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11-22-2009, 03:06 PM
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To Toronto: Anaheim's 1st 2010 (currently 3rd overall), Joffrey Lupul, Nick Boynton and Mark Mitera

To Anaheim: Tomas Kaberle

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11-22-2009, 03:10 PM
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To Toronto: Anaheim's 1st 2010 (currently 3rd overall), Joffrey Lupul, Nick Boynton and Mark Mitera

To Anaheim: Tomas Kaberle
wayyyyy to much from ANA

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A 1st + a good roster player + a good prospect. This is a decent offer, but I'm very hesitant to deal Kaberle.

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11-22-2009, 03:15 PM
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Take out Mitera and it's a little better

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Anaheim's 1st would not be a top 5 pick. The addition of Kaberle will help the Ducks climb up the standings.

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how could you call yourself a ducks fan?

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Thats a huge overpayment. Change it to the Flyers first and it's closer.

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11-22-2009, 03:25 PM
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The 3rd overall, a decent prospect and a salary dump for Kabs and a mid level pick is all I'd offer. The 3rd overall pick could be a franchise player someday. Dont trade that for a player that is already 31 y.o., regardless of salary or skill.

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11-22-2009, 03:27 PM
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how could you call yourself a ducks fan?
- Anaheim's 1st would not be a top 10 pick, let alone top 5. The addition of Kaberle is exactly what the Ducks need.
- Lupul is not a top 6 winger. He is an overpaid "sniper." His value is minimal.
- Nick Boynton is a #6-7 defense man.
- Mark Mitera had a disappointing camp. He is slower than molasses going uphill in January. I'll be shocked if he ever becomes something more than a #5-6 defense man.

Ryan - Getzlaf - Perry
Artyukhin - Koivu - Selanne

Niedermayer - Kaberle
Whitney - Wisniewski

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The 3rd overall, a decent prospect and a salary dump for Kabs and a mid level pick is all I'd offer. The 3rd overall pick could be a franchise player someday. Dont trade that for a player that is already 31 y.o., regardless of salary or skill.
It won't be a third overall pick by the end of the year, especially with Kaberle on the Ducks.

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The 3rd overall, a decent prospect and a salary dump for Kabs and a mid level pick is all I'd offer. The 3rd overall pick could be a franchise player someday. Dont trade that for a player that is already 31 y.o., regardless of salary or skill.
3rd overall currently.

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No, because the 1st will undoubtably go up, and that is the only thing of significant interest coming Toronto's way. They could likely get more quality in another deal.

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11-22-2009, 03:41 PM
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3rd overall currently.
Then Burkie wouldnt do it. He wanted Kessel AND a 1st for Kabs. He gave up a lottery pick already, he wants at least a top 5 pick back.

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Then Burkie wouldnt do it. He wanted Kessel AND a 1st for Kabs. He gave up a lottery pick already, he wants at least a top 5 pick back.
The Ducks want Kaberle for Lupul, but it doesn't mean they will get it. Anaheim would not trade the 3rd overall pick, Lupul, and Mitera for Kaberle. The Ducks are banking on Kaberle helping them climb the standings.

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Thats a huge overpayment. Change it to the Flyers first and it's closer.
Please explain.

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wayyyyy to much from ANA
Not when they are lookin to dump Lupul for next to nothing.

IMO its pretty fair value, as Lupul is overpaid.

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Here's HF posters underrating Kaberle... again...

I think its a good proposal, but to be quite honest, I'm not sure if Brian Burke would do it.

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The Leafs need to add (which is a strange thing to say when the OP isn't a Leafs fan).

I think someone like Stempniak needs to go with Kaberle.

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Phi's 1st, Anaheim's 2, Mitera, Lupul

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Kaberle and Stempniak

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Phi's 1st, Anaheim's 2, Mitera, Lupul

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Kaberle and Stempniak
I would do that. If Brian Burke was looking to move Kaberle, he couldn't ask for more than a 1st, a 2nd, a young forward and a young defensemen (both drafted in the 1st round themselves).

Question to Ducks fans: who would be more likely to be traded at this point, Mitera or Mikkelson?

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I would do that. If Brian Burke was looking to move Kaberle, he couldn't ask for more than a 1st, a 2nd, a young forward and a young defensemen (both drafted in the 1st round themselves).

Question to Ducks fans: who would be more likely to be traded at this point, Mitera or Mikkelson?
I would prefer to keep Mikkelson.

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Please explain.
Right now the Ducks have a top 5 pick. Philadelphia will likely end the season picking in the 20-30 range. It's not worth risking giving up a top 5 pick, no matter how much you think Kaberle will help in the standings.

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- Anaheim's 1st would not be a top 10 pick, let alone top 5. The addition of Kaberle is exactly what the Ducks need.
- Lupul is not a top 6 winger. He is an overpaid "sniper." His value is minimal.
- Nick Boynton is a #6-7 defense man.
- Mark Mitera had a disappointing camp. He is slower than molasses going uphill in January. I'll be shocked if he ever becomes something more than a #5-6 defense man.

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Whitney - Wisniewski
This is a terrible proposal. The Ducks aren't in need of Tomas Kaberle. They need a shutdown defender, if anything. This would be a desperation move and it would leave Anaheim going in the wrong direction.

First of all, you don't move what is currently a top-5 pick in a deep draft. The Ducks have plenty of problems and I doubt the addition of Kaberle alone would vault them up in the standings. Plus, you are subtracting Lupul (who has been one of Anaheim's better forwards this year) and Boynton -- just about the only decent stay-at-home guy on the roster.

Also, it's funny how you are describing Boynton, Mitera, Lupul, and the pick. You are way off base in evaluating each of those pieces BUT if that is truly how you feel, then why would Toronto make this deal in your opinion?

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Phi's 1st, Anaheim's 2, Mitera, Lupul

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Kaberle and Stempniak
I would do that.

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