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11/15/09 Should the NHl consider moving to international sized ice?

View Poll Results: should the NHL consider moving to international sized ice?
Yes 23 34.85%
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Maybe 5 7.58%
I've never considered that, I need to give it more thought 2 3.03%
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11-15-2009, 07:36 AM
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11/15/09 Should the NHl consider moving to international sized ice?

I mentioned this before, its something that continues to be discussed by a colleague and I, and I'm curious what the thoughts are around here. My friend and I have concluded that we think it would speed the game up, but also encourage better and more skill development. We feel that it may also allow for fewer injuries. Thoughts? I do want to discuss this subject, but I'm on a fitness instruction course all day in Red Deer today

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No, the intensity and lack of space is what attracts me about the North American game. Basically the only reason I don't watch Swedish hockey is the larger sheet of ice.

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BB the link on the "Oilers attempt to justify PPV schedules" does not work....where did you see it? Thx for this btw.

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No. It would take away from the Canadian aspect of grit. However you would get a influx of more flashly highlights. I guess whatever you like more. I prefer a grittier game thus I'll stick with the smaller rinks.

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You'll have to look around for the full article.

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I voted other...I think Olympic is way too big, but current NHL is too small. I'd recommend somewhere's in the middle. The players have gotten bigger and faster, there needs to be more room.

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Yes I do, the game would be more about skill and a lot faster which would make it a lot more fun to watch for me. Youd basically also be taking the Boogaards and Laraques out of the game to which is also something I really want

If the NHL wants more goals this is the way to do it, quit messing with the goalies and their nets

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If it weren't so logistically ridiculous for the league economically, I'd be all for bigger rinks, 100%

I personally have a big problem with the north american hockey culture and how needlessly violent it is, but I guess that's a conversation that's been done a million times.

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Bigger, players have become to quick and big that I believe it crushes skill. Look at the NHL in the 80's .... there seemed to be more space and room, and that hockey was great.

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BB the link on the "Oilers attempt to justify PPV schedules" does not work....where did you see it? Thx for this btw.
sorry, I noticed that before I left, but I had to run. its from the bleacher report, and it gets blocked here.

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sorry, I noticed that before I left, but I had to run. its from the bleacher report, and it gets blocked here.
the bleacher report gets blocked for good reason

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as for the bigger ice


too late

could you imagine the NHL ripping out upwards of 1000 of its highest price seats?

IF they had floated this idea before about 50% of the teams got new arena--it might have worked

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as for the bigger ice


too late

could you imagine the NHL ripping out upwards of 1000 of its highest price seats?

IF they had floated this idea before about 50% of the teams got new arena--it might have worked
The current rinks would have to be grandfathered in, just the newer rinks would get the bigger ice. But how many new rinks are going to be built in the next 10-15 years?

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Bigger, players have become to quick and big that I believe it crushes skill. Look at the NHL in the 80's .... there seemed to be more space and room, and that hockey was great.
Technically the game in the 80s were awful. Poor goaltending, and pratically no defence.

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The game on big ice sucks. The Euro game is actually slower than the NA game right now. Yeah there's more room, but the defense just backs in anyway, and no one's scoring from the half boards when it's so far away from the net.

If you caught Pierre Lebrun on CBC last night, he pretty much echoes this. You might think the bigger ice leads to a faster game, but it doesn't.

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The current rinks would have to be grandfathered in, just the newer rinks would get the bigger ice. But how many new rinks are going to be built in the next 10-15 years?
how many teams have moved into new arena in the last 10-15 years? and Most arena are ment to last for 30


North east

Buffalo Y 1-0
Boston y 2-0
Ottawa y 3-0
Montreal y 4-0
Toronto y 5-0

Atlantic
New JErsey y 6-0
Pittsburgh Y 7-0
NY Rangers N 7-1(old barns finally get on the board)
Philly y 8-1
NYI N 8-2

Southeast

Washington y 9-2
Atlanta y 10-2
Tampa Bay y 11-2
Florida Y 12-2
Carolina y 13-2#

Centrel

Chicago y 14-2
Detroit n 14-3
CBJ's Y 15-3
NAShvile y 16-3
Blues y 17-3

SAn JOse Y 18-3
Phoenix Y 19-3
Dallas Y 20-3
LA Y 21-3
Ducks y 22-3

Northwest
Aves Y 23-3
Flmaes N 23-4
Nucks Y 24-4
Oilers N 24-5
Wild Y 26-5

So in the last 10 to 15 years there have been 26 new arenas--but early to be calling to replace them

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The game on big ice sucks. The Euro game is actually slower than the NA game right now. Yeah there's more room, but the defense just backs in anyway, and no one's scoring from the half boards when it's so far away from the net.

If you caught Pierre Lebrun on CBC last night, he pretty much echoes this. You might think the bigger ice leads to a faster game, but it doesn't.
How many European games have you been to or are you just fallowing what a pro-canadian talking head said

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how many teams have moved into new arena in the last 10-15 years? and Most arena are ment to last for 30


North east

Buffalo Y 1-0
Boston y 2-0
Ottawa y 3-0
Montreal y 4-0
Toronto y 5-0

Atlantic
New JErsey y 6-0
Pittsburgh Y 7-0
NY Rangers N 7-1(old barns finally get on the board)
Philly y 8-1
NYI N 8-2

Southeast

Washington y 9-2
Atlanta y 10-2
Tampa Bay y 11-2
Florida Y 12-2
Carolina y 13-2#

Centrel

Chicago y 14-2
Detroit n 14-3
CBJ's Y 15-3
NAShvile y 16-3
Blues y 17-3

SAn JOse Y 18-3
Phoenix Y 19-3
Dallas Y 20-3
LA Y 21-3
Ducks y 22-3

Northwest
Aves Y 23-3
Flmaes N 23-4
Nucks Y 24-4
Oilers N 24-5
Wild Y 26-5

So in the last 10 to 15 years there have been 26 new arenas--but early to be calling to replace them
What do those number mean ?

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What do those number mean ?
26 nhl teams are playing in arena built within the last 15 years

the team with Y's are playing in new buildings

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The game is awful on the big ice. Big no!!

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How many European games have you been to or are you just fallowing what a pro-canadian talking head said
It's not like we have not seen tourneys etc on the big ice. We are not living in the days of radio.

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The game on big ice sucks. The Euro game is actually slower than the NA game right now. Yeah there's more room, but the defense just backs in anyway, and no one's scoring from the half boards when it's so far away from the net.

If you caught Pierre Lebrun on CBC last night, he pretty much echoes this. You might think the bigger ice leads to a faster game, but it doesn't.
This. I think people in NA don't watch enough games on bigger ice to appreciate how much slower the European game is. I don't think it's just because of the lower overall quality of the players.

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The game is already ruined with the shootout so why not increase the rink size. Anything to make the game more of a joke I am sure Betman is in support of.

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The game is already ruined with the shootout so why not increase the rink size. Anything to make the game more of a joke I am sure Betman is in support of.
You think a bigger rink would make this more a joke league?

What about when Boston had the tiny rink? I still think that a larger playing surface would force better skill development, and it would force players to play their positions. I also think it would cut down on injuries and thus make a more enjoyable experience for Oilers fans.

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