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11-14-2009, 09:17 PM
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This is anything but Toskala's fault. The entire team did it to themselves before they even broke a sweat.
I'm sorry, who let in the key goal in the 3rd?.... oh wait, I know: VESA TOSKALA.

The guy who, even while we had pressure on the Flames in the 2nd looked shaky when the puck came down to our zone... prompted Healy (i think) to say "He's gotta wake up from his slumber" when there was some quick pressure in the 2nd, then it left as the Leafs continued to pressure Calgary.

Look, hear me: The Leafs lost this one b/c of Kipper and bad goaltending from BOTH and bad turnovers... but the key goal... the KEY GOAL was Vesa's fault. If you can't handle that reality that's not my issue. The facts are facts.

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11-14-2009, 09:19 PM
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I'm sorry, who let in the key goal in the 3rd?.... oh wait, I know: VESA TOSKALA.

The guy who, even while we had pressure on the Flames in the 2nd looked shaky when the puck came down to our zone... prompted Healy (i think) to say "He's gotta wake up from his slumber" when there was some quick pressure in the 2nd, then it left as the Leafs continued to pressure Calgary.

Look, hear me: The Leafs lost this one b/c of Kipper and bad goaltending from BOTH and bad turnovers... but the key goal... the KEY GOAL was Vesa's fault. If you can't handle that reality that's not my issue. The facts are facts.
Like I said blame Beauchemin and your own Johnny "Malkin" Mitchell for that goal.

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11-14-2009, 09:19 PM
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I don't really blame the goalies too much. Iginla is an elite player and he sniped both of his goals. The skaters have to know when he is on the ice and try to limit his space and time. But even then, he scores a lot of goals because his also very good at finding his space on the ice, just like Kessel.

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11-14-2009, 09:19 PM
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Gaghhh. Urrghh. Bluhkhhkjhsdkjasd.

Another crappy start for Toronto. They dominated the second, but they need to be able to finish more. They faced another hot goalie. Then again, no matter who they play, the goalie seems hot. I thought Beauchemin played maybe his best game - interesting he turned out to be a -4. I like the new look Kessel line (Poni - Stajan - Kessel). But most of all. . .

I'm sick of losing.

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Wow. I have no words. A game that we honestly should have... could have won thru 2, we lose b/c Toskala is the only goaltender in the league who is paid to NOT stop pucks. I'm befuddled and pretty p-oed actually. This was a winnable game. They we're playing great. Then Vesa showed up.

A real let down.
What the ****? Were we watching the same game here???

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11-14-2009, 09:21 PM
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Schenn has got to have a seat. The guy is cringe-worthy out there.

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11-14-2009, 09:21 PM
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I'm sorry, who let in the key goal in the 3rd?.... oh wait, I know: VESA TOSKALA.

The guy who, even while we had pressure on the Flames in the 2nd looked shaky when the puck came down to our zone... prompted Healy (i think) to say "He's gotta wake up from his slumber" when there was some quick pressure in the 2nd, then it left as the Leafs continued to pressure Calgary.

Look, hear me: The Leafs lost this one b/c of Kipper and bad goaltending from BOTH and bad turnovers... but the key goal... the KEY GOAL was Vesa's fault. If you can't handle that reality that's not my issue. The facts are facts.
You seem to forget Ignila took that shot, you know...he's a goal scorer right?

Blaming Toskala for the loss is ignorant.

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Gaghhh. Urrghh. Bluhkhhkjhsdkjasd.

Another crappy start for Toronto. They dominated the second, but they need to be able to finish more. They faced another hot goalie. Then again, no matter who they play, the goalie seems hot. I thought Beauchemin played maybe his best game - interesting he turned out to be a -4. I like the new look Kessel line (Poni - Stajan - Kessel). But most of all. . .

I'm sick of losing.



What the ****? Were we watching the same game here???
Yeah, but he was watching it through his Gustavsson coloured glasses.

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11-14-2009, 09:22 PM
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I'm sorry, who let in the key goal in the 3rd?.... oh wait, I know: VESA TOSKALA.

The guy who, even while we had pressure on the Flames in the 2nd looked shaky when the puck came down to our zone... prompted Healy (i think) to say "He's gotta wake up from his slumber" when there was some quick pressure in the 2nd, then it left as the Leafs continued to pressure Calgary.

Look, hear me: The Leafs lost this one b/c of Kipper and bad goaltending from BOTH and bad turnovers... but the key goal... the KEY GOAL was Vesa's fault. If you can't handle that reality that's not my issue. The facts are facts.
We should have just put you in net, maybe you would have easily made that save against a softie like Iginla.

And Healy is one to talk too.

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11-14-2009, 09:24 PM
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I have had enough of the "bread basket" Blake routine. The goalie isn't a bullseye.

Let Gunnarsson be an example to all the Tlusty apologists. You make the most of your chance, and you'll be rewarded.

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We should have just put you in net, maybe you would have easily made that save against a softie like Iginla.

And Healy is one to talk too.
If he was a Hawks fan he would have been jumping on Huet for letting in those rockets from Kessel.

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11-14-2009, 09:25 PM
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Send down Wallin, bring up Bozak, demote Johnny Malkin to 4th line center.
Whoever came up with Johnny Malkin is a genius. I can't get that nickname out of my head whenever I watch Mitchell play.

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11-14-2009, 09:26 PM
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Beauchemin is a pile of crap, TBH. I really expected him to be a solid, solid defenseman

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I thought GunnarSchenn™ was a good pairing. Schenn was better than yesterday, but that's not saying much.

By the way, just looked it up: Beauchemin was -3 not -4, though he was on the ice when Bouwmeester scored on the PP.

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You know what maybe RW is the problem.

He thought Finger was one of the best defenders in the west.

He sent Kadri down.

He chose Mayers over Kulemin

He thinks Stempniak is the best forward on the team.

He sent Gunnarasson to the minors.

He wouldn't give Stralman an even chance last year.

He said players got position on the big team based on last year when he said they had to earn their positions.

Gunnarsson comes up and is one of the 3 better defenders on the team, and yet he takes a back seat to a 19 year old who struggled preseason, struggled early and continues to struggle.

The country club attitude has not been changed in Toronto. The only change is the teacher's pets have been rotated.

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Beauchemin is a pile of crap, TBH. I really expected him to be a solid, solid defenseman
I guess the rumors were true. Hiding behind Pronger and Niedermayer. I expected at least a bit of defense this guy just pinches all the time.

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11-14-2009, 09:31 PM
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You know what maybe RW is the problem.

He thought Finger was one of the best defenders in the west.

He sent Kadri down.

He chose Mayers over Kulemin

He thinks Stempniak is the best forward on the team.

He sent Gunnarasson to the minors.

He wouldn't give Stralman an even chance last year.

He said players got position on the big team based on last year when he said they had to earn their positions.

Gunnarsson comes up and is one of the 3 better defenders on the team, and yet he takes a back seat to a 19 year old who struggled preseason, struggled early and continues to struggle.

The country club attitude has not been changed in Toronto. The only change is the teacher's pets have been rotated.

I want Wilson gone but like we have said before Burke wont fire his buddy especially with the Olympics. Good maybe that will Canada a bit.

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11-14-2009, 09:32 PM
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Beauchemin is a pile of crap, TBH. I really expected him to be a solid, solid defenseman
When you're partnered with Neidermayer or Pronger both former Norris winners they can make you look good.

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It's not our defence, it's that NOBODY beside you know who can finish. It's ridiculous how many chances we get and NOBODY can bloody bury anything. Possibly the worst finishing team in the league.

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11-14-2009, 09:35 PM
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If he was a Hawks fan he would have been jumping on Huet for letting in those rockets from Kessel.
Well as a Hawk fan the 1st goal by Kessel last night was weak but the 2nd was an amazing shot that Huet had no chance on

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Ugh....

Thats really all I can think of right now. Ugh.

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When you're partnered with Neidermayer or Pronger both former Norris winners they can make you look good.
I called him a depth defender, but was assured he was so much more. I hoped I was wrong.

Maybe with Gunnarsson taking more minutes Beauchemin can take his spot as a PP specialist and let the kids take over.

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Whoever came up with Johnny Malkin is a genius. I can't get that nickname out of my head whenever I watch Mitchell play.
Agreed, I think of it every shift he is on.

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The Leafs' record is now 3-10-5. That's 3 wins in 18 games. That's unreal.

What makes it doubly frustrating is that they haven't played nearly as badly as their record indicates, at least since the start of that five-game road trip a few weeks ago.

Of the 18 games they've played, they've actually probably been the better team in close to half of them. But a combination of shaky goaltending, inability to capitalize on chances, bad breaks, and brutal penalty-killing has really killed them.

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All I can hope for is Burke finally doing something. Blake needs to go, Mitchell needs to be put on the 4th line with Orr/Mayers/Primeau/Wallin. Really pick 3 of them and put them on that line and tell them to forecheck when they actually get a shift. Bring up the College guys and dump 3 of the guys currently in the top 9.

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Tough game to watch. I stepped in after it was 3-1 Flames... Leafs just aren't that great. But what kills me the most is the reluctance of Burke to bring guys up from the minors. We are not in the playoff race, we are in the middle of a lottery race. We are not holding onto anything. Make some changes, see if something new works. It's getting very frustrating to watch the losers on this team.

And I hate watching Kessel because he just shows what actual first line talent is. It brings tears to my eyes watching other players try to keep up to his level of play.

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