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Chicago talking deal: Sopel + Prospect or Pick

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11-23-2009, 12:04 PM
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sopel + skille + 2nd round pick

for

stajan + 4th round pick
I'd take that deal without the 2nd coming from Chicago.

Sopel+Skille

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Stajan and 4th

I'm not sure Stajan is who chicago envisions as the return they want. If Sopel leaves, don't they need a defenceman?

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11-23-2009, 12:06 PM
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Isn't Sopel a washed up 3rd pairing defensive D?

Why is Toronto getting so excited about picking up a guy who adds to an already existing pile of washed up immobile defensive-d?
Leafs fans are interested in the prospect or draft pick. They are very allusive for us! Sopel is collateral damage in picking up the pick. Of course, we are also hoping to rid ourselves of one of our own washed up defenceman while doing it.

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11-23-2009, 12:11 PM
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Sopel + pick for Exelby's expiring contract makes the most sense.
Just what he said. And the Hawks overpay with a 2nd , because they have to.

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11-23-2009, 12:22 PM
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From a leafs fan perspective I'd love to get Eager , i can't see him being consdiered a prospect but would still target him

I suggested

Exelby and Mitchell for Sopel, Eager and Pick earlier

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11-23-2009, 12:22 PM
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Yes but they did that to acquire Heatley!

Vastly different circumstances

And let me remind you of this

Havlat + Garbage for Garbage

Just cause some GM"s are stupid dont mean all GM's are stupid
errrrr. Wrong. look at the cap hits:

Michalek: 4.33
Cheechoo: 3.0
Total: 7.33

Heatley: 7.5

Im sure San Jose could have found alot better ways to shed 0.17 of their cap hit to get Heatley IF that was the case. Which is was not.

The Ehroff deal happened a few weeks before the Heatley deal and from what I recall it didn't seem like their were much talk between Ottawa and San Jose. If Ehroff was moved to make room for Dany he would have been sent to Ottawa as a key part of the trade.

Havlat was traded when Muckler was the GM, and yes it was a terriable trade.

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11-23-2009, 12:36 PM
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I'd suggest...(if we had to take Sopel back in the deal)

To Chi:Matt Stajan

To Tor:Brouwer, 3rd.


than if we had to take on Sopel, Chicago could add...Aliu and upgrade the 3rd to a 2nd.

So bottom line...


Stajan

for

Brouwer
Aliu
2nd in 2010
Sopel

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11-23-2009, 12:38 PM
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Inevitable salary dump.

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11-23-2009, 12:41 PM
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Sopel's trade value is pretty damn low i would think.

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11-23-2009, 12:42 PM
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Sopel + draft pick for Tlusty?
Why on Earth would Toronto give up one of their top prospects in a salary dump deal?

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TOR gets:
Sopel/Sharp
Campbell
Aliu

CHI gets
Kaberle
cap space
Why on Earth would Toronto give up their best player in a salary dump deal?

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11-23-2009, 12:42 PM
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I'd suggest...(if we had to take Sopel back in the deal)

To Chi:Matt Stajan

To Tor:Brouwer, 3rd.


than if we had to take on Sopel, Chicago could add...Aliu and upgrade the 3rd to a 2nd.

So bottom line...


Stajan

for

Brouwer
Aliu
2nd in 2010
Sopel
Are you kidding me? Dude, your makin it easy for people to mock Leaf fans.

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11-23-2009, 12:43 PM
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I hope its not Akim Aliu... please no!

My keeper team will cry.

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11-23-2009, 12:45 PM
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Chi fans, how far has Skille fallen? He would fit with being a US prospect that still has potential.

Hawks were scouting both the Leafs and Marlies so it would suggest a roster player and propsect going to Chi.


Exelby + Marlie for Skille and Sopel

Who would the Marlie have to be?

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11-23-2009, 12:48 PM
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Avs might be interested in this. I assume Chicago would need a defenseman back:

To Avs:

Sopel + Skille + 2nd

To Hawks:

Clark + Hensick

Hensick can step in at second line center for the Hawks for a while then move to the wing, Skille provides the Avs with an actual bottom 6er in place of Hensick, who isn't a good fit there. Clark is better than Sopel, helping the pending Chicago playoff run, and provides cap relief at year's end over Sopel.

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11-23-2009, 12:51 PM
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Are you kidding me? Dude, your makin it easy for people to mock Leaf fans.
How so?

Rumour has it it's Sopel and somthing (pick/prospect) to a team to take Sopel

Now add in a quality player in Stajan and you still need to get quality for him...

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Someone actually thought the Leafs' main target was Sopel?

It's the stuff that might come WITH Sopel that's the point.

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11-23-2009, 12:58 PM
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Does this deal work for any team? I think it is a very good deal to any taker as well as the Hawks.

Sopel + Skille

for

2nd

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11-23-2009, 01:21 PM
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id be all over:

sopel, skille, 2nd'10, 2rd'11

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exelby, stajan.

breakdown:

exelby for sopel and 2nd '10

exelby is a little grittier then sopel and has a cheaper+expiring contract. as a leaf fan, ex is in the pressbox most nights so i dont mind if sopel takes exelbys chair in the bleachers. to me and the amount of ice time either would get their interchangeable. as for the pick, i would pay $2million this year and next for the 2nd.

stajan for skill and a 2nd'11

stajan helps them on the 3rd line and even if chicago wanted to resign him next year it wont be too pricey. skille is a medium level prospect in my opinion who could use a change and a 2nd round pick 2 years away seems fair value for stajan. this move would also allow us to bring up someone like bozak who many of the fans would like.

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11-23-2009, 01:32 PM
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Does this deal work for any team? I think it is a very good deal to any taker as well as the Hawks.

Sopel + Skille

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2nd
lol

No one is going to give up a draft pick for that.

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11-23-2009, 01:38 PM
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How bout

To Chicago:
Brunnstrom
1st in '10
Brunnstrom cap hit is mostly performace based. His actual salary is $875K


To Dallas:
Sopel
Versteeg
Total - $5.3 million in cap

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11-23-2009, 01:42 PM
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Maybe you don't realize that Sopel has negative value. Chicago will have to add an enticing asset to get rid of Sopel.

Than.....

If Chicago wants Stajan, they would have to trade the appropriate assets to acquire him.

Deal makes sense, you're not.


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11-23-2009, 01:48 PM
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Maybe you don't realize that Sopel has negative value. Chicago will have to add an enticing asset to get rid of Sopel.

Than.....

If Chicago wants Stajan, they would have to trade the appropriate assets to acquire him.

Deal makes sense, you're not.
Chicago doesn't need Stajan because they have Bolland who will play this season, if he was out for the season maybe then they would traded for Stajan but your proposal is pretty lame.

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How bout

To Chicago:
Brunnstrom
1st in '10
Brunnstrom cap hit is mostly performace based. His actual salary is $875K


To Dallas:
Sopel
Versteeg
Total - $5.3 million in cap
Why does Dallas do this?

We don't really need Versteeg because we're stocked with legit top wingers already and Sopel is another 4/5 D-Man which the Stars also have plenty of. No need to add unnecessary salary.


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Sopel + pick for Exelby's expiring contract makes the most sense.
Yep. Plus Exelby actually fills a need on the Hawks as they could use another physical D.

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Why does Dallas do this? No way is a 1st being moved for this, no matter how good Versteeg is.

We don't really need Versteeg because we're stocked with legit top wingers already and Sopel is another 4/5 D-Man which the Stars also have plenty of. No need to add unnecessary salary.
Versteeg is a right handed shot which is something we need bad on Dallas. The draft next year is not a deep one and the 1st is not as important in '10. Dallas has had a good track record in picking later in the draft anyway so we could afford to give up a 1st for him.

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Yep. Plus Exelby actually fills a need on the Hawks as they could use another physical D.
If this trade + Ottawa trade happen, I'd be pretty happy with a Picard/Exelby third pairing for the cost of a 2nd rounder (and hopefully we could get one back from Ottawa).

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