A little early to be judging Gagner. Future top line centre with all-star potential. He's small, a little slow making decisions... but he has top tier passing skills, vision, and is extremely competitive.
Lay off this guy already, we all know he is a slow starter.
Mark my words: barring injury Gagner finishes with at least 60 points this year.
Strange how this better...faster...player hasn't had a better season then Gagner has yet. Funny how that works.
i never said he had a better season, but he will be the better player given his skill advantage (if he learns to use his speed and size in tandem). This is also voracek's second season in the nhl and gagner's third.
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He has greater 'offensive instinct'? Based on what, other than your own perception?
And you would seriously play him above both Hemsky and Penner on our 1st line, both >PPG players this season? Really? I like Voracek, and I would've been fine with him as our pick in '07, but I surely don't understand that.
IMO they're both very good players, with their own skillsets. For you to proclaim that it's "no contest" based on the following production:
And for the record, for all the things you ding Gagner for not being (talented like Datsyuk, gritty like Fleury, fast like Cogliano)...Voracek isn't any of those either, at least in terms of those comparisons. What Voracek is, for sure, is bigger and faster than Gagner. That's it. That helps, but there's more to winning in the NHL than those traits.
voracek doesn't have to compensate for anything...small players like gagner do..you're right, being big and fast isn't the only recipe for success, but they are ingredients that can only help a player realize his potential...i will give gagner this, he has amazing awareness for his age, but will that alone make him a better player than voracek? i don't know...
You inferred it by saying in your first post that his numbers this year haven't improved and then say Voracek is having a respectable year when both he and Gagner are having almost identical numbers this season.
Its not an attack but a statement on how fickle Oiler fans can be when it comes to their own players and prospects.
It might have something to do with the fact that Voracek is already very much a complete player. The Hossa comparison made by Hitchcock is dead on. Gagner is currently a very one dimensional player in comparison. 50ish points from a guy you who plays all 3 zones means a lot more than 50ish points from a guy who is (to some degree) a liability. As far as who will be the better player, I have no idea, but I wouldn't trade Gagner for Voracek. Gagner, imo, will be this team's #1 centre for a long time while Voracek would be 2nd line RW just like he is in Clb. 2 beauties really.