I think the only way to HELP stop this happening is to dock Rangers and Celtic 35 points each starting next season. No CL or Europa league for them and have them hold an entire season of rangers-celtic matches behind closed doors.
Tell me why Celtic deserve to have points deducted...it's not Celtic supporters causing the bother...
Hib`s of course were founded before Celtc but were formed along the same sectarian lines as a "catholic only" club.
Also, having read this, get your facts right before you post. Celtic have never been a "Catholic only" club and never will be. It's always been open to all, the way it should be.
Nobody in Scotland likes Neil Lennon because of his attitude. Celtic fans and Celtic football club are desperate to make it out that this is about religion, but that has nothing at all to do with it.
He accuses referees of cheating, his club then force a referee strike. He accuses teams of lying down to Rangers in order to cost Celtic the Championship. He looks for every opportunity to wind up the opposition supporters. He has got involved with players from the touchline on a number of occasions this season.
He is not liked because of how he is seen to behave. It is a carry over from when he was a player as well; he was a big mouth with a short fuse. That is still there, and people just don't like him.
However, with football having become a political toy now it has made matters significantly worse. He certainly doesn't deserve what has went on in the past couple of months with devices being sent to his home and the attack last night. But he also has to realise that there are idiots out there and instead of looking for every possible opportunity to stoke the fires he should learn to keep his head down and defuse situations.
I have not had a chance to rebut this but I have a few minutes and so if I may....
NL is not hated by the rangers support he is LOATHED by them. Why? Well according to you this has nothing to do with the fact he is a Roman Catholic from Northern Ireland. You know that is complete rubbish.
I am a Protestant who supports Celtic because they have NEVER had a ban on any player because of their faith. For thise who may be new to the Scottish game rangers had a ban on Catholic players for decades and that ended as UEFA threatened sanctions against them if this policy did not stop.
As a Protestant I have many friends who are rangers fans and are bewildered as to why I would support and team that has that "wee b@stard Lennon" in charge. Not because of the way he played in his playing career or how he undercovered a linsman and a referee LYING about call in a game against Dundee United in 2010. I am chastised about my support of Celtic because of the 'Catholic influence' and that NL is also a Roman Catholic. As for winding-up the support...look no further than the rangers' el-hadj diouf. There's an issue that could take too much bandwith here to explain this eejit and why he was brought to rangers.
I live in Glasgow and I see bigotry towards my Catholic friends because of their faith. Scotland is a backward little biggotted country in northern Europe. Please don't sell people on this blog a load of keech because it is keech you are spewing and you know it.
As you also mention, NL went through a personal hell last season because rangers supporters wanted him DEAD! again not becuase of his "attitude" but rather because of his faith. Disgraceful in the 21st Century.
To the moderator...I am in no way trying to instigate trouble or troll but rather set the story straight to the rest of the forum who may not know the full-truth.
I don't disagree with the general thrust of your post, but I don't remember Martin O'Neill attracting that level of vitriol from Rangers fans so I think Lennon's personality does play into to some degree.
I don't disagree with the general thrust of your post, but I don't remember Martin O'Neill attracting that level of vitriol from Rangers fans so I think Lennon's personality does play into to some degree.
Fair point GB but Martin never played for his beloved Hoops. NL was a player who was not afraid to play with 'take no prisoners attitude'. Martin was a more skilled player and finisher. Neil was a pitbull and superb passer.
NL played for Northern Ireland and never had an issue until he was transfered to Celtic from England. He even cut his international career short due to death threats he received.
True, I'd never considered that he was an ex-Celtic player as well that may well play into it. Lennon's from Lurgen as well, I wonder if that makes a difference to how he's perceived. Either way, I don't think it's true that his personality is entirely to blame for the treatment he receives, but it certainly does play a part. So, sadly, does his denomination.
Fair point GB but Martin never played for his beloved Hoops. NL was a player who was not afraid to play with 'take no prisoners attitude'. Martin was a more skilled player and finisher. Neil was a pitbull and superb passer.
NL played for Northern Ireland and never had an issue until he was transfered to Celtic from England. He even cut his international career short due to death threats he received.
your post is rubbish mate martin oneil was and is a sunderland fan and did you see him play he was a similar player to lennon except with more pace.
also you posted about the death threats but you didn't say from whom, if you know please say and it wasnt the lvf as their was no coded warning , neil lennon got himself involved in politics like he gets himself involved in everything except football
your previous points about celtic not being a catholic club is just bogus and it doesnt really matter as thats celtics history and they should be proud of it
your post is rubbish mate martin oneil was and is a sunderland fan and did you see him play he was a similar player to lennon except with more pace.
also you posted about the death threats but you didn't say from whom, if you know please say and it wasnt the lvf as their was no coded warning , neil lennon got himself involved in politics like he gets himself involved in everything except football
your previous points about celtic not being a catholic club is just bogus and it doesnt really matter as thats celtics history and they should be proud of it
Celtic aren't a Catholic Club. Yes, when they were founded they appealed more to the Irish Catholic immigrant population, who adopted them as their team. But Celtic have never discriminated against anyone because of religion, unlike the other side of the OF.
[QUOTE=ScottishCanuck;37035143]Celtic aren't a Catholic Club. Yes, when they were founded they appealed more to the Irish Catholic immigrant population, who adopted them as their team. But Celtic have never discriminated against anyone because of religion, unlike the other side of the OF.[
I think its really funny that people get upset when Celtic are said to be a catholic club, i think it does a great disservive to their history which they should be proud of and everytime it gets mentioned its always brought up about Rangers sectarisism. I live in the West of Scotland and there are catholic, protestant and mixed pubs, is this right , probably not , is it the way it is, yes , its real life and things that shouldnt happen and Celtic is a catholic club end of and they should be proud of the fact.
I have not had a chance to rebut this but I have a few minutes and so if I may....
NL is not hated by the rangers support he is LOATHED by them. Why? Well according to you this has nothing to do with the fact he is a Roman Catholic from Northern Ireland. You know that is complete rubbish.
I am a Protestant who supports Celtic because they have NEVER had a ban on any player because of their faith. For thise who may be new to the Scottish game rangers had a ban on Catholic players for decades and that ended as UEFA threatened sanctions against them if this policy did not stop.
As a Protestant I have many friends who are rangers fans and are bewildered as to why I would support and team that has that "wee b@stard Lennon" in charge. Not because of the way he played in his playing career or how he undercovered a linsman and a referee LYING about call in a game against Dundee United in 2010. I am chastised about my support of Celtic because of the 'Catholic influence' and that NL is also a Roman Catholic. As for winding-up the support...look no further than the rangers' el-hadj diouf. There's an issue that could take too much bandwith here to explain this eejit and why he was brought to rangers.
I live in Glasgow and I see bigotry towards my Catholic friends because of their faith. Scotland is a backward little biggotted country in northern Europe. Please don't sell people on this blog a load of keech because it is keech you are spewing and you know it.
As you also mention, NL went through a personal hell last season because rangers supporters wanted him DEAD! again not becuase of his "attitude" but rather because of his faith. Disgraceful in the 21st Century.
To the moderator...I am in no way trying to instigate trouble or troll but rather set the story straight to the rest of the forum who may not know the full-truth.
What absolute tosh.
What a ridiculous piece of propaganda. Have you been taking your propaganda lessons from the green brigade perchance?
Tell me then, why do the fans of other clubs detest him? Are you saying EVERY fan in Scotland is a bigot, except of course, everyone at IRA fitbaw club.
So what did Diouf do to merit the poisonous welcome to Scotland from the media and fans alike? I know what he did but was it as bad as what Roy (let`s **** celtc for £65k a week) Keane, when he openly admits to trying to put a fellow Pro` out of the game and breaking his leg. Yet he is welcomed with open arms in the Republic of Scotland
Protestant Celtic supporters tend, in my experience, to be hardline Scot Nats. So it's not like it's really anymore friendly of a club, it's just about totally different political and sectarian shunning.
Was McCulloch's tackle on Kayal as bad as I heard? Haven't seen it yet, though somebody was tellin me while it was a 50/50 McCulloch went in studs up. Hope he's not badly injured.
Was McCulloch's tackle on Kayal as bad as I heard? Haven't seen it yet, though somebody was tellin me while it was a 50/50 McCulloch went in studs up. Hope he's not badly injured.
i read on a forum that lenny said kayal will be fine. it was a 50 50 that mcculloch typically of him got the player instead of the ball.
Celtic have always been one of my favourite teams and I was fortunate to see them against Man U in Toronto last year. The season it looks like (I'm hoping at least) they finally have the goods again to return to the top of the SPL, although there is a ways to go.
Also somewhat unrelated but I've been playing as Celtic in Career Mode on FIFA 12, and man in 5 years time Forrest and esp. Ki are gonna be AWESOME. If only Celtic could hold on to them...
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Celtic have always been one of my favourite teams and I was fortunate to see them against Man U in Toronto last year. The season it looks like (I'm hoping at least) they finally have the goods again to return to the top of the SPL, although there is a ways to go.
Also somewhat unrelated but I've been playing as Celtic in Career Mode on FIFA 12, and man in 5 years time Forrest and esp. Ki are gonna be AWESOME. If only Celtic could hold on to them...
i read on a forum that lenny said kayal will be fine. it was a 50 50 that mcculloch typically of him got the player instead of the ball.
It was an awkward challenge from the Rangers player, but he got 100% of the ball and none of Kayal. He went flying in on one side of the ball at the same time Kayal was somewhat stepping down on the other side, so that forced the ball back putting the pressure on Kayals ankle.
Celtic had the luck in the first half, when Rangers had scored, but neither the referee or linesman awarded the goal. Rangers appear unable to deal with the loss of Naismith though.
