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11-23-2009, 10:52 AM
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I remember it, I'm just trying to figure out how it relates to this thread in the slightest.
It makes me question whether or not you understand the ins and outs of the game of hockey. I still play at a decently competitive level of hockey, and most of my teammates dip. A lot of the players I played with previously that have moved on to high-level juniors and college dip.

As far as this thread goes, for example, if my team knows that someone on the other team has bruised ribs (for the sake of argument), you better believe we're going to be playing the body on that guy as much as possible with an emphasis towards his upper body. It's not about being dirty, it's about exploiting any possible advantage you can.

I'm not involved in the NHL, obviously, but I would bet a lot of money that the other teams have no idea what Smyth's, Stoll's, or Scuderi's injuries are. The Kings are going to keep those as secret as possible for the exact reason I just stated. It's not BS; it's the way it is.

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11-23-2009, 10:53 AM
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I remember it, I'm just trying to figure out how it relates to this thread in the slightest.
maybe because it's just as ridiculous?

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I'd like to see this too. Richardson has earned a shot lets see if he can make something of this opportunity.



Does it really matter? What kind of analysis could you make if you knew what it is? Are you a doctor? I mean if the guy has a broken ankle, does that make you feel better that you know it is broken? They usually give you a timeline so it isn't like you are left in the dark.
isn't lewis injured?

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11-23-2009, 10:57 AM
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Kings are being cheap as usual....Look at the Flyers...Betts goes down and they call up 2 forwards and the Sharks have some injuries and call some guys up...the Kings were playing with no spare parts and still haven't called anyone up...sigh.
This is what I alluded too earlier when I questioned whether our early season success overshadowed a lack of depth on this team. I think it has!

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11-23-2009, 10:58 AM
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isn't lewis injured?
Oops! I was actually just referencing the Richardson part. Man who is going to play on the 4th line?

Maybe Terry Murray will listen to Kurrilino and put Purcell as the second line center?

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11-23-2009, 11:06 AM
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The Hawks have a more experienced D core. Keith, Seabrook, etc. are around 25 years old. The Kings will turn a corner when Doughty, JJ, Hickey etc. get a few years under their belt.
(in my best Jim Mora voice)

"Hickey?"

"HICKEY?"

"You're talking Hickey?"

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11-23-2009, 12:09 PM
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My friend in Manchester says Andrei Loktionov and Brandon Segal are packing their bags and heading to the show.

Loktionov, 6 goals and 11 assists in 17 games while Segal has 6 goals and 8 assists in 21 games.

More as it develops.

From CBGB.

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11-23-2009, 12:15 PM
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(in my best Jim Mora voice)

"Hickey?"

"HICKEY?"

"You're talking Hickey?"
Hickey needs more time in Manchester. 15 games played, 0 goals, 5 assists, -1 with 23 shots on goal. In order to be called up IMO you need to be setting the place on fire which Hickey has not done so far. Right now the 2 names that stand out statistically in Manchester are Bernier and Loktionov.

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11-23-2009, 12:15 PM
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My friend in Manchester says Andrei Loktionov and Brandon Segal are packing their bags and heading to the show.

Loktionov, 6 goals and 11 assists in 17 games while Segal has 6 goals and 8 assists in 21 games.

More as it develops.

From CBGB.
That's good news if it's true. I'm equally excited to see both of these guys.

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11-23-2009, 12:24 PM
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Let's hope they can make an impact. I would hope Loktionov is given top six minutes. The lines I'd like to see:

Purcell-Kopitar-Williams
Frolov-Loktionov-Brown
Parse-Handzus-Simmonds
Ivanans-Richardson-Harrold/Segal

I have grown impatient with Purcell, so now is put up or shut up time for him. See what he can do playing on the top line. If he can't keep up, then he just doesn't belong on this team or in the NHL.

Brown (and Frolov) will get a creative playmaker to play with for once. Let's see what they can do.

Parse is the perfect fit for the checking line, now they just need to get Simmonds back to playing an aggressive game.

The fourth line is what it is.

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11-23-2009, 12:28 PM
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Hickey needs more time in Manchester. 15 games played, 0 goals, 5 assists, -1 with 23 shots on goal. In order to be called up IMO you need to be setting the place on fire which Hickey has not done so far. Right now the 2 names that stand out statistically in Manchester are Bernier and Loktionov.
Don't forget Moller. Hopefully when the Purcell experiment is over they will give Moller a serious look at the top six. Seems like Bud Holloway is having a decent season in Manchester as well.

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11-23-2009, 12:37 PM
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Lokti needs to get minutes, but going on history he'll center Ivanans and Harrold.

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I think Lokti may start out as the 4th line center especially since Richardson has been practicing with the 2nd line. However, I do think that Lokti will get a look at 2nd line as well.

Ziggy, that's a pretty good lineup. A part of me still wants to bump up Zeus to the 2nd line to reunite with Brown and Fro but I'm equally excited to see what Lokti can do with some skilled players.

I think with Lokti and Segal possibly coming up, the monarchs are pretty depleted with the promotions and all the injuries.

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I do think Parse could be a great long term 3rd- or 4th-liner if he keeps up his energy level.

I haven't seen much of his play, but if his game translates, Segal could be great down there as well. For some reason, Parse-Richardson-Segal sounds like a much-improved 4th line to me.

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Let's hope they can make an impact. I would hope Loktionov is given top six minutes. The lines I'd like to see:

Purcell-Kopitar-Williams
Frolov-Loktionov-Brown
Parse-Handzus-Simmonds
Ivanans-Richardson-Harrold/Segal

I have grown impatient with Purcell, so now is put up or shut up time for him. See what he can do playing on the top line. If he can't keep up, then he just doesn't belong on this team or in the NHL.

Brown (and Frolov) will get a creative playmaker to play with for once. Let's see what they can do.

Parse is the perfect fit for the checking line, now they just need to get Simmonds back to playing an aggressive game.

The fourth line is what it is.
Actually, I really like this.

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Actually, I really like this.
Me 3. Although I would be highly wary of Purcell on the first line and would kind of prefer Parse and Purcell switched. However that does make the checking line weaker as a checking line, so its a tough choice.

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Let's hope they can make an impact. I would hope Loktionov is given top six minutes. The lines I'd like to see:

Purcell-Kopitar-Williams
Frolov-Loktionov-Brown
Parse-Handzus-Simmonds
Ivanans-Richardson-Harrold/Segal

I have grown impatient with Purcell, so now is put up or shut up time for him. See what he can do playing on the top line. If he can't keep up, then he just doesn't belong on this team or in the NHL.

Brown (and Frolov) will get a creative playmaker to play with for once. Let's see what they can do.

Parse is the perfect fit for the checking line, now they just need to get Simmonds back to playing an aggressive game.

The fourth line is what it is.
I like your line up but here's a twist on mine.

Purcell-Kopitar-Brown - Maybe this will give Brown a jump.
Parse-Loktinov-Williams - Williams will bring stability.
Frolov-Handzus-Segal
Ivanans-Richardson-Simmonds - gives our 4th linea boost of energy

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I like your line up but here's a twist on mine.

Purcell-Kopitar-Brown - Maybe this will give Brown a jump.
Parse-Loktinov-Williams - Williams will bring stability.
Frolov-Handzus-Segal
Ivanans-Richardson-Simmonds - gives our 4th linea boost of energy
So basically you gib the top line to give the second line some notion of stability?

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So basically you gib the top line to give the second line some notion of stability?
Maybe stabilty isn't the right word. But Williams with Parse and Lokti as center. What's wrong with line?

Edit: Keep in mind Brown and Kopitar have good chemistry in the past I thought.

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Let's hope they can make an impact. I would hope Loktionov is given top six minutes. The lines I'd like to see:

Purcell-Kopitar-Williams
Frolov-Loktionov-Brown
Parse-Handzus-Simmonds
Ivanans-Richardson-Harrold/Segal

I have grown impatient with Purcell, so now is put up or shut up time for him. See what he can do playing on the top line. If he can't keep up, then he just doesn't belong on this team or in the NHL.

Brown (and Frolov) will get a creative playmaker to play with for once. Let's see what they can do.

Parse is the perfect fit for the checking line, now they just need to get Simmonds back to playing an aggressive game.

The fourth line is what it is.
I LOVE these Lines!

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Maybe stabilty isn't the right word. But Williams with Parse and Lokti as center. What's wrong with line?

Edit: Keep in mind Brown and Kopitar have good chemistry in the past I thought.
But what makes an effective line isn't 2/3. It's 3/3. I don't think Purcell has shown he can hack it.

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Sorry to break it to you guys but no way they move Purcell up to the top line after the way he has played.

I gotta believe it's gonna be...

Frolov-Kopitar-Williams
Parse-Loktionov-Brown
Ivanans-Purcell-Simmonds
Purcell-Richardson-Segal

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But what makes an effective line isn't 2/3. It's 3/3. I don't think Purcell has shown he can hack it.
What do you suggest then? What would your lineup look like?

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But what makes an effective line isn't 2/3. It's 3/3. I don't think Purcell has shown he can hack it.
You can knock Purcell all you want but having him on a checking line is a waste of time. He's one of the few skilled players that kings have and he deserves to be on a top 2 line.

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Sorry to break it to you guys but no way they move Purcell up to the top line after the way he has played.

I gotta believe it's gonna be...

Frolov-Kopitar-Williams
Parse-Loktionov-Brown
Ivanans-Purcell-Simmonds
Purcell-Richardson-Segal
Purcell's so good we got two of him.......I kid I kid.

I would maybe switch Ivanans and Purcell but Idk if TM would.

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I have made it clear that I am not a big fan of Teddy Purcell, however, as someone has already stated, he is a waste on the bottom two lines. He needs to be put in an offensive role, otherwise, there is no point in having him in the lineup.

As I stated in my reasoning for the lines I proposed, it is put up or shut up time for Purcell. Make the most of your opportunity, or, return to the minors from whence you came!

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