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11-26-2009, 11:49 PM
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Will Tambellini blow the ship this season?

So with hopes of making the play-offs rapidly dwindling, the question is will the management blow this team and start a re-build this season?

Souray, Visnovsky, Staios, Moreau, Pisani are some of the players that could be interesting to potential cup contenders.

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11-26-2009, 11:51 PM
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of course not, management will blame injuries for the record and say "well, if it weren't for injuries we might've squeeked in!"
plus, Tambo has been so quiet I'm beginning to wonder if he's our GM

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not when Kevin Lowe still runs the show with this team...

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11-27-2009, 12:00 AM
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Magic eight ball says "Katzlowtini says no"

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Not a chance, apparently he believes that this is a playoff team and that the injuries are the only reason for the suckage.

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11-27-2009, 12:06 AM
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Weve been rebuilding for years,

Omark
Gagner
Eberle
MPS
Cogliano
Chorney
JDD
Dubnyk

And then youve got the other guys that are pretty young to

Hemsky
Penner
Gilbert
Grebeshkov
Smid

This teams having trouble fitting Eberle, MPS and Omark in, why do we need to rebuild even more then this?

IMO what this team lacks is veterans, not young skilled players

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11-27-2009, 12:07 AM
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No

The team is run with too much pride, ego, and fear of losing season ticket holders.

There isn't enough logic or long range planning in the organization to realize that this team could use a long term build plan after years of poor drafting, mediocre talent, and poor development.

Not to mention the team seems unwilling to accept the reality that if this team ever gets another superstar, it will have to be through the draft as high end players simply do not want to play here after they've been established in the league for a while. Have to get them young and develop them under a strong plan and playstyle, instead of trying to emulate some other new team on a yearly basis.

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Weve been rebuilding for years,

Omark
Gagner
Eberle
MPS
Cogliano
Chorney
JDD
Dubnyk

And then youve got the other guys that are pretty young to

Hemsky
Penner
Gilbert
Grebeshkov
Smid

This teams having trouble fitting Eberle, MPS and Omark in, why do we need to rebuild even more then this?

IMO what this team lacks is veterans, not young skilled players
how many of those players are top-5 picks? (ie. blue chippers)

none...we need a FRANCHISE player to build around, and the only way we're getting one is through the draft

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11-27-2009, 12:19 AM
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Weve been rebuilding for years,

Omark
Gagner
Eberle
MPS
Cogliano
Chorney
JDD
Dubnyk

And then youve got the other guys that are pretty young to

Hemsky
Penner
Gilbert
Grebeshkov
Smid

This teams having trouble fitting Eberle, MPS and Omark in, why do we need to rebuild even more then this?

IMO what this team lacks is veterans, not young skilled players
Horcoff
Pisani
Moreau
Souray
Visnovsky
Staios
Strudwick
Khabibulin

All over 30

Hemsky
Penner
Gilbert
Grebs
Comrie

All over 25


The team does not lack veterans. What it lacks is impact players.

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11-27-2009, 12:20 AM
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how many of those players are top-5 picks? (ie. blue chippers)

none...we need a FRANCHISE player to build around, and the only way we're getting one is through the draft
Hmm if I remember correctly Datsyuk wasnt a top 5 pick either, nor was Kopitar, Alfredsson, Zetterberg or Hossa

You dont need to be drafted top 5 to be a superstar...

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Horcoff
Pisani
Moreau
Souray
Visnovsky
Staios
Strudwick
Khabibulin

All over 30

Hemsky
Penner
Gilbert
Grebs
Comrie

All over 25


The team does not lack veterans. What it lacks is impact players.
Only 4 of those players over 30 are actually not terrible. It lacks proven veterans that have good leadership and like you mentioned, can make an impact

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Only 4 of those players over 30 are actually not terrible. It lacks proven veterans that have good leadership and like you mentioned, can make an impact
And you don't start adding veterans to a young core until you have a good young core.

The Oilers don't have one yet.

Gagner has been disappointing to my eye, Cogliano is losing ground, Smid seems to be coming into his own but Eberle, MSP, Omark, Chorney, Peckham, JDD and Dubnyk are still huge question marks and none of them is likely a franchise player.

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if Oiler management decided to make serious changes to the roster (I firmly believe they would not "blow it up"), who would you keep?

For me, it's simple:

Hemsky
Penner
Gagner
Brule
Comrie
Jacques
Stone
Visnovsky
Souray
Smid
Khabibulin
Deslauriers

That leaves 6 slots for forwards, 4 slots for defence (I'm counting the obligatory press box players). I am not including Potulny or Chorney, since they would otherwise be in Springfield right now. Assuming they remained with the big club,however, that's still 5 slots for forwards and 3 slots for D. Plenty of room to improve.

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Hmm if I remember correctly Datsyuk wasnt a top 5 pick either, nor was Kopitar, Alfredsson, Zetterberg or Hossa

You dont need to be drafted top 5 to be a superstar...
How's that workin out for us?

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How's that workin out for us?
Well have to wait and see, they need a chance to play in the NHL first (Eberle, MPS and Omark)

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Only 4 of those players over 30 are actually not terrible. It lacks proven veterans that have good leadership and like you mentioned, can make an impact
Veterans have lists that they give to their general managers that have teams on them that arent Edmonton in case the gm decides they need to up and trade them. Or they have nmc where they get to pick what team they go to. Sound familiar? Just how do you suppose we get these "veterans" of which you speak?

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Well have to wait and see, they need a chance to play in the NHL first (Eberle, MPS and Omark)
Wait and see? Im old. Ive been waiting a long time. I could be dead by the time we finally realize we need to do something different. Im not kidding.

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Hmm if I remember correctly Datsyuk wasnt a top 5 pick either, nor was Kopitar, Alfredsson, Zetterberg or Hossa

You dont need to be drafted top 5 to be a superstar...
But look at the players that surround(ed) those superstars...skilled, solid, dependable veterans.

The Oilers have Souray and Visnovsky as skaters, Khabibulin in net. That's it.

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But look at the players that surround(ed) those superstars...skilled, solid, dependable veterans.

The Oilers have Souray and Visnovsky as skaters, Khabibulin in net. That's it.
Exactly what I mean

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Veterans have lists that they give to their general managers that have teams on them that arent Edmonton in case the gm decides they need to up and trade them. Or they have nmc where they get to pick what team they go to. Sound familiar? Just how do you suppose we get these "veterans" of which you speak?
I guess well have to overpay like we did with Khabbi

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Hmm if I remember correctly Datsyuk wasnt a top 5 pick either, nor was Kopitar, Alfredsson, Zetterberg or Hossa

You dont need to be drafted top 5 to be a superstar...
I always lol when I hear this.

Yeah, great plan. Let me compose an e-mail to Tambo.

"Dear Mr. Tambellini:

Please use your 7th round pick to draft the next Zetterberg or Datsyuk, and not a lesser player.

Sincerely,

Mr Bugg"

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Exactly what I mean
Then you've got the right idea.

The veteran core SUCKS. S-U-C-K-S.

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I always lol when I hear this.

Yeah, great plan. Let me compose an e-mail to Tambo.

"Dear Mr. Tambellini:

Please use your 7th round pick to draft the next Zetterberg or Datsyuk, and not a lesser player.

Sincerely,

Mr Bugg"
For all we know Omark's that player...

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I guess well have to overpay like we did with Khabbi
Dont want to be obtuse but we tried that with Hossa and he still wouldn't come here. That is no way to be successful in a cap system either. We can get our superstar through the draft. It will cost less and we will reap more benefits. We are going to suck for another few years regardless of what happens. Might as well make hay while the sun shines.

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For all we know Omark's that player...
Probably a ten percent chance at best. Hall would be 80%. I know where my money would be.

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