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11-14-2009, 05:43 PM
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Proposal: Toskala to Calgary for...

I think Toskala would be a good fit in Calgary. McElhinney is garbage IMO, and they need a decent backup to make a playoff run.

Seeing that Toskala is in his last year of the contract, his 4 million a season salary wouldn't be a burden for long.

I just see Toskala being a fit in Calgary for some reason. Anyone else see this as a possibility?

What do you think we could get in return? Maybe some salary coming this way and a pick/prospect?

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I thought we already took Calgary's salary dump when we acquired Primeau.

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this kind of makes sense. But given tosk's high salary and low trade value we wouldn't get more then a late pick

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Okay, Leafs would take Jokinen then. I know taking on the extra salary is hard to bear but Leafs would do that favor.

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Okay, Leafs would take Jokinen then. I know taking on the extra salary is hard to bear but Leafs would do that favor.
I think the Flames would probably want to hold on to Jokinen. Even though he's been s*&t he is still a useful player that has a potential upside.. If he just ever decides to wake up.

That being said, I would still love to take on his "salary dump"

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Nope. Too expensive.

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we need Vesa right now thanks. or do you think Joey is the answer?

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FIRST - The problem with the Leafs goes far beyond goaltending at the moment.

SECOND - What in the blue hell are you smoking, to actually think that someone would take Toskala, or any of our players at the moment?? He's got ZERO, if not highly minimal trade value whatsoever at the moemnt, and if indeed his contract is done at the end of the season and that contract dump isn't a "big burden" on other teams why not just keep him, let his contract run out, say goodbye, and then reinvest the 4 million?

....i really wish some people would think before they posted.

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FIRST - The problem with the Leafs goes far beyond goaltending at the moment.

SECOND - What in the blue hell are you smoking, to actually think that someone would take Toskala, or any of our players at the moment?? He's got ZERO, if not highly minimal trade value whatsoever at the moemnt, and if indeed his contract is done at the end of the season and that contract dump isn't a "big burden" on other teams why not just keep him, let his contract run out, say goodbye, and then reinvest the 4 million?

....i really wish some people would think before they posted.
I think it's pretty obvious, that the OP is implying this to be a deadline deal as that is when the playoff crunch will be in effect. Hence, mentioning "decent backup to make a playoff run."

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I'd rather have a trashcan in net than toskala. McE had one terrible start and one solid start. I dont see enough difference in skill between the two goalies to justify a trade even ignoring dollar figures.
Hard fought game by the leafs tonight, the second period was exciting.

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I'd rather have a trashcan in net than toskala. McE had one terrible start and one solid start. I dont see enough difference in skill between the two goalies to justify a trade even ignoring dollar figures.
Hard fought game by the leafs tonight, the second period was exciting.
So has Joey McDonald.....

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I'd rather have a trashcan in net than toskala. McE had one terrible start and one solid start. I dont see enough difference in skill between the two goalies to justify a trade even ignoring dollar figures.
Hard fought game by the leafs tonight, the second period was exciting.
You realize by prefering a "trash can" in net runins his trade value.

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You realize by prefering a "trash can" in net runins his trade value.
Yes, all the GM's check HFBoards for players value.

"Well Willalong said Toskala was one of the greatest goaltenders ever, so we'll give you Fleury and Malkin for Stajan and Toskala"

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FIRST - The problem with the Leafs goes far beyond goaltending at the moment.

SECOND - What in the blue hell are you smoking, to actually think that someone would take Toskala, or any of our players at the moment?? He's got ZERO, if not highly minimal trade value whatsoever at the moemnt, and if indeed his contract is done at the end of the season and that contract dump isn't a "big burden" on other teams why not just keep him, let his contract run out, say goodbye, and then reinvest the 4 million?

....i really wish some people would think before they posted.
you should take your own advice.

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Kiprusoff has averaged 75 starts a year since the lockout, they're not going to trade for a backup goalie making a pro-rated $4 mil a year for a pro-rated 7 starts a year.

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Okay, Leafs would take Jokinen then. I know taking on the extra salary is hard to bear but Leafs would do that favor.
When Calgary wanted to dump salary on the Leafs in Primeau they also needed to include a 2nd in 2011 and got young waiver wire dman Anton Stralman.

So in fairness then;

Leafs to dump salary on Calgary in Toskala we would need to include our 2nd in 2011, and get a young waiver dman like Staffan Kronwall in return.

Primeau full $1.3 mil salary at season beginning = ~ Toskala $$$ balance at trade deadline. Calgary replaces their earlier lost 2nd rounder.

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Kiprusoff has averaged 75 starts a year since the lockout, they're not going to trade for a backup goalie making a pro-rated $4 mil a year for a pro-rated 7 starts a year.
I thought the plan over there was clearly to lessen the burden on Kipper so that he has some steam left in the playoffs (especially since he will be playing for Finland in the Olympics as well).

Toskala will be getting a nice breather around the Olympics, so he could play some games afterwards to give Kipper a break.

It only makes sense to me.

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I thought the plan over there was clearly to lessen the burden on Kipper so that he has some steam left in the playoffs (especially since he will be playing for Finland in the Olympics as well).

Toskala will be getting a nice breather around the Olympics, so he could play some games afterwards to give Kipper a break.

It only makes sense to me.
I think even if they were serious about cutting his minutes, they'd go a cheaper route. Even sign a Manny Fernandez, who realistically could play not too bad behind the Calgary defense.

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Calgary won't be taking lots of salary with how close to the cap they already are. Sutter learned his lesson last year when he was forced to play games short players due to his inability to call up players.

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Okay, Leafs would take Jokinen then. I know taking on the extra salary is hard to bear but Leafs would do that favor.
the flames gave up this year's 1st-rounder for jokinen. no way they trade him for a $4 million backup who plays 5 games.

from a leafs standpoint, it'd be a steal.

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Her's how the deal might go down:


Day 1 Leafs waive Vesa Toskala
Day 2 Leafs Toskala clears waivers, Leafs send Toskala to AHL

10 minutes later:
Leafs put Vesa Toskala on re-entry waivers
Next day
Flames claim Vesa Toskala on re-entry waiver for 1/8th of his contract, or $500 000 for the remainder of the season.

For Toskala to play for the Flames, this would need to happen, but really, the Flames won't do this.

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I thought the plan over there was clearly to lessen the burden on Kipper so that he has some steam left in the playoffs (especially since he will be playing for Finland in the Olympics as well).

Toskala will be getting a nice breather around the Olympics, so he could play some games afterwards to give Kipper a break.

It only makes sense to me.

there are cheaper options that would provide similar results.

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It's been said, Kipprusoff is said to be playing a little less this year, but what is a little less, 70 games? 75 maybe? Why would they want Toskala, a high priced backup who was hasn't been the same since his tandem with Nabokov. McElhinney is not THAT terrible

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the flames gave up this year's 1st-rounder for jokinen. no way they trade him for a $4 million backup who plays 5 games.

from a leafs standpoint, it'd be a steal.
Well if you want to look at in terms of cost of acquisition then it cost the Leafs 1st, 2nd, 4th round picks + they had to eat $5 mil in salary dump and take Mark Bell also in the deal.

Leafs paid >>>>>> Toskala then Flames did for Jokinen.

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