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New measurements will bring goalies down to size

View Poll Results: I think goalie specific sizing restrictions...
will put smaller goalies at an unfair disadvantage. 8 21.05%
will put goalies on an even playing field. 24 63.16%
are unnecessary, goalie equipment is fine. 6 15.79%
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11-11-2009, 10:38 PM
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New measurements will bring goalies down to size

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New measurements will bring goalies down to size - NHL.com - NHL Insider


New measurements will bring goalies down to size
Wednesday, 11.11.2009 / 2:48 PM / NHL Insider
By Shawn P. Roarke - NHL.com Managing Editor

"No matter what we do, the goaltenders have to feel that it is fair from one end of the rink to the other and I think that is all that goalies ever asked from Day 1." -- Kay Whitmore, manager of hockey operations for the NHL
TORONTO -- While much of Wednesday's session of the NHL General Managers Meeting was focused on keeping skaters safe by addressing blindside hits to the head, there also was a fair amount of time focused on keeping goalies safe despite a desire to reduce the size of their padding.

Kay Whitmore, manager, hockey operations for the NHL, took center stage at Wednesday's meeting and updated the League's GMs on the status of size-specific goaltending equipment being instituted next season.


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Interesting they have discussions about headshots and look what happened in the Edmotnon-Buffalo game tonight.

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Interesting they have discussions about headshots and look what happened in the Edmotnon-Buffalo game tonight.
Because discussions in a board room are going to help change a problem in a game that night?

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So, is Luongo going to have a pout-fest and say he'll retire again?

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So, is Luongo going to have a pout-fest and say he'll retire again?
Probably not, this should give him an advantage over smaller goalies.

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So Giguere is gonna get exposed even more?

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Probably not, this should give him an advantage over smaller goalies.
Hey, don't ruin this for me.

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So Giguere is gonna get exposed even more?
Giguere is 6'1, I doubt he will be effected by this. He doesn't use bigger pads than other goalies his size.

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This doesn't even come close to addressing the problem.

Good ol' NHL.

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This doesn't even come close to addressing the problem.

Good ol' NHL.
Which problem? and how would you address it?

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Giguere is 6'1, I doubt he will be effected by this. He doesn't use bigger pads than other goalies his size.
I didn't read the article, but if the reductions include the shoulder pads, Giguere is toast. His shoulder pads are a complete joke.

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I didn't read the article, but if the reductions include the shoulder pads, Giguere is toast. His shoulder pads are a complete joke.
No its just a change to the pad height based on the size of the goalie.

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I'll say it flat out if no one else will -- Luongo is a friggin' cheat.

I watched that Oilers-Canucks game where JDD was in, and JDD is actually an inch taller than Luongo, yet his equipment was noticably smaller than Luongo's bulky pads. Kipper is about the same size too and his equipment is noticably smaller as well.

I think he would get exposed if he was forced to wear a regular equipment size. No wonder he cries about the possibility of larger nets too.


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There has to be a balance and I think the equipment should be reduced, but you still have to protect these guys, because NHL shots are frighteningly hard.

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I'll say it flat out if no one else will -- Luongo is a friggin' cheat.

I watched that Oilers-Canucks game where JDD was in, and JDD is actually an inch taller than Luongo, yet his equipment was noticably smaller than Luongo's bulky pads. Kipper is about the same size too and his equipment is noticably smaller as well.

I think he would get exposed if he was forced to wear a regular equipment size. No wonder he cries about the possibility of larger nets too.
That's pretty funny because Luongo and JDD wear the same pads, and I bet you they are exactly the same size.

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Which problem? and how would you address it?
The problem that pads are a ridiculous size. All this does is punish the small guys who were never really the problem anyway it was just a matter of perception. All the little things that goaltenders like Luongo like to use to gain better (unfair) advantages aren't being solved. There is no new standard being implemented, just a whole lot of nothing.

I'd absolutely love it if they narrowed the pads down. Height was never the issue.

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The problem that pads are a ridiculous size. All this does is punish the small guys who were never really the problem anyway it was just a matter of perception. All the little things that goaltenders like Luongo like to use to gain better (unfair) advantages aren't being solved. There is no new standard being implemented, just a whole lot of nothing.

I'd absolutely love it if they narrowed the pads down. Height was never the issue.
What does Luongo do to gain unfair advantages?

How long has the width of the pads been a problem? Because i'd say the width of the pads now is the narrowest they have been in 20-30 years.

I think the height of the pads is more of a problem than the width. The net is 6 feet wide, and most goalies can go in the butterfly and cover the whole bottom 11" of the net from post to post. Tell me how many goalies can actually do that without their pads on?

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I'll say it flat out if no one else will -- Luongo is a friggin' cheat.

I watched that Oilers-Canucks game where JDD was in, and JDD is actually an inch taller than Luongo, yet his equipment was noticably smaller than Luongo's bulky pads. Kipper is about the same size too and his equipment is noticably smaller as well.

I think he would get exposed if he was forced to wear a regular equipment size. No wonder he cries about the possibility of larger nets too.
I tried noticing the difference, but I have to see more pictures to conclude my observation.

JDD is 1 inch taller, but he looks half the size in net.

Why is this? Stance? I think it's a pretty big thing to call Luongo a cheater. I won't call him that. There is a difference in their equipment though.

I wish we could get a perfect picture of the two superimposed in front of each other.

EDIT: It looks like Luongos just way bigger in the upper body. Chest, shoulders, etc.

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So, is Luongo going to have a pout-fest and say he'll retire again?
I don't think so. He threatened to retire if the changed the size/shape of the nets, not the pads.

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Pad length doesn't make your legs longer, so yes most NHL goalies could cover most the net in a butterfly if the angle is right. Width on the other hand is an issue, and the biggest issue is the size of chest protectors.

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Pad length doesn't make your legs longer, so yes most NHL goalies could cover most the net in a butterfly if the angle is right. Width on the other hand is an issue, and the biggest issue is the size of chest protectors.
Are you kidding?

There is no way that any one of the goalies in the NHL could go down in the butterfly on the goal line and touch both of their feet to the posts and have their knees touch together. Their legs from their knee's to their toes would have to be 36", that's 10" longer than mine and i'm 6 feet tall. The legal limit on a goal pad is 38" when in the butterfly the goal pad covers 34" and with 2 (which most goalies wear) that covers 68" along the ice, the goal net is 72" wide, that leaves 2 inches of open net on each side of the goalie.


As for the bold par lets not change the parameters here. I could cover the whole bottom of the net with my little toe if i played the angles right.

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The goalie equipment is huge. My forward upper body equipment (shoulder and elbow pads, hell, even the pants) from the late 90s was bigger than my dads circa late 70's goalie equipment. Do you have any idea what goalie sticks used to weigh?

Advances in equipment for defensemen and forwards hasn't been nearly as large as it has been for goalies...

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I didn't read the article, but if the reductions include the shoulder pads, Giguere is toast. His shoulder pads are a complete joke.
No you wont as it looks big in largely due to a technique part of his game to make himself appear bigger. Think of a hunchback and how the head is lower than the shoulders, well Giguere does the same thing when in his stances which then makes his shoulders look bigger than they are. If it was his actual C/A that was bigger than everyone elses then it wouldn't pass the inspection done on all goalie equipment before it is sent to the goalie.

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Enough changes to goalie equipment, and trying to change the game, besides headshot, and things like this, we shouldn't even be talking about this. What's wrong with the game the way it is now? Leave it alone NHL.

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The goalie equipment is huge. My forward upper body equipment (shoulder and elbow pads, hell, even the pants) from the late 90s was bigger than my dads circa late 70's goalie equipment. Do you have any idea what goalie sticks used to weigh?

Advances in equipment for defensemen and forwards hasn't been nearly as large as it has been for goalies...
And Composite sticks shoot the puck how much harder now? The increased size in the chest protector and the pants are necessary to prevent injuries.

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