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11-08-2009, 06:54 PM
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When Johnny Oudya and Paul Martin return (at different times probably) are puck moving defencemen problem will be over. No looking to sign a big name free agent or trade for one. With Martin, Oduya, and Greene all playing at their best are problem will fly away. The cost to get this new puck moving defender, nothing except pure trust and time. Letting Andy develop and putting him in even if he hasn't proved to be a top four defender. With Sutter he would mutter and complain about how he doesn't have any players to work with but with JL he trusts the youngsters and lets them play.

Many teams such as the Rangers go out and buy their team. Except for Cally, Dubi, Del Zotto, Henrik, and Staal they bought there team ( Drury, Redden, Prospal, Higgins, Gaborik, and Kotalik.) The Devils grow there team and take chances. Lets see who is homegrown, Marty, White, Greene, Fraser, Martin, Zach, Pikks, PL3, Pando, Zajac, Pelley, Elias, Langs, Rolston, Clarkson, and Hali! With only Zubrus, Salvador, Murphy, Peters, and Nieds not being homegrown!

So three things I would like to point out

1. Lou is one of the best, honest, hardworking GMs in the NHL history. He has shown that you CAN win if you don't have a crap load of money. At this time I would like to thank Lou. In Lou We Trust!

2. I see good things coming when Johnny and Martin return if Greene continues his amazing play.

3. We are (not just coming from a Devils fan and I know I may get some crap from Ranger fans!) one of the best franchises of alltime!






I see great things in the Devils future!

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11-08-2009, 06:58 PM
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Adversity certainly seems to help this team come together and play harder. Last year the team played amazing after Brodeur went down and this year Greene and the gang have really stepped it up after the injuries to Martin and Oduya. Hopefully we can actually keep this play up after Martin, Oduya, Salvador, Pandolfo, Niedermayer, and Elias recover.

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If we're completely healthy at any point this year and we keep playing smart, there's reason to be very optimistic.

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I disagree. Every year we do this - we absolutely tear up the regular season and when it gets to the playoffs, the talent we have on defense just doesn't cut it.

We still need that elite defenseman. At the end of last year I let myself get lulled into a false sense of security, thinking a Leopold or Havelid would be enough. It wasn't. It still won't be.

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I disagree. Every year we do this - we absolutely tear up the regular season and when it gets to the playoffs, the talent we have on defense just doesn't cut it.

We still need that elite defenseman. At the end of last year I let myself get lulled into a false sense of security, thinking a Leopold or Havelid would be enough. It wasn't. It still won't be.
thats why I'm praying Anaheim misses the playoff's.... although the last few games they've played looked pretty good

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I disagree. Every year we do this - we absolutely tear up the regular season and when it gets to the playoffs, the talent we have on defense just doesn't cut it.

We still need that elite defenseman. At the end of last year I let myself get lulled into a false sense of security, thinking a Leopold or Havelid would be enough. It wasn't. It still won't be.
They don't grow on trees though. To be honest I don't think we'd be able to acquire anyone better than Martin is. My ideal pickup would be Robidas, because I think we'd be able to get him for a reasonable price if Dallas isn't in contention.

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I disagree. Every year we do this - we absolutely tear up the regular season and when it gets to the playoffs, the talent we have on defense just doesn't cut it.

We still need that elite defenseman. At the end of last year I let myself get lulled into a false sense of security, thinking a Leopold or Havelid would be enough. It wasn't. It still won't be.

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I disagree. Every year we do this - we absolutely tear up the regular season and when it gets to the playoffs, the talent we have on defense just doesn't cut it.

We still need that elite defenseman. At the end of last year I let myself get lulled into a false sense of security, thinking a Leopold or Havelid would be enough. It wasn't. It still won't be.

If we are offered the trade I'd take it! I want Nieds!

We don't have much to give that would land us a great defender except maybe be a very high draft pick and Tendenby or Jofeson.

I'd like to see Scott come back.

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I disagree. Every year we do this - we absolutely tear up the regular season and when it gets to the playoffs, the talent we have on defense just doesn't cut it.

We still need that elite defenseman. At the end of last year I let myself get lulled into a false sense of security, thinking a Leopold or Havelid would be enough. It wasn't. It still won't be.
Lou is being patient. We are in, somewhat, of a rebuild. Quietly, the Devils are building up a deep prospect pool.

Mark my words on this...Alexander Urbom will be our future #1 defenseman. He has all the tools. I've seen a few of his games in Brandon and he is an absolute monster. He's physical, uses his stick well, and can rip it from the point...I could see him making the team next year.

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Lou is being patient. We are in, somewhat, of a rebuild. Quietly, the Devils are building up a deep prospect pool.

Mark my words on this...Alexander Urbom will be our future #1 defenseman. He has all the tools. I've seen a few of his games in Brandon and he is an absolute monster. He's physical, uses his stick well, and can rip it from the point...I could see him making the team next year.
I know next to nothing of Urbom but I hope your right

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I know next to nothing of Urbom but I hope your right
He just has that look to him. I think, under the direction of Lemaire and company, that he could become a legitimate top defenseman in the league..

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Lou is being patient. We are in, somewhat, of a rebuild. Quietly, the Devils are building up a deep prospect pool.

Mark my words on this...Alexander Urbom will be our future #1 defenseman. He has all the tools. I've seen a few of his games in Brandon and he is an absolute monster. He's physical, uses his stick well, and can rip it from the point...I could see him making the team next year.
Urbom reminds me of Alex Edler, a good top 4 d-man. I think you might be setting his expectations a little high

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I disagree. Every year we do this - we absolutely tear up the regular season and when it gets to the playoffs, the talent we have on defense just doesn't cut it.

We still need that elite defenseman. At the end of last year I let myself get lulled into a false sense of security, thinking a Leopold or Havelid would be enough. It wasn't. It still won't be.
Yep...I was just about to say the same thing.

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I disagree. Every year we do this - we absolutely tear up the regular season and when it gets to the playoffs, the talent we have on defense just doesn't cut it.

We still need that elite defenseman. At the end of last year I let myself get lulled into a false sense of security, thinking a Leopold or Havelid would be enough. It wasn't. It still won't be.
I agree. We can't make a deep playoff run with the defence as it is currently constituted.

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They don't grow on trees though. To be honest I don't think we'd be able to acquire anyone better than Martin is. My ideal pickup would be Robidas, because I think we'd be able to get him for a reasonable price if Dallas isn't in contention.
I would be pleased if we were able to pick up Robidas. Other defencemen I would like to see Lou pursue if they are available around the deadline: Pavel Kubina, Rostislav Klesla, Zbynek Michalek, or Dan Hamhuis.

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Mark my words on this...Alexander Urbom will be our future #1 defenseman. He has all the tools. I've seen a few of his games in Brandon and he is an absolute monster. He's physical, uses his stick well, and can rip it from the point...I could see him making the team next year.
I'm optimistic that Urbom will turn out to be a steal of a third round pick, but he has a ways to go to develop into a #1 defenceman. We definitely need someone for the deadline this year.

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Whatever our prospects will or won't develop into really doesn't matter. This team has proven that, given the right pieces, it is good enough NOW. Having a future #1 defenseman doesn't help us with that vacancy in the present.

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We need to make another legitimate run at the Cup before Marty retires. I think we owe him that much. With Brodeur's retirement possibly coming within the next few years, the team needs to be in win-now mode.

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When Johnny Oudya and Paul Martin return (at different times probably) are puck moving defencemen problem will be over.
Those 2 are minimal and inadequate puck moving defenseman. The first is a hard working overacheiver, but not good enough offensively and the other one is a great skating defenseman whose defense is top notch, but has underacheived offensively.

And Langenbrunner is not homegrown.


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Those 2 are minimal and inadequate puck moving defenseman. The first is a hard working overacheiver, but not good enough offensively and the other one is a great skating defenseman whose defense is top notch, but has underacheived offensively.
Agreed.

Andy Green needs to play every single game like he did last night for me to be satisfied with the offense from our blueline.

God I hope Anaheim tanks...

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God I hope Anaheim tanks...
It would be foolish of Lou to put all his eggs in the (Scott) Niedermayer basket. Deadline day is always unpredictable, and Scott doesn't have a NTC so he has no say in where he ends up. Murray could give two ***** about re-uniting Rob and Scott. He'll send him to the highest bidder. If someone is willing to overpay (which will happen), your whole plan is ****ed.

We should try to get another d-man now.

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They don't grow on trees though. To be honest I don't think we'd be able to acquire anyone better than Martin is. My ideal pickup would be Robidas, because I think we'd be able to get him for a reasonable price if Dallas isn't in contention.
Dallas extended Robidas, and he's not a top pair anyway.

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It would be foolish of Lou to put all his eggs in the (Scott) Niedermayer basket. Deadline day is always unpredictable, and Scott doesn't have a NTC so he has no say in where he ends up. Murray could give two ***** about re-uniting Rob and Scott. He'll send him to the highest bidder. If someone is willing to overpay (which will happen), your whole plan is ****ed.

We should try to get another d-man now.
I agree. I don't really want to get involved in the madness that is the trade deadline. We want whoever we acquire to have enough time to get accustomed to the organised lunacy that is Lemaire's system. For this reason, I think we should aim to make this trade by the Olympic break.

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lou has a plan.....i think



....id love to get visnovsky btw. but the oil have no reason to trade him. were stuck with the current lineup for the time being.

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The only defenceman I'm interested in adding at the deadline is Niedermayer. Anyone else we add would cost too much, make no real impact in the playoffs, or likely both. This is even true for Niedermayer, but I'm willing to risk it for him.

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The only defenceman I'm interested in adding at the deadline is Niedermayer. Anyone else we add would cost too much, make no real impact in the playoffs, or likely both. This is even true for Niedermayer, but I'm willing to risk it for him.
It's too early to say this. We don't really know yet who will be available at the deadline. We can speculate based on which teams are doing well or poorly, and who is a UFA at the end of the season, but we don't know for sure. Players we might not have expected could become available, and if the price is right, Lou should go for it.

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**** niedermayer. he can cram it with walnuts.

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