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11-15-2009, 03:35 PM
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The oilers are currently set to do worse then last yr.

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Anyone still convinced it was ALL Mactavish's fault?
No just mostly, this was a good game, just had some bad bounces and a couple bad decisions, it happens when you have this many injuries

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O'Sullivan needs a really good shrink. I'd say the Oilers should make him an appointment but, with his luck, he'd probably just miss it.
Sully needs to be traded ASAP.

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Anyone still convinced it was ALL Mactavish's fault?
Well I will say that some of his ideas, especially the collapse to the front of the net idea, are still haunting us.

What I don't understand is how the Oilers started the season with such energy and now play completely uninspired hockey.

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Man, I still can't believe POS missed that.

Less than 15 feet out, dead center of the slot, winds up a slapper instead of wristing it home...

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I'll tell you what won't be on the TV tomorrow--Oilers game.

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I didn't watch. But they lost to Hedberg? The oil definitely need a real overhaul.

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11-15-2009, 03:38 PM
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Suprised Quinn didn't change the PP units at all.

Both units weren't getting anything going and it was obvious pretty early.

I still think the answer is Gagner and Hemsky on the same unit. They overload the strong side because they are both RH shots. Gagner can play the half boards as well which allows Hemsky to move down low every now and then.

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You didn't watch the game?

I wouldn't say it's fair to comment on the Oilers performance today if you didn't watch the game.

They played decent today, outshot the Thrashers, generated some really good chances.

Hedberg played well and O'Sullivan won the game for the Thrashers.
I care about results. How many years have Oiler fans been saying that the team played well but still lost.
It seems we always have something...the flu, injuries, the refs cost us the game, and last but not least...the boys played well but couldn't quite pull it off.

I am not interested anymore in playing well and losing. I expect more from this management group and more from these coaches.
Maybe Oiler fans need to set their standards a little higher.
This is turning out to be the worst team in franchise history over the last 4 years.
Enough is enough.

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Top priorities heading into the off-season.

- Find a # 1 Center
- Find a top-six winger with size
How does this differ than any other year? Won't happen, need to build through the draft.

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Anyone still convinced it was ALL Mactavish's fault?
Sigh... The Oilers played pretty well and gave a great effort. They're actually working hard.

That just didn't happen under MacTavish win or lose.

We have to keep reminding ourselves of this over and over and over: For these guys, it's not about the record, or the playoffs, or any of that. It's about learning how to play the game properly after years of poor tutelage.

They are getting better. They're starting to outshoot, they're starting to support each other, they're starting to understand what it takes.

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11-15-2009, 03:40 PM
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Good thing Katz's ownership was the ticket to success.
It was the previous ownership that set this team back many, many years. Lowe, who was put into position by the previous ownership, giving the big bucks to players that have no business getting the money they got.

Jury is still out on the current ownership, but I don't blame Katz for the current situation. He wasn't going to clean up this train wreck team in a year or two--that expectation was unrealistic.

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Top priorities heading into the off-season.

- Find a # 1 Center
- Find a top-six winger with size
Really? I'd have to get rid of the ton of dead weight this team seems to have.

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O'Sullivan obviously can score. You don't score 47 goals in the AHL without having some finish.

He is just fighting it right now
Yep. His game is all there. He gets more quality chances than anyone on this team, including Penner. I seriously think he needs some help from a really good sports psychologist right now though. You can see how frustrated he is - and that's just making the problem worse.

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11-15-2009, 03:41 PM
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- Find a # 1 Center
- Find a top-six winger with size
Don't we have a top 6 winger with size?

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Sigh... The Oilers played pretty well and gave a great effort. They're actually working hard.

That just didn't happen under MacTavish win or lose.

We have to keep reminding ourselves of this over and over and over: For these guys, it's not about the record, or the playoffs, or any of that. It's about learning how to play the game properly after years of poor tutelage.

They are getting better. They're starting to outshoot, they're starting to support each other, they're starting to understand what it takes.


Excuses Excuses Excuses.

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11-15-2009, 03:42 PM
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I care about results. How many years have Oiler fans been saying that the team played well but still lost.
Are you delusional? The Oilers haven't played well and lost in recent history until this year. Last year? They were lucky to win the games they did!

I agree, excuses are useless. But the reality is, we just watched a game in which the Oilers were very much in it, and were working hard each shift. That is an improvement over previous years.

Again, people who thought this team would contend for the playoffs and make some miracle turnaround... I just don't know where their heads are at.

This. Will. Take. Time.

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You didn't watch the game?

I wouldn't say it's fair to comment on the Oilers performance today if you didn't watch the game.

They played decent today, outshot the Thrashers, generated some really good chances.

Hedberg played well and O'Sullivan won the game for the Thrashers.
Yeah, I didnt think we were that bad. First game in a month with Souray in the lineup and they looked disjointed. Its just when they made mistakes, they were glaring and really dumb.

Having Souray back and getting into his groove eventually will help.

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Excuses Excuses Excuses.
I'm not sure you know the definition of the word "excuse".

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Our last 11 games we are 2-8-1

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You can't blame yourself in the third person.
It makes me feel better if I can refer to myself as someone else. It's just like referring to "us" when the Oilers win and "them" when they lose.

Goddammit it Soli!

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Sigh... The Oilers played pretty well and gave a great effort. They're actually working hard.

That just didn't happen under MacTavish win or lose.

We have to keep reminding ourselves of this over and over and over: For these guys, it's not about the record, or the playoffs, or any of that. It's about learning how to play the game properly after years of poor tutelage.

They are getting better. They're starting to outshoot, they're starting to support each other, they're starting to understand what it takes.
I'd tend to agree with most of this. It's going to take a while to right this ship, as frustrating as that may be. They're awful right now, but not as awful as they looked most of the time in the last couple of years. They're competing more, but the high-end talent just isn't there. There's still some bad habits they have to get rid of.

It's just so frustrating because it's been 20 years since this team has finished in the top 4 of the conference, and it looks like it's going to be atleast 2 or 3 years before they are even close to pulling that off again. Bleh.

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I'm not sure you know the definition of the word "excuse".

Explain to me how is this team is getting better.It actually seems like the team is getting worse not better.

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It was the previous ownership that set this team back many, many years. Lowe, who was put into position by the previous ownership, giving the big bucks to players that have no business getting the money they got.

Jury is still out on the current ownership, but I don't blame Katz for the current situation. He wasn't going to clean up this train wreck team in a year or two--that expectation was unrealistic.
Any owner that decides to get personally involved in decisions over player recruitment is an owner that doesn't understand the recipe for success.

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How long will we have to suffer this Captain. Another offensive zone penalty that costs us points.

Nice to see everyone patting themselves on the back about Mactavish. If you cant understand why he was bad for this team then I dont expect you to understand why dumping on this coaching staff right now would be a mistake.

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