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11-15-2009, 03:46 PM
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Top priorities heading into the off-season.

- Find a # 1 Center
- Find a top-six winger with size
Well they are alrady paying horcoff number 1 center money--so i don't see how the will be able to afford another 5million center

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11-15-2009, 03:47 PM
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Explain to me how is this team is getting better.It actually seems like the team is getting worse not better.
Well then I'm inclined to believe one of two things:

1. You aren't watching the games
2. You are watching the games, you just have very little hockey knowledge

So which is it?

Also, nothing I mentioned was an excuse. At all. So again, I suggest you look up the definition of "excuse" (noun).

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11-15-2009, 03:48 PM
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Sigh... The Oilers played pretty well and gave a great effort. They're actually working hard.

That just didn't happen under MacTavish win or lose.

We have to keep reminding ourselves of this over and over and over: For these guys, it's not about the record, or the playoffs, or any of that. It's about learning how to play the game properly after years of poor tutelage.

They are getting better. They're starting to outshoot, they're starting to support each other, they're starting to understand what it takes.

I agree, people are just too damn fickle around here, i'm not even going to pay attention to the sky is falling nonsense today.....As for the game, the Oilers played well, they're getting there, they're getting healthy and just need to get the chemistry back. I personally like what i'm seeing from them but two things, Horcoff has got to bury that one timer and i'm EXTREMELY worried about O'Sullivan, he just doesn't know how to finish chances (the same thing that King fans were complaining about), how did he miss the net in the third? Otherwise, i like the effort level and i'm not going to trash this team like some people are doing here, i'd like to let the season play out and see how they play as a relatively healthy unit.

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11-15-2009, 03:49 PM
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It is early in the season. Our hot start got everyones expectations up. This team is hurting big time, and has experienced some bad luck (tonight, last game, against Calgary, etc).

Best case, and you cannot tell me you thought different, we are a team that turns it on after December a'la CLB or STL and barely makes the playoffs.

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11-15-2009, 03:49 PM
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Sigh... The Oilers played pretty well and gave a great effort. They're actually working hard.

That just didn't happen under MacTavish win or lose.

Look at you...rewriting history.

If you are serious about, oiler never playing well or with effort under MacT...then you are clearly delusional or have memory loss.

please.

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11-15-2009, 03:49 PM
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Are you delusional? The Oilers haven't played well and lost in recent history until this year. Last year? They were lucky to win the games they did!

I agree, excuses are useless. But the reality is, we just watched a game in which the Oilers were very much in it, and were working hard each shift. That is an improvement over previous years.

Again, people who thought this team would contend for the playoffs and make some miracle turnaround... I just don't know where their heads are at.

This. Will. Take. Time.

This. Team. Has. Had. 4. Years.

Maybe take a minute to look at how successful this team has been for the last 4 seasons.
Contending for playoff spot in the Cap era doesn't take 4 years unless the organization is completely inept.

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What I don't understand is how the Oilers started the season with such energy and now play completely uninspired hockey.
This is completely unfair and you know it.

That was a pretty good game. Far from uninspired. Uninspired was last year. This year, they at least play like they care.

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11-15-2009, 03:50 PM
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It was the previous ownership that set this team back many, many years. Lowe, who was put into position by the previous ownership, giving the big bucks to players that have no business getting the money they got.

Jury is still out on the current ownership, but I don't blame Katz for the current situation. He wasn't going to clean up this train wreck team in a year or two--that expectation was unrealistic.
Speaking about EIG, they wouldn't let Lowe rebuild when he wanted to. EIG threatened Lowe that they'd fire him in 2007 if he didn't do something. That's why the OS was tendered to Vanek and Penner. Lowe didn't want to do an OS but because he was threatened to be fired. That's also whey Souray was signed. EIG is the reason for the team's struggles. Cal Nichols stepped in to protect Lowe from being fired.

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Any owner that decides to get personally involved in decisions over player recruitment is an owner that doesn't understand the recipe for success.
Yeah, because getting Hossa would've been terrible for this team. Good call.

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11-15-2009, 03:51 PM
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As much as I HATE watching the Oilers lose, I am starting to get encouraged.

Souray's back!

Horcoff is back and played well tonight.

Staios has been a much better player since his return.

Cogliano and Brule looked very good today.

We are getting healthier

The team, though still having a long way to go is starting to play better and is losing games they should win instead of winning games they should lose. In the long run that means something.

The Oilers could easily be 3-1 on this trip so far... not bad.

As sick as I am of watching the failure that has been the past 3 years, I still feel this team is close to turning it around.

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11-15-2009, 03:52 PM
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What a pile of hockey crap.

Who cares how well they play. They cannot win games and that's all that matters.

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11-15-2009, 03:53 PM
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Yeah, because getting Hossa would've been terrible for this team. Good call.
Yeah...Laraque would have turned this team into a winner for sure.
I can see why Katz personally negotiated with Georges without the help of his GM.

Smart move.

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This. Team. Has. Had. 4. Years.

Maybe take a minute to look at how successful this team has been for the last 4 seasons.
Contending for playoff spot in the Cap era doesn't take 4 years unless the organization is completely inept.
4 years?! We're 20 games in to a whole new regime!

I agree with you, things were bad, we had really poor coaching, and some so-so roster decisions.

But just watch the games. Things are getting better.

I mean take a step back for a moment... We just watched a 1 goal game, on the road, where the Oilers had momentum for much of the game, had more pressure in the offensive zone, and for the most part had very good performances throughout the line up.

And you're picking this game as your cut off point? Enough is enough?!! That's just absurd!

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Well then I'm inclined to believe one of two things:

1. You aren't watching the games
2. You are watching the games, you just have very little hockey knowledge

So which is it?

Also, nothing I mentioned was an excuse. At all. So again, I suggest you look up the definition of "excuse" (noun).


We continue to have turnovers,We can't score on the power play when we need it,Wide open net and we shoot it over the net.Our captain takes a stupid penalty.

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11-15-2009, 03:55 PM
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All that this team is doing better is at outshooting the opponent.

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And you're picking this game as your cut off point? Enough is enough?!! That's just absurd!
Actually, I'd say that 2-8-1 is a good 'cut off point'.

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11-15-2009, 03:56 PM
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4 years?! We're 20 games in to a whole new regime!

I agree with you, things were bad, we had really poor coaching, and some so-so roster decisions.

But just watch the games. Things are getting better.

I mean take a step back for a moment... We just watched a 1 goal game, on the road, where the Oilers had momentum for much of the game, had more pressure in the offensive zone, and for the most part had very good performances throughout the line up.

And you're picking this game as your cut off point? Enough is enough?!! That's just absurd!
New regime?
The players are the same. If you really believe the only thing Quinn needs to spin crap into gold is time, then you are the one that's delusional.

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Had Atlanta buried all of their chances it could have been 5-2 6-2 .

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All that this team is doing better is at outshooting the opponent.
Baby steps. First you start outshooting, next step is out scoring. It's not all gloom and doom people.

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Actually, I'd say that 2-8-1 is a good 'cut off point'.


Soon to be 2-9-1 after tommorrow night.

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It's pretty obvious we can't win when we outshoot our opponents.

I'd like to say I'm joking but the stats are bearing it out right now...0-3.

Sorry to inform you that we don't have a lot of success when we get outshot either.

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11-15-2009, 03:59 PM
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Some changes are in order.....

Penner-Brule-Hemsky
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Potulny-Gagner-Cogliano
Moreau-Comrie-Stortini

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Baby steps. First you start outshooting, next step is out scoring. It's not all gloom and doom people.

By the time this team finally gets it's **** together,the season will be half over.

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Speaking about EIG, they wouldn't let Lowe rebuild when he wanted to. EIG threatened Lowe that they'd fire him in 2007 if he didn't do something. That's why the OS was tendered to Vanek and Penner. Lowe didn't want to do an OS but because he was threatened to be fired. That's also whey Souray was signed. EIG is the reason for the team's struggles. Cal Nichols stepped in to protect Lowe from being fired.

I take it you have some inside proof or links of this?

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