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11-19-2009, 02:40 PM
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Right, you give to get and hopefully the Pronger trade works out in the long-run (I think it requires that we have multiple deep playoff runs). But missing Sbisa is perfectly valid in this context, cuz I do think he's going to be a good D.
I think he's going to be good too, and I wish we still had his rights. However, I'm perfectly fine with the club going for it now, then waiting for 5 years and seeing how things would have panned out. I can't see why we shouldn't take multiple deep runs, and with some luck *knocks wood* win a Stanley Cup. Granted it's no guarantee, but Pronger helps this team now more than Sbisa ever would.

On the topic of the thread -- I wish Brashear would stayed longer.

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11-19-2009, 02:41 PM
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Steve Downie

2 goals, 5pts, 44 PIMS in 18 games

A real headturner.


Dean McAmmond agrees.

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11-19-2009, 02:43 PM
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Dean McAmmond agrees.
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11-19-2009, 02:43 PM
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Eh...Carcillo is the only one close to the "anything might happen at any moment" quality that Downie brought with him, and while I have my qualms about Carcillo he isn't completely bat**** like I think Downie can be at times.
The 'craziness' is why I didn't want Carcillo here in the first place. I don't really view it as a positive quality and it's why I wasn't really upset that Downie was traded.

Downie may have more skill, but I believe he won't reach his potential. Where Downie currently excels is in his hard work along the boards. Asham, Lappy, Betts and Carcillo all do this well, so Downie isn't needed on this roster.

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11-19-2009, 02:54 PM
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Really?

That dude wasn't good enough to make our current roster.
Patrick Thoresen? Flyers did a mistake there and only offered him a two-way. Now he has huge success in Russia, earns a ton of money but says he's lonely because he doesn't speak the language. His nuts seems to be okay too, made an addition to his family since that accident as a Flyer when a puck almost made him a woman

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11-19-2009, 02:59 PM
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Patrick Thoresen? Flyers did a mistake there and only offered him a two-way. Now he has huge success in Russia, earns a ton of money but says he's lonely because he doesn't speak the language. His nuts seems to be okay too, made an addition to his family since that accident as a Flyer when a puck almost made him a woman
No, they really didn't. Thor was a decent energy guy but doesn't have the skillset for NHL success. He has hands of stone which is sad because he has the talent to get into position for some great scoring chances. But he'll always do well in lesser leagues like Russia.

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11-19-2009, 02:59 PM
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Patrick Thoresen? Flyers did a mistake there and only offered him a two-way. Now he has huge success in Russia, earns a ton of money but says he's lonely because he doesn't speak the language. His nuts seems to be okay too, made an addition to his family since that accident as a Flyer when a puck almost made him a woman
Not that lonely, apparently

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11-19-2009, 03:01 PM
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Patrick Thoresen? Flyers did a mistake there and only offered him a two-way. Now he has huge success in Russia, earns a ton of money but says he's lonely because he doesn't speak the language. His nuts seems to be okay too, made an addition to his family since that accident as a Flyer when a puck almost made him a woman
When I was poking around stats a few weeks ago, he was a PPG (barely under) player.

Colour me impressed.

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11-19-2009, 03:03 PM
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I know we're already far too deep at center but reality aside, I'd love to have Umberger back.
Maybe Umberger heads our way before you know it. Hitch just sent a great talent like Nikita Filatov back to Russia

Speaking of Steve Downie, I can't believe the Flyers could let go of a fighter. Did he dump in Homer's shoes or something?

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11-19-2009, 03:07 PM
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When I was poking around stats a few weeks ago, he was a PPG (barely under) player.

Colour me impressed.
Why? That isn't out of the ordinary. At every level except the NHL he's had success. In Juniors, in Swedish leagues, in Norway, in the AHL.

He just can't handle the NHL. Maybe when he is 28 or 29 he'll come back and be successful.

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11-19-2009, 03:14 PM
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Why? That isn't out of the ordinary. At every level except the NHL he's had success. In Juniors, in Swedish leagues, in Norway, in the AHL.

He just can't handle the NHL. Maybe when he is 28 or 29 he'll come back and be successful.
I didn't realize he was THAT successful away from the NHL in other leagues.

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11-19-2009, 03:23 PM
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I didn't realize he was THAT successful away from the NHL in other leagues.
Yeah, here are his stats from hockey reference (which I am sure that you've already checked out.)

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...thorepa01.html

Also, guess which Norwegian put up 40 goals in the NHL?

Still thinking?

Trick question! The answer is: All of them. Put together. Over their entire careers. At least South Korea has Richard Park. Who, by himself, eclipses the entirety of Norwegian hockey. And he's an Islander.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/friv...ovince=&state=

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11-19-2009, 03:26 PM
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Yeah, here are his stats from hockey reference (which I am sure that you've already checked out.)

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...thorepa01.html

Also, guess which Norwegian put up 40 goals in the NHL?

Still thinking?

Trick question! The answer is: All of them. Put together. Over their entire careers. At least South Korea has Richard Park. Who, by himself, eclipses the entirety of Norwegian hockey. And he's an Islander.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/friv...ovince=&state=
Two NHL players were born in Venezuela and combined for 29 goals. Neat.

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11-19-2009, 03:28 PM
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I don't know why, I always liked Thor. I always thought he played better than his point totals showed and I would have liked to keep him at least on the phantoms.

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11-19-2009, 03:32 PM
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Little hockey interest in Norway, it's all about soccer. Also blame it on the low number of rinks, but they're now starting to build several big hockey arenas around the country, about time.

There are some good Norwegian hockey players, but they all play in Sweden.

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11-19-2009, 03:50 PM
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11-19-2009, 03:52 PM
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I wish Steve Downie was still here too. He was one of my favorite players, even though he wasn't that great.

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11-19-2009, 04:05 PM
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Little hockey interest in Norway, it's all about soccer. Also blame it on the low number of rinks, but they're now starting to build several big hockey arenas around the country, about time.

There are some good Norwegian hockey players, but they all play in Sweden.
God, I hate soccer.

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11-19-2009, 04:23 PM
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Patrick Sharp, Roman Cechmanek, Justin Williams, Dainius Zubrus, and Dmitri Tertyshny (RIP)

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11-19-2009, 04:42 PM
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Not that he was traded, but I wish Desjardins could have played a bit longer/didn't get hurt at the end of his career. He might very well could still be playing since he's only 40.

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11-19-2009, 04:43 PM
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God, I hate soccer.

/rant
If that is your idea of rant, then you better grow a pair Senor Rojo.

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11-19-2009, 04:47 PM
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would have liked to have kept recchi after the lockout. he had gas in the tank and we just left him out in the cold.

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11-19-2009, 04:53 PM
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If that is your idea of rant, then you better grow a pair Senor Rojo.


If this site had reputation points, you'd have earned a few on this.

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11-19-2009, 04:57 PM
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He's also not as skilled as Downie is, especially along the boards. If I had my choice between one crazy ****er vs the other one, I'd go with Downie any day.
I'll take Carcillo's skating speed over Downie's board work anytime.

I know you really hate Carcillo, and I can appreciate it because he chopped so many K-Rangers, but he's having a much bigger impact on the games than Downie is.

Carcillo excels at covering his points, getting the puck out of the zone, nice little passes to his linemates or back to the D - and he almost always gets the puck deep if he has no other options with it. And unlike Downie he can and will fight heavyweights.

Downie missed assignments, coughed up the puck in his own zone and, just didn't give the impression he was ever going to get it. Carcillo is taking to Lappy's tutelage and, as a result, we have a 'fourth' line that can play against almost anyone. Not many teams have that luxury.

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11-19-2009, 05:04 PM
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I'll take Carcillo's skating speed over Downie's board work anytime.

I know you really hate Carcillo, and I can appreciate it because he chopped so many K-Rangers, but he's having a much bigger impact on the games than Downie is.

Carcillo excels at covering his points, getting the puck out of the zone, nice little passes to his linemates or back to the D - and he almost always gets the puck deep if he has no other options with it. And unlike Downie he can and will fight heavyweights.

Downie missed assignments, coughed up the puck in his own zone and, just didn't give the impression he was ever going to get it. Carcillo is taking to Lappy's tutelage and, as a result, we have a 'fourth' line that can play against almost anyone. Not many teams have that luxury.
A rookie made mistakes? Shocking. Who's to say Downie wouldn't be taking to Lappy's tutelage?

But anywho...true, Carcillo has really come around this year. I've been impressed. But can and will fight heavyweights? Check his fight card. On top of which the guy has been completely neutered this year.

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