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Halak's Agent: "10 Wins, 32 Losses for Carey Price in Last 42 Starts..Hmm"

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11-08-2009, 05:48 PM
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why exactly is this in leafs board?

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why exactly is this in leafs board?
Why? Are we restricted only to talk about the Leafs?

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11-08-2009, 06:24 PM
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While it's a dumb thing for the agent to say, given he's supposed to act like a professional, what he's saying is a fact. Halak deserves more starts.

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11-12-2009, 06:16 PM
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How come no one's pointing out the fact that the tweet was an incorrect stat to begin with?

I counted 10w and 28l...

This season: 9 starts
2 wins, 7 losses

April (playoffs) 4 starts
0 wins (4 losses)

April (reg season) 3 starts
0 wins

March 10 starts
5 wins , 5 losses

February 7 starts
1 win, 6 losses

January 4 starts
1 win, 3 losses

December 31st... 1st of 10 wins...

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11-12-2009, 06:43 PM
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A goaltending controversy? Resentment and bickering in the Montreal dressing room?

Ha ha ha.... This has made my day.

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11-12-2009, 07:00 PM
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He might be one of those guys better served by playing in a place with less pressure.

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11-12-2009, 09:52 PM
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This is not baseball.....teams win and lose games........wins and losses cannot be pinned on goalies...they are part of the team.

They are the last means of defense, a team, may or may not score enough on a particular night to get the "w".

Offense can be to blame as well as bad breaks, defensive breakdowns and bad bounces.

It is not always cut and dried children....you should know that tsk. tsk.

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11-12-2009, 09:56 PM
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Jim Carey Price. Must be the name Carey that does it.

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11-12-2009, 10:01 PM
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I dont see anything wrong with that comment...it's the truth. And what agent wouldn't try to help out they're players...espcecially when that player is in his contract year. Besides, Halak has outplayed Price considerably yet still they balance the games played, but then again, you have to justify a 5th overall pick somehow....

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11-12-2009, 11:38 PM
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I dont see anything wrong with that comment...it's the truth. And what agent wouldn't try to help out they're players...espcecially when that player is in his contract year. Besides, Halak has outplayed Price considerably yet still they balance the games played, but then again, you have to justify a 5th overall pick somehow....
Not true....sunshine......just not true.......

You have no clue......but what can you do......why are leafs fans worrying so much about Montreal when they have worse goaltending problems.

At least Montreal has two great goalies competing.

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11-13-2009, 04:44 AM
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i cant believe halaks agent apologized for this. pretty gutless considering all he stated was a concrete statistic lol

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11-13-2009, 07:57 AM
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i'd swap price for toskala


however there is notably different potential there.. however price seems to have gone the way of raycroft... and like raycroft he'll eventually bounce back... but the #1 rock, record contending goalie is a rare breed.
Bounce back where? To the bench?

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11-13-2009, 08:21 AM
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why exactly is this in leafs board?
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Why? Are we restricted only to talk about the Leafs?
If I want to discuss the Blackhawks, I go to the Hawks' board. If I want to discuss the Penguins, I go to the Pens' board. See the pattern?

When on the Leafs board, I don't give a **** what is happening with the Habs goalies. Regardless of whatever stupid stat comes out of some dumbass agent's twitter page, both Price and Halak are good goalies, and we'd love to have either one of them playing for us. A Gustavsson-Halak/Price combo would be sweet, and you all know it.

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If I want to discuss the Blackhawks, I go to the Hawks' board. If I want to discuss the Penguins, I go to the Pens' board. See the pattern?

When on the Leafs board, I don't give a **** what is happening with the Habs goalies. Regardless of whatever stupid stat comes out of some dumbass agent's twitter page, both Price and Halak are good goalies, and we'd love to have either one of them playing for us. A Gustavsson-Halak/Price combo would be sweet, and you all know it.
afaik we are free to discuss whatever we want

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afaik we are free to discuss whatever we want
Yes. There is this neat feature called Ignore Thread. I use it often and I use it well because that is how I roll.

Stay thirsty, my friends.

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11-13-2009, 10:48 AM
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This is not baseball.....teams win and lose games........wins and losses cannot be pinned on goalies...they are part of the team.

They are the last means of defense, a team, may or may not score enough on a particular night to get the "w".

Offense can be to blame as well as bad breaks, defensive breakdowns and bad bounces.

It is not always cut and dried children....you should know that tsk. tsk.
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11-13-2009, 01:29 PM
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If I want to discuss the Blackhawks, I go to the Hawks' board. If I want to discuss the Penguins, I go to the Pens' board. See the pattern?

When on the Leafs board, I don't give a **** what is happening with the Habs goalies. Regardless of whatever stupid stat comes out of some dumbass agent's twitter page, both Price and Halak are good goalies, and we'd love to have either one of them playing for us. A Gustavsson-Halak/Price combo would be sweet, and you all know it.
the title of the thread is pretty obvious. if you didn't want to "discuss" it you didn't have to come into the thread.

did you need to come in to fill your b!tch quota for the day?

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11-13-2009, 01:30 PM
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Not true....sunshine......just not true.......

You have no clue......but what can you do......why are leafs fans worrying so much about Montreal when they have worse goaltending problems.

At least Montreal has two great goalies competing.
doesn't seem anyone is worried about, just poking fun. just as you would/do.

and great response. all the evidence you gave to show the post was not true is wonderful...

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This is not baseball.....teams win and lose games........wins and losses cannot be pinned on goalies...they are part of the team.

They are the last means of defense, a team, may or may not score enough on a particular night to get the "w".

Offense can be to blame as well as bad breaks, defensive breakdowns and bad bounces.

It is not always cut and dried children....you should know that tsk. tsk.
Yes, losses can DEFINITELY be pinned on goalies.

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11-14-2009, 11:38 AM
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am I the only one who thinks thats a very valid statement of his?
No. You're not.
He made a statement backed up with stats.

Just because it's not what Habs fans want to hear that doesn't mean it's not accurate.

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11-14-2009, 11:41 AM
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This is not baseball.....teams win and lose games........wins and losses cannot be pinned on goalies...they are part of the team.

They are the last means of defense, a team, may or may not score enough on a particular night to get the "w".

Offense can be to blame as well as bad breaks, defensive breakdowns and bad bounces.

It is not always cut and dried children....you should know that tsk. tsk.
Then you can't give goalies credit for wins then either. Brodeur = Toskala?? Toskala's soft goals are due to defensive breakdowns and bad bounces? Maybe in a game or two....but not when you're talking about a long term period of extended sucking....like a 10 and 32 record.

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11-15-2009, 09:01 AM
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Then you can't give goalies credit for wins then either. Brodeur = Toskala?? Toskala's soft goals are due to defensive breakdowns and bad bounces? Maybe in a game or two....but not when you're talking about a long term period of extended sucking....like a 10 and 32 record.
Thats what the other stats are for, wins and losses are team effort. In your world you should have the goaltender listed instead of the team

Not New Jersey first ....but....Broudeur
Not Pittsburg first....but....the goaly

If the goaltender took all the credit for wins and losses where does that leave the rest of the team...Some shots are not stoppable and no goaly gets more then a few shut outs....so the nature of the game is teams will score, mistakes will be made by all players, resulting in goals.

Is this so complicated....what is more important chances/wins and losses as a stat. The team with the most chances should win.

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11-15-2009, 07:09 PM
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Price is just having maturity issues because he was rushed to the spotlight in montreal. He isn't carey roy price. He has a good skillset, but the team in front of him really isn't as good as people think.

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Price is just having maturity issues because he was rushed to the spotlight in montreal. He isn't carey roy price. He has a good skillset, but the team in front of him really isn't as good as people think.
I don't think anyone really even thinks that the team in front of him is any good lol.

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While i really don't care about him mentioning this, if it indeed is the fact. The thing that bothers me is his selective number 42. Seems he picked up a number to maximize Price's failures. How about 56? or 22? or 30? get my drift? it's an arbitrary number. Count a season, half a season, etc. don't go over two seasons and pin point exactly where you wanna start counting from and where you wanna end your count. That to me is the BS trick he pulled.

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