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08-07-2009, 07:41 PM
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Nikita Filatov

Does he crack the lineup? Is he ready?

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Yes, though where he will be is anybody's guess, probably start out on the 4th line and work up.

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Yes.

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I think he's ready, but in saying that I mean he is ready to take the next step in his NHL career. That experience must be positive and it must be framed within his abilty.

It's up to the coaching staff to ensure he succeeds, he has the NHL talent.

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yes, but will swap between lines often i think he will only be on the 1st line if he really surprises i say swaps between 2nd/3rd starts out 3rd/4th line

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Yes. Too many reputations on the line to have him in the AHL another year.

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Wasnt Howson on the radio up in Toronto hinting he would be on top six duty and thats why they didnt resign Jason Williams

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Howson wants him on the team, Hitchcock doesn't. Which means he'll play 5 minutes a game with either Dorsett or Boll and Murray. Can't wait for that.

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Hitchcock is notorious for burying his rookies on the depth chart, as he did with Carter and Richards in Philly. Filatov is a dynamic player and deserves a tryout on the top-6. Any chance a Nash-Brassard-Filatov line is assembled in the near future? That would be tough to contain.

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He seemed to adapt to the AHL game pretty quickly last season, and showed he could score here.

He should be here from now on.

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Howson wants him on the team, Hitchcock doesn't. Which means he'll play 5 minutes a game with either Dorsett or Boll and Murray. Can't wait for that.
Your joking I'm sure. No player had less than an average of 8 minutes a game last season so he will get at least that, probably much more by mid season. I don't know if Hitchcock wants him on the team or not but he's going to get him, and the process better be a successful one.

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I see him averaging 8-10 min but I see alot of games where this guy won't get 5. mins in.

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Your joking I'm sure. No player had less than an average of 8 minutes a game last season so he will get at least that, probably much more by mid season. I don't know if Hitchcock wants him on the team or not but he's going to get him, and the process better be a successful one.
why would he be joking, out of 8 games he had one where he played 2:54 and one where he played 4:51.

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Hitchcock is notorious for burying his rookies on the depth chart, as he did with Carter and Richards in Philly. Filatov is a dynamic player and deserves a tryout on the top-6. Any chance a Nash-Brassard-Filatov line is assembled in the near future? That would be tough to contain.
Filatov is a rookie, and however talented, didn't exactly dominate in the AHL last year. A Nash-Brassard-Filatov line may indeed lay in our future, but the kid has a lot of learning and growing up to do first. Second, our top two lines really aren't that bad, particularly in comparison to years past. Third or fourth line to start, but a line with a sting.

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Howson wants him on the team, Hitchcock doesn't. Which means he'll play 5 minutes a game with either Dorsett or Boll and Murray. Can't wait for that.
Oh really? You have a link for this or did you talk to Hitch personally?

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Hitchcock is notorious for burying his rookies on the depth chart, as he did with Carter and Richards in Philly. Filatov is a dynamic player and deserves a tryout on the top-6. Any chance a Nash-Brassard-Filatov line is assembled in the near future? That would be tough to contain.
*sigh* Most people on this board have seen the evidence to prove your little 'nototrious theory' flat incorrect but I will spell it out for you one more time.

Carter scored 23 goals and played 12:23/night.
Richards: played over 15 minutes
RJ (another rookie who was buried) scored 20 goals and played over 13 minutes a night.
Pitkanen has yet to match his rookie totals and played over 23 minutes...

I hope Filatov is capable of being 'buried in the depth chart' like that.

Do some research and then come trolling...

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why would he be joking, out of 8 games he had one where he played 2:54 and one where he played 4:51.
Did you watch him in those games? That kid looked like he was going to get killed. Oh yeah...he scored a hatty--the guy deserves 15 minutes a night, right? I have never been more afraid for a hockey players' safety than I was for his in some of those games.

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Did you watch him in those games? That kid looked like he was going to get killed. Oh yeah...he scored a hatty--the guy deserves 15 minutes a night, right? I have never been more afraid for a hockey players' safety than I was for his in some of those games.
actually, I did, and they didn't look any more physical than any other game. There are games where some of the other teams players are headhunting, but that was not the case n those games. Sometimes you have to let him go out and take a couple hits to get used to the speed and physicality of the NHL, you can't go around trying to protect people all the time.

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why would he be joking, out of 8 games he had one where he played 2:54 and one where he played 4:51.
And one where he played 12...his average was 8 minutes. If he is on the roster for the season he will average 8 minutes per game after he plays enough games to make an average relevant, probably more.

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Hitchcock is notorious for burying his rookies on the depth chart, as he did with Carter and Richards in Philly. Filatov is a dynamic player and deserves a tryout on the top-6. Any chance a Nash-Brassard-Filatov line is assembled in the near future? That would be tough to contain.
What some call burying, others call development. Did those players really end up so bad or maybe they were put into a position to be successful at that point in their career. Brassard and Voracek each wanted more time but they were played in situation where they could show success. By the end of the year Voracek was playing with confidence in all situations and earning more ice time. Filatov will go the same route. I've seen nothing that implies Hitchcock bury's young players and hurts their careers.

As for Nash Brassard Filatov....It certainly could be the future. I would say probably not this year but depending on Filatov's development it could be in 2 years but likely 3.

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I think he makes the big team this year.

As for his ice team, I hope he gets whatever he -earns-. Whether that is 2 minutes a night, or 20 minutes a night, I want him to earn it. Not a single person on the team deserves to have a damn thing handed to them.

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Completely off topic and probably irrelevant but here's my Nikita Filatov story. The night of his hat trick (Jan 10?), the wife and I are going to the game but are getting a room at Crowne Plaza because freezing rain is in the forecast and we don't want to drive home. Around 3:30 or 4:00 I get in the elevator to go downstairs and get a beer (too early yet to go to RBar) and who is in the elevator? Nikita Filatov, talking on his cell phone. We get down to the lobby and there is Freddy Modin waiting for him. They walked up to the arena together. Dumb story? Probably. But I thought it was pretty cool.

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actually, I did, and they didn't look any more physical than any other game. There are games where some of the other teams players are headhunting, but that was not the case n those games. Sometimes you have to let him go out and take a couple hits to get used to the speed and physicality of the NHL, you can't go around trying to protect people all the time.
This kid looked completely lost and out of place for the majority of the time he spent with us.

A kid Filatov's size can't take a couple of hits to get him used to it, he looks like he should be the stick boy out there. His speed and skill are NHL calibre, but his awareness wasn't even close. He needs to be eased into the games and played vs. the proper lines otherwise, our first round pick--the slight guy that he is--could have a very short career.

Hitch would be a total moron not to look out for this kids' best interest and try to protect him the best he can (aka: putting him in a position for success).

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Completely off topic and probably irrelevant but here's my Nikita Filatov story. The night of his hat trick (Jan 10?), the wife and I are going to the game but are getting a room at Crowne Plaza because freezing rain is in the forecast and we don't want to drive home. Around 3:30 or 4:00 I get in the elevator to go downstairs and get a beer (too early yet to go to RBar) and who is in the elevator? Nikita Filatov, talking on his cell phone. We get down to the lobby and there is Freddy Modin waiting for him. They walked up to the arena together. Dumb story? Probably. But I thought it was pretty cool.
Not dumb at all. It is great when something like this happens.

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*sigh* Most people on this board have seen the evidence to prove your little 'nototrious theory' flat incorrect but I will spell it out for you one more time.

Carter scored 23 goals and played 12:23/night.
Richards: played over 15 minutes
RJ (another rookie who was buried) scored 20 goals and played over 13 minutes a night.
Pitkanen has yet to match his rookie totals and played over 23 minutes...
Not to mention Voracek's 13 minutes a night, playing in the top 6...or Brassard's 15 minutes with time on the top line....or playing Mason until his legs fell off.

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Not to mention Voracek's 13 minutes a night, playing in the top 6...or Brassard's 15 minutes with time on the top line....or playing Mason until his legs fell off.
SHHH! Hitch doesn't play any rookies. Ever. Especially not talented ones. Or young ones. I know this, and you can't use your FACTS to change my mind!

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Hitchcock is notorious for burying his rookies on the depth chart, as he did with Carter and Richards in Philly. Filatov is a dynamic player and deserves a tryout on the top-6. Any chance a Nash-Brassard-Filatov line is assembled in the near future? That would be tough to contain.
Like others have said, this is very incorrect. Filitov won't be spoon fed minutes, but he won't play five minutes a night simply because he's a rookie. Voracek is a good example, he had good games and bad games. He saw games in which he played 10 mintues a night, and games in which he broke fifteen, sometimes even seventeen or eighteen minutes. I'm not going to go for an average here, but looking at the game log, it looks like he a median of 12-13 minutes a game.

I think Nikita will fall somewhere in the top nine for most of this year, probably mostly on the third line, unless he beats Voracek for the second-line. In any case, I see Jake getting that first-line opportunity before Filitov does.

Edit: And yes, I'm confident he cracks the line-up.

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