ovechkin and Backstrom.

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