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11-09-2009, 11:57 AM
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Giguere to Toronto for Toskala

There are rumors that the Toronto Maple Leafs and the Anaheim Ducks are talking trade that will send Jean-Sebastien Giguere east with Vesa Toskala sent the other way.

Randy Youngman of the Orange County Register wrote the Maple Leafs want Giguere to mentor rookie Jonas Gustavsson. An added bonus for Giguere would be being re-united with his goaltending coach Francois Allaire. The Leafs would pick up Giguere's contract for the rest of this season and next, while Toskala would be headed the other way to finish out the rest of his remaining contract as he can become a UFA after this season. If the deal comes to fruition, it will increase the fantasy value of Jonas Hiller who will be the undisputed number one in Anaheim and lower the value of Giguere, who will back up Gustavsson in Toronto, unless Gustavsson slumps.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...l=94602&id=673

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I dunno if I like the idea of taking 6 Million in salary for this year and next year for a backup goaltender. I much rather have Toskala for this year with the expiring contract. Plus, I wouldn't want Giguere taking starts away from Gustavsson

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I think you can find a mentor for next year for less than a $6 mil cap hit, no (or the buyout price)?

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Why would we trade a pending UFA for a guy making 6 million this year and next when we already have a good goaltender?

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That would be the end of the salary cap space for next year.

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doesn't make any sense whatsoever to pay $6 mil for a backup "mentor".

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I wouldn't pay an arm and a leg for JS Giguere, but I'd have to include a Finger!

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I don't think the Leafs should do that, we could use the cap space next year.

Blake or Finger would have to go the other way.

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Don't think this makes much sense for the leafs since the monster is starting to look like a legit starting goaltender. I'd much rather we get a pick or prospect if Toskala is traded

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A $4million backup for a $6million one.

Why is JS a backup? Hmmmm

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I honestly think this is completely contrived. We have cap space, Giggy has ties to Allaire and Burke and Hiller is the man there now. It makes itself up really because it's actually believable.

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Thats a terrible trade. Only way I'd do this is if they take Blake and/or finger, and give us a decent prospect. We need the cap space next year.

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Unless we have salary going the other way as well as Toskala I can't see even a remote chance of this rumour comming to fruitation.

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I honestly think this is completely contrived. We have cap space, Giggy has ties to Allaire and Burke and Hiller is the man there now. It makes itself up really because it's actually believable.
If we send them Finger as well it would work. They need help on D dont they?

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I don't think the Leafs should do that, we could use the cap space next year.

Blake or Finger would have to go the other way.
Blake and Finger...

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I honestly think this is completely contrived. We have cap space, Giggy has ties to Allaire and Burke and Hiller is the man there now. It makes itself up really because it's actually believable.
Wait, did the salary cap go up suddenly? We have next to zero cap space.

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Yeah, let's have Jonas play well enough to deserve some more starts and then smash his hopes and dreams like a pack of powdered donuts at a weightloss convention by going out and getting a "number 1" goalie. And I say "number 1" because I don't know that JS is all that spectacular for 6 million.

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Half of that 6 million would need to be washed for next year. Finger is the likely candidate, but it could someone like Hagman as well.

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11-09-2009, 12:11 PM
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The Leafs don't need to spend $6 million on a backup. Toskala is off the books next year and Gustavsson needs to be re-signed. Anaheim is in the same boat with Hiller which is why they want to make a move so they aren't paying $10 million for goalies so why would Toronto want to put themselves in that boat?

Anaheim buys Giguere out, that is what I see happening.

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Half of that 6 million would need to be washed for next year. Finger is the likely candidate, but it could someone like Hagman as well.
This is not going to happen, it's even less likely that its Hagman.
Can I please be informed why we are getting a needless goaltender (Gustavsson is just fine and I have no problem plopping Toskala in against weaker teams) and giving up scoring, which we need desperately.

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11-09-2009, 12:13 PM
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Well, They have two 1sts this year.If they were to send one of them our way for picking up the 6mil hit next year then you'd look at it, But as it stands one for one i wouldn't do it.

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Unless we have salary going the other way as well as Toskala I can't see even a remote chance of this rumour comming to fruitation.
I'd rather keep Finger then let XLB play everyday. There would have to be some sort of salary swap though plus for taking giggy contract on next season, and because of this I doubt it happens.

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11-09-2009, 12:19 PM
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It would not surprise me to see BB add a veteran goalie to be a mentor, and he knows JS as well as anyone else, and I'd bet he'd love to have that kind of goaltending depth. Hasn't he said something about never being in the same situation again that he was in Vancouver.

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“He told The Fan yesterday that he learned his goaltending lesson in Vancouver, where Dan Cloutier sabotaged some pretty good teams, whether due to injuries or otherwise. “So I got to Anaheim and I said, ‘Never again will I be short on goaltending,” Burke said. “‘Never again.’

“Goaltending is like pitching,” he told the radio station. “It doesn’t matter how good the rest of your team is … It doesn’t matter what other positions you solve, it doesn’t matter if you’re GM of the year for the other positions – if you don’t have goaltending, you’re going home.”
However, I don't see him paying $10 000 000 for his goalies next year.

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It seems pretty obvious that, as he said above, all the moves he made over the summer are pretty irrelevant until he finds a goalie. A guy who will relax the players in Toronto and carry the load until Jonas is ready and seasoned. His front office staff have to find that guy who can come in and, oh, I don’t know, make a big save right out of the gate. Burke knows it, question is can he get it. Time will tell.

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11-09-2009, 12:24 PM
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If Giggy is traded, does Pogge get called up and improve that draft pick we are waiting to get for him?

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If Giggy is traded, does Pogge get called up and improve that draft pick we are waiting to get for him?
I thought he was already with them as Giggy is injured?

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