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10-26-2009, 03:43 PM
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2009 Karjala Tournament

The Swedish roster was released earlier today. Quite an all-star team, I'd say.

Schedule
DateMatchupCET/Score
Nov. 5Russia vs. Finland4-3 SO
Nov. 5Sweden vs. Czech Republic4-3
Nov. 7Sweden vs. Russia12:00
Nov. 7Finland vs. Czech Republic15:30
Nov. 8Russia vs. Czech Republic12:00
Nov. 8Finland vs. Sweden15:30

Was on original roster, but had to back out
Was not on roster, replaced someone else

Sweden
P.#PlayerTeam
G1Stefan LivHV71
G32Mikael TellqvistKazan
D3Mattias TimanderModo
D4Johan ÅkermanLugano
D5Daniel FernholmLinköping
D6Magnus Johanson (C)Linköping
D8Christian BäckmanFrölunda
D10Marcus Ragnarsson (A)Djurgården
D18Oscar HedmanFrölunda
D28Dick TärnströmAIK
D34Daniel TjärnqvistYaroslavl
L11Per-Johan AxelssonFrölunda
L12Christian BerglundRapperswil
L19Jimmie ÖlvestadDjurgården
L20Martin ThörnbergHV71
L23Linus OmarkDynamo Moscow
C21Peter ForsbergFree Agent
C22Niklas PerssonNizhnekamsk
C24Johan HarjuDynamo Moscow
C26Marcus NilsonDjurgården
C76Johan Davidsson (A)HV71
R14Niklas NordgrenRapperswil
R27Patrik ZackrissonLinköping
R41Daniel WidingDavos
R80Mattias WeinhandlDynamo Moscow

Czech Republic
P.#PlayerTeam
G30Marek SchwarzMladá Boleslav
G33Jakub ŠtěpánekVítkovice Steel
G51Lukáš MensatorKarlovy Vary
D2Josef MelicharČeské Budějovice
D4Vladimír SičákVítkovice
D5Tomáš MojžíšModo
D6Ondřej NěmecKarlovy Vary
D8Jakub ČuttaKarlovy Vary
D23Karel Rachůnek (A)Dynamo Moscow
D44Miroslav BlaťákUfa
D73Angel KrstevNovgorod
D80Zdeněk KutlákAmbri-Piotta
L11Petr HubáčekVítkovice
L38Jan BulisAtlant
L60Tomáš RolinekMagnitogorsk
L91Marek KvapilVítkovice
C10Roman ČervenkaSlavia Prague
C13Jiří NovotnýAtlant
C20Jakub KlepišOmsk
C24Jiří HudlerDynamo Moscow
C63Josef VašíčekYaroslavl
R16František LukešLitvínov
R19Tomáš KůrkaSlavia Prague
R25Jaroslav Bednář (A)Novgorod
R28Pavel BrendlNovgorod
R46Petr KumstátKarlovy Vary

Finland
P.#PlayerTeam
G30Iiro TarkkiBlues
G35Petri VehanenLukko
D5Lasse Kukkonen (A)Omsk
D6Ossi VäänänenDynamo Minsk
D7Mikko MäenpääHPK
D21Pasi PuistolaHV71
D22Markus SeikolaIlves
D28Jan LatvalaPelicans
D42Janne NiskalaFrölunda
L12Jani TuppurainenJYP
L16Ville Peltonen (C)Dynamo Minsk
L29Janne PesonenKazan
L41Antti PihlströmFärjestad
L71Leo KomarovDynamo Moscow
C22Tommi SantalaKloten
C26Jarkko ImmonenKazan
C37Petri KontiolaMagnitogorsk
C39Niko Kapanen (A)Kazan
R8Tony SalmelainenServette
R9Jukka VoutilainenHV71
R19Markko AnttilaIlves
R20Kalle KermanKalPa

Russia
P.#PlayerTeam
G20Georgi GelashviliLoko.
G30Alexander EremenkoUfa
G60Vasily KoshechkinTogliatti
D3Vitaly VishnevskiCSKA
D5Ilya NikulinKazan
D7Dmitri KalininUfa
D22Konstantin KorneevCSKA
D27Vitaly AtyushovMagnitogorsk
D28Denis KulyashDynamo Moscow
D45Vitaly ProshkinUfa
D56Sergei ZubovSKA
D76Alexander GuskovYaroslavl
L10Sergei MozyakinAtlant
L25Danis ZaripovKazan
L38Kirill KnyazevSpartak
L52Viktor KozlovUfa
L91Oleg SaprykinDynamo Moscow
C19Anton KuryanovOmsk
C21Konstantin GorovikovSKA
C23Alexei TereschenkoKazan
C24Petr SchastlivyCSKA
C42Sergei ZinovievUfa
R11Alexander GalimovYaroslavl
R33Maxim SushinskySKA
R42Alexander PerezhoginUfa
R47Alexander RadulovUfa
R95Alexei MorozovKazan


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Thörnberg - Davidsson - Weinhandl
Omark - Harju - Zackrisson
Berglund - Nilson - Widing
P.J Axelsson - Persson - Nordgren
Ölvestad

quickly thrown together. something i could definitely see

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Thörnberg - Davidsson - Weinhandl
Omark - Harju - Zackrisson
Berglund - Nilson - Widing
P.J Axelsson - Persson - Nordgren
Ölvestad

quickly thrown together. something i could definitely see
Why Jonas Andersson doesnt get a chance, he is one of the best swedes in europe.

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Why Jonas Andersson doesnt get a chance, he is one of the best swedes in europe.
Don't ask me. I think Andersson, Söderberg and Petrasek is missing on this roster.

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Don't ask me. I think Andersson, Söderberg and Petrasek is missing on this roster.

And Joakim Lindström..







My lineup to Karjala Cup:


Thörnberg - Davidsson - Weinhandl
Omark - Persson - Zackrisson
Berglund - Forsberg - Widing
P.J Axelsson - Nilson - Ölvestad
Nordgren/Harju




Ragnarsson - Johansson

Timander - Bäckman

Tjärnqvist - Hävelid

Hedman


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Quite an all-star team, I'd say.

Sweden
P.#PlayerTeam
G1Stefan LivHV71
G32Mikael TellqvistKazan
D3Mattias TimanderModo
D4Johan ÅkermanLugano
D6Magnus JohansonLinköping
D8Christian BäckmanFrölunda
D10Marcus RagnarssonDjurgården
D28Dick TärnströmAIK
D34Daniel TjärnqvistYaroslavl
L11Per-Johan AxelssonFrölunda
L12Christian BerglundRapperswil
L19Jimmie ÖlvestadDjurgården
L20Martin ThörnbergHV71
L23Linus OmarkDyn. Mo.
C22Niklas PerssonNizhnekamsk
C24Johan HarjuDyn. Mo.
C26Marcus NilsonDjurgården
C76Johan DavidssonHV71
R14Niklas NordgrenRapperswil
R27Patrik ZackrissonLinköping
R41Daniel WidingDavos
R80Mattias WeinhandlDyn. Mo.
Allstar team yes, if you look at the names.

However I wouldn't expect too much of that bunch. Of those defenders I only trust Timander and Ragnarsson not to screw up in their own zone on a regular basis. M.Johansson is good too but a bit weak physically. The others are just horrible in their own end. The goaltending is far from a sure thing either, neither one of Liv or Tellqvist has what it takes to play on an international level.

Zackrisson on the right wing? Weak. He should play center.

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Zackrisson on the right wing? Weak. He should play center.
Yeah. This roster could have used a couple more real centers. But since the Omark-Harju-Zackrisson unit has shown great chemistry in the past, you'd expect that line to stay intact, no?

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really boring team you got there. BÅG does not take any chances. Liv and tellqvist = ZZZZ

Markstrom has been the best SEL keeper so far this season but BAG likes to hold on to his veterans a few years after they expire date.

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really boring team you got there. BÅG does not take any chances. Liv and tellqvist = ZZZZ

Markstrom has been the best SEL keeper so far this season but BAG likes to hold on to his veterans a few years after they expire date.
Markström is playing with the U20 team in Canada

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Yeah. This roster could have used a couple more real centers. But since the Omark-Harju-Zackrisson unit has shown great chemistry in the past, you'd expect that line to stay intact, no?
I got the easy solution to that problem: Put Harju on the wing where he belongs and put Zackrisson in the middle, where he belongs.

And I agree, not many real natural centers on this team. In fact Zackrisson might be the only one, perhaps you could count Davidsson as one too but he's not the classic center type I'm looking for. Harju, Nilson and Persson are all wingers.

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Finland named a pretty strong line-up:

Goaltenders:
30 Iiro Tarkki (BLUES)
35 Petri Vehanen (LUKKO)

Defenders:
5 Lasse Kukkonen (AVANGARD OMSK)
6 Ossi Väänänen (DYNAMO MINSK)
7 Mikko Mäenpää (HPK)
21 Pasi Puistola (HV71)
22 Markus Seikola (ILVES)
28 Jan Latvala (PELICANS)
42 Janne Niskala (FRÖLUNDA)

Forwards:
8 Tony Salmelainen (GENEVE-SERVETtE)
12 Jani Tuppurainen (JYP)
16 Ville Peltonen (DYNAMO MINSK)
19 Marko Anttila (ILVES)
20 Kalle Kerman (KALPA)
23 Tommi Santala (KLOTEN)
26 Jarkko Immonen (AK BARZ KAZAN)
29 Janne Pesonen (AK BARZ KAZAN)
36 Jukka Voutilainen (HV71)
37 Petri Kontiola (METALURG MAGNITOGORSK)
39 Niko Kapanen (AK BARZ KAZAN)
41 Antti Pihlström (FÄRJESTAD)
71 Leo Komarov (MOSCOW DYNAMO)

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Don't ask me. I think Andersson, Söderberg and Petrasek is missing on this roster.
Petrasek has said something like a "no" to the national team. His explanation was that it hurts more to suck than it is fun if it goes well. However if he continues as he has started in the SEL he might be a man for WC.

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Dammit, was hoping Niskala's great play as of late would go unnoticed. Not an ideal situation to get a player selected to a Kalle Anka-tournament when he already logs 28 minutes a game and you have four defencemen injured.

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Yeah. This roster could have used a couple more real centers. But since the Omark-Harju-Zackrisson unit has shown great chemistry in the past, you'd expect that line to stay intact, no?
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Dammit, was hoping Niskala's great play as of late would go unnoticed. Not an ideal situation to get a player selected to a Kalle Anka-tournament when he already logs 28 minutes a game and you have four defencemen injured.
Well in NT he wont play 28 minutes, so no worries. I think he is in the third paring and on PP. The first pairing is clearly Väänänen-Kukkonen. Im really happy that Jalonen is dropping Niinimaa out because he is so awful. So is Lehtonen injured, I thought he would be on the team.

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Immonen-Kapanen-Pesonen

Peltonen-Kontiola-Voutilainen

Salmelainen-Santala-Pihlström

Komarov-Kerman-Anttila

Tuppurainen


Kukkonen-Väänänen

Seikola-Mäenpää

Niskala-Puistola

Latvala


Petri Vehanen

Iiro Tarkki

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So is Lehtonen injured, I thought he would be on the team.
Currently not playing because of personal issues.

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Immonen-Kapanen-Pesonen

Peltonen-Kontiola-Voutilainen

Salmelainen-Santala-Pihlström

Komarov-Kerman-Anttila

Tuppurainen
Pesonen - Kapanen - Salmelainen
Peltonen - Kontiola - Voutilainen
Pihlström - Immonen - Kerman
Komarov - Santala - Anttila

More like that.

And switch Niskala and Mäenpää around. Seikola - Mäenpää sounds awful defensively.


And why is this on Swedish board anyway?


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And why is this on Swedish board anyway?
Because Sweden is in it?

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Because Sweden is in it?
Oh, okay. I just meant that last time I checked, Karjala Tournament was the EHT of Finland, but I guess that's good enough for me.


Maybe we'll have the thread for LG Hockey Games in the Finnish section of the board then?

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Oh, okay. I just meant that last time I checked, Karjala Tournament was the EHT of Finland, but I guess that's good enough for me.


Maybe we'll have the thread for LG Hockey Games in the Finnish section of the board then?
Are you for real?

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Oh, okay. I just meant that last time I checked, Karjala Tournament was the EHT of Finland, but I guess that's good enough for me.

Maybe we'll have the thread for LG Hockey Games in the Finnish section of the board then?
So we're not allowed to discuss the tournament because it's in Finland? That's rich. Here in the Swedish section, we like have to have threads for all EHT tournaments. You can do whatever you want over on the Finnish board, I don't care.


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So we're not allowed to discuss the tournament because it's in Finland? That's rich. Here in the Swedish section, we like have to have threads for all EHT tournaments. You can do whatever you want over on the Finnish board, I don't care.
Hey, don't pick on the new guy.

Damn, this board is weird.

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Hey, don't pick on the new guy.

Damn, this board is weird.
you have all rights to start your own thread about Karjala Cup on Finnish board. dont take it personaly.

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