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11-15-2009, 01:44 PM
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Komisarek Beauchemin tradable assets

JUST WOUNDERING if these guys are tradible assets given if gunnerson can keep up his play.i cant see him keeping up this play but we have a log jam at d and these 2 guys r premere d men.do they have no nmc..would 1 of them fetch a top 6 player????

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Doubtful we'd look to trade either. Gunnarson is playing on adrenaline, like most call-ups. We'll see how good he really is after he's played his first few games and his energy levels come down.

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OMG. you are kidding, right?

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To be honest, I wouldn't be disappointed to see Beauchemin traded but I doubt Burke does that after just handing him a contract. You can't alienate your potential free agent market when most likely it's going to be the only way for this team to improve.

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Not happening.

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Komisarek, while getting hate, has been good this year. He's a good player and he makes Kaberle a better player. I'd be upset to see him leave.

Beauchemin, eh, doesn't bother me either way.

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Kessel and Kadri are tradeable assets as well.

None of them are going anywhere.

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It's not gonna happen. It doesn't need to happen.

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I've been saying for a couple weeks that my belief is one of the two will be moved in the off season. What the return would be I couln't say but that's my assumption. We have too much salary tied up in the back end and we need to move some of that salary to the forward positions. Just my 2 cents

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JUST WOUNDERING if these guys are tradible assets given if gunnerson can keep up his play.i cant see him keeping up this play but we have a log jam at d and these 2 guys r premere d men.do they have no nmc..would 1 of them fetch a top 6 player????
These are Burke's hand picked guys and he signed them as UFA players and he plans to build around them not trade them..

It was interesting to hear Burke yesterday on AM640 radio interview, when he complemented Ian White saying he has likely been Leafs best Dman, and then praised Kaberle for his production and contribution.. Not a word about his boys Komisarek, Beauchemin or Exelby the players he brought in .. All 3 have under performed expectations for the most part this year.

Komi has a limited NTC in that every summer he has to give Burke a list of 10 teams he would accept a trade to.. Beauchemin does not have a NTC of any type.. Both players are overpaid, which is often the case of UFA process being inflationary to begin with.

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These are Burke's hand picked guys and he signed them as UFA players and he plans to build around them not trade them..

It was interesting to hear Burke yesterday on AM640 radio interview, when he complemented Ian White saying he has likely been Leafs best Dman, and then praised Kaberle for his production and contribution.. Not a word about his boys Komisarek, Beauchemin or Exelby the players he brought in .. All 3 have under performed expectations for the most part this year.

Komi has a limited NTC in that every summer he has to give Burke a list of 10 teams he would accept a trade to.. Beauchemin does not have a NTC of any type.. Both players are overpaid, which is often the case of UFA process being inflationary to begin with.
This is exactly why I believe one of the two will be moved. I'd sooner keep White then either one of these two. I'd also re sign Exelby as our 6th dman. Discounting White's raise that is surely coming I'd rather have the extra couple of million to spend on a new forward either through the trade or from free agency

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Beauchemin's trade value is very low at this point. He's been terrible all year.

I don't see us trading Komisarek. So, yeah. I don't see them as tradable assets.

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Not trolling: Both of them have really low trade value right now. They're worth more to the Leafs on the team than as an asset.

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If the price is right then I'd trade either of them. Not going to happen tho. At least, not at this time.

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I dont like the idea of trading away newly signed players with multi year contracts who have the right age having these kind of deals.
But if a top six centre could be had for Beauchemin then I think Burke would do the trade. Did he not say him self that he created a log jam on D to be able to trade one or two away for the right return since he thought there would be a demand for good defenders later on?

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imo this is a ridiculous thread. Burke isn't about to go and sign these players and then trade them away. he's too proud for that, and that would also send the wrong message to UFA's.

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imo this is a ridiculous thread. Burke isn't about to go and sign these players and then trade them away. he's too proud for that, and that would also send the wrong message to UFA's.
Agree some what about it can send out the wrong message to other UFA´s. But then again, Toronto handed them a multi million dollar contract and they will get paid that amount no matter what team they are on. But to sign guys around 30 who probably looking for some stability then it sends out the wrong message.

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OMG. you are kidding, right?


I just died at this reply, perfect response IMO. Unfortunately, since it is HFB and all, I have a feeling he wasn't kidding.

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Sign high priced UFA's and trade them less than a season into their contracts while both are wearing A's.

We might as well throw in the towel to ever signing a Free Agent that has any use to a team.

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Komisarek and Beauchemin are, in my opinion, the type of guys that you need to keep around on this team. They have experience and seem to be very good in the room - listen to Komisarek speak is very englightening.

The indications are, once the contracts expire on some veterans (and others are moved), that this is a team that is going to get younger . Therefore I think we need these types of guys to help keep them gruonded.

They have both played fairly decently, and I don't think that Burke is SO desperate to dump them away for picks

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Signing players and then trading them right away takes so much respect away from your organization. Can't do it if you ever want to see anybody sign here.

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they're not going anywhere

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See posts like this every year. Silly idea and I haven't seen it happen yet.

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komi and bauch are both tradeable assets. neither will be traded. both were selected by burke to be part of his team. i cant see him bailing on them now. burke is a players gm. he wont sell out one of his boys.

despite how you feel about them, kabs is playing his best hockey in years. coincidence that it just started once komi arrived? since komi has been sidelined whats kabs production been?

say what you want about beauch he is sill better the anything else we could possibly put in his spot

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