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11-25-2009, 11:58 AM
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They should negotiate a friendly cap/ long term contract with Pleks, a bit like Hossa. Give him a 7 year contract, 4 million for 4 year, 2 years at 5 million and 1 year at 2.5 million.

Average of 4 million/year.

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11-25-2009, 12:07 PM
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They should negotiate a friendly cap/ long term contract with Pleks, a bit like Hossa. Give him a 7 year contract, 4 million for 4 year, 2 years at 5 million and 1 year at 2.5 million.

Average of 4 million/year.
What difference does giving him different amounts per year make? The cap hit will still be 4 million throughout.
A 7 year contract will bring him to 34 so not bad..

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11-25-2009, 12:11 PM
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It would be great if we can lock him up longterm at 3-3.5M though

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metro won't gauge for too much more money. he's got a nice niche working here and the coach loves using him. he's never been so appreciated anywhere else in his career.

and i had a good feeling gainey knows better than to gamble on plek's contract.

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11-25-2009, 12:55 PM
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I dont know what you guys are thinking but if Pleks keeps playing like this he is going to be worth close to what Gionta has. We are looking at something in the 4.5-5.5 range with probably 5 or 6 year term. Thats what I think he could be worth as a UFA right now. I say sign him and we deal with the cap later.

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11-25-2009, 02:09 PM
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What happened to Plekanec's shot? His passing abilities are top quality this year but his shot percentage are at the lowest since he's in the NHL.

The same thing can be say for a couple other forwards in the lineup. A.Kostitsyn is the worse with 4%. He average of 15% in the last 2 years. Except for Gionta, Cammalleri and Metropolit most forwards seem to be at least 4% lower than their career %. A 4% difference is not that much but over a year it's a lots of goals.

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11-25-2009, 04:57 PM
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Loyalty works both ways and Gainey didn't show any for Plek this off season. I fear he will test the market and will get a bigger offer than the habs can match because of that stupid Gomez deal.
yup...

nevertheless, it's nice to see that Gainey has finally decided to wake up and abandon that "policy" of not negotiating with players in season.

funny how now he claims that it was because of last seasons "unique" situation... and what about the 2 previous seasons Mr.Gainey? you know, where you publicly stated that Koivu was the only player you were willing to negotiate with in-season...

amazing how inconsistent the guy is for someone who is revered for his "integrity"...

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11-25-2009, 04:59 PM
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yup...

nevertheless, it's nice to see that Gainey has finally decided to wake up and abandon that "policy" of not negotiating with players in season.

funny how now he claims that it was because of last seasons "unique" situation... and what about the 2 previous seasons Mr.Gainey? you know, where you publicly stated that Koivu was the only player you were willing to negotiate with in-season...

amazing how inconsistent the guy is for someone who is revered for his "integrity"...
Didn't he negociate during the season with Markov too? Didn't he try with Souray?

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11-25-2009, 05:22 PM
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Players with Plekanec's abilities don't grow on tree's... I think its crucial that we either extend him during the season or trade him at the deadline if talks come to a standstill. I personally want to see him re-signed.. I can see it in the 4-5M cap hit range.. Maybe as high as 5.5M. IMO, if he keeps up this level of play he is worth it.

As for cap room for next year, we worry about that when we get there.. Players can be waived, traded, or sent to the minors as required.

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11-25-2009, 06:22 PM
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Didn't he negociate during the season with Markov too? Didn't he try with Souray?
no, he waited until after the season... and then made souray wait until he got the markov deal done.

not much of a multi-tasker i guess...

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11-25-2009, 06:39 PM
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Excellent news and if he can get this done it will be amazing.

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7 years/31 million please and thanks. Price is a major priority as well.... Do we have to cap space? and what about Halak?

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7 years/31 million please and thanks. Price is a major priority as well.... Do we have to cap space? and what about Halak?
You think it's Bob's style to sign somebody 7 years?

Unless it's a mega talented player...

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You think it's Bob's style to sign somebody 7 years?

Unless it's a mega talented player...
He did sign two guys 5 years this summer. He seems more open to long term contracts than even before. He also tried signing Briere some 8 years before.

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Loyalty works both ways and Gainey didn't show any for Plek this off season. I fear he will test the market and will get a bigger offer than the habs can match because of that stupid Gomez deal.
Gainey averted arbitration by signing him before the hearing. That should count for something. After Pleks terrible season, 85% of this board wanted him gone. After he was signed for a year, how many posters complained why Gainey didn't sign him for longer? I can't recall a single one.

And I'll tell you what, had Pleks produced at this pace last season, Gomez wouldn't be a Hab.

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11-25-2009, 07:25 PM
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5 Years/20 Million
$4 Million may seem a little low at first glance, but once must realize that we MUST sign AND lock up Price as well. Price will earn big money as well so the lower you can go with Plecky the better. I think if he's looking for $5 million a year or more you have to grit your teeth and watch him go. Price is a necessity and we can't lose him.

5 years is a decent amount of years as well, as I don't see Bob signing him for 7+.

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yup...

nevertheless, it's nice to see that Gainey has finally decided to wake up and abandon that "policy" of not negotiating with players in season.

funny how now he claims that it was because of last seasons "unique" situation... and what about the 2 previous seasons Mr.Gainey? you know, where you publicly stated that Koivu was the only player you were willing to negotiate with in-season...

amazing how inconsistent the guy is for someone who is revered for his "integrity"...
Are you referring to the economic crisis, the sale of the team and the number of UFA's when you say "unique season"? Or do you just make the stupid assault on BG's integrity as a general attck?

Without knowing exactly what happened prior to and during the off-season why don't you just keep your uninformed baseless and utterly useless opinion to yourself?

The thread is dedicated to Pleks and how we should sign him based on CURRENT performance for a long term and $5M per year salary. I seem to remember that Komi was going to get $6M+ and we should sign him to a long term $5.5M deal to secure him based on past performance. How is that evaluation looking right now?

This thread wants to reward Pleks for a similarly ridiculous long term contract deal designed to make sure nobody else gets him based on CURRENT production? What about last season? Does he get a Mulligan for that? It is part of what he is and should be part of the equation.

I love Pleks and would love to see the guy re-signed but a decent term with decent money should be enough to secure the guy. It's not like he's an elite player with an incredible pedigree. He has his bumps in the road. We need to evaluate the entirety of his production before we make any offer or crucify BG if he does not make the offer. Even when things are good and looking up we find a way to find gloom and doom.

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11-25-2009, 09:50 PM
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I like Plek but signing him for more than 4 years so early in his career (and he only showed 1.25 season of good hockey so far) may be a gamble. Even Markov didn't get a 5-year or longer contract.

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Just make it happen right now!!!!

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He should get something around what Mikko Koivu (3.250) or Patrick Sharp (3.900) are making. My guess is he's gonna get a 5 year 20 million deal.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2001e.html

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The way Metro is going, he might make as much as a good 3rd liner, meaning 2-2.5 million...which could price him out for us. Not sure what he'll get, but at his pace, 2 is a fair number to point for (if I were his agent).
tell him he wont get more minutes anywhere than in mtl, tell him hell be 36 and that its 1m per or nothing ...

then tell him go out there and win a cup.

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Are you referring to the economic crisis, the sale of the team and the number of UFA's when you say "unique season"? Or do you just make the stupid assault on BG's integrity as a general attck?

Without knowing exactly what happened prior to and during the off-season why don't you just keep your uninformed baseless and utterly useless opinion to yourself?

The thread is dedicated to Pleks and how we should sign him based on CURRENT performance for a long term and $5M per year salary. I seem to remember that Komi was going to get $6M+ and we should sign him to a long term $5.5M deal to secure him based on past performance. How is that evaluation looking right now?

This thread wants to reward Pleks for a similarly ridiculous long term contract deal designed to make sure nobody else gets him based on CURRENT production? What about last season? Does he get a Mulligan for that? It is part of what he is and should be part of the equation.

I love Pleks and would love to see the guy re-signed but a decent term with decent money should be enough to secure the guy. It's not like he's an elite player with an incredible pedigree. He has his bumps in the road. We need to evaluate the entirety of his production before we make any offer or crucify BG if he does not make the offer. Even when things are good and looking up we find a way to find gloom and doom.
did i hurt your feelings...?

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i'd say a Krejci type deal would be fair.

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did i hurt your feelings...?
nope...but you did prove your lack of intelligence with this reply.

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i'd say a Krejci type deal would be fair.
Krejci was a RFA when he signed his.

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