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11-29-2009, 12:11 AM
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I would look to trade/ let go of both by next season.
I still have hope for Grebs. At least to be a 30+ point player with around +5 or so rating. He just needs to find that game again.

As for Souray, I love his leadership and we need him for that.

The other player I forgot to say: JFJ

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Gagner is the least of our problems. He's a 20 year old putting up respectable points. The problem is the team, and the fans, expect him to be doing more than a 5'10 20 year old usually does. The Kane's of the league are the vast, vast, minority and people need to wake up and see that.
He's not 5'10

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11-29-2009, 12:12 AM
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You guys can't fairly bang on DD tonight. Young guy who's still learning, and its his first NHL start. I think he's a guy that's developing quite well actually. From last years pre-season camp from what I saw today is night and day. I feel like his reaction time to shots was a bit slow, but he's moving around quite well for his size, and he covers a lot of net. He impressed me today.

JDD, is a bit older, still leaning the NHL game, but he has to play better than that. I keep getting the impression from him that he's a less flexible Garon? Has up and down games, and looks small in the net (for a big guy). His bad habits where exposed today.

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11-29-2009, 12:12 AM
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What all of us here saw was a team that was staggered by a punch and was wandering around dazed and DESPERATELY needed a time out call to get settled.

Almost anybody here recognize a Time out was essential in the first period.

Or a goalie pull

Neither happened.

Get the troops settled a little and it could have been a different game.
That's what I was thinking.... When you are down 2-0 and 3-0 early in the first, you shouldn't exactly be thinking you need to save that timeout to draw up a play late in a tie game....

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Same here. But by cleaning house I meant everyone in office. He needs to do what Gainey did in Montreal when he took over.

For the players, dear gawd do what you can.

Hemsky, Penner, Gagner, Brule, Souray, Visnovsky, Smid and Grebeshkov are my only untouchables.
But the only reason Gainey was able to pull that off was because all his players were UFA's. Plus as bad as our management has been, we have been better than the Habs.

Over the past year's Gainey has let all these players go for absolutely nothing.

Souray
Kovalev
Komisarek
Ryder
Streit
Koivu

And let's not forget that he traded away Mike Ribiero for Janne Niiniimaa

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He's not 5'10
Fine, 5'3, the point is the same.

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What all of us here saw was a team that was staggered by a punch and was wandering around dazed and DESPERATELY needed a time out call to get settled.

Almost anybody here recognize a Time out was essential in the first period.

Or a goalie pull

Neither happened.

Get the troops settled a little and it could have been a different game.
Absolutely, and Replacement I was disappointed by Quinn not calling a time out. The team was not prepared, not saying it was the difference maker however I was puzzled why he did not at least call a time out.

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11-29-2009, 12:13 AM
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Oh ya.

JDD is ****ing awful.

He should start as many games as possible this year to ensure the team doesn't win many games it shouldn't.

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11-29-2009, 12:13 AM
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What all of us here saw was a team that was staggered by a punch and was wandering around dazed and DESPERATELY needed a time out call to get settled.

Almost anybody here recognize a Time out was essential in the first period.

Or a goalie pull

Neither happened.

Get the troops settled a little and it could have been a different game.
Right...so, in essence they were looking for leadership. Where the hell is it within that lineup to help show the way? It can't just be the coaches telling these guys -- they need to execute. Being tired is one thing, but it didn't look like that on a number of goals...guys were standing around with their feet in cement, not checking guys, not choking off lanes, not playing with their heads in the game.

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I realize you guys are frustrated and tired of losing, but the Oilers didn't look like a team that wasn't trying tonight. They look tired, having played the night before. And Deslauriers, being a career backup playing a long string of games as starter, was deep in his net and gave up some questionable goals, which can be demoralizing. In spite of this, the Oilers still carried the flow of play for long stretches of the game and repeatedly tried to battle back despite the lopsided score.

Your team has been absolutely pummeled by injuries and illness, you've just lost your best offensive player for the season, and despite your terrible slump you're still within shouting distance of a playoff spot. I understand that moral victories are probably not very palatable at this juncture and you'd really rather just see some results, but there's no reason to put the knives to the team after tonight's game. The score was not representative of their effort.

I agree that the Oilers showed a good deal of effort and played well for stretches in the second and third but i think that was more a product of Vancouver having a huge lead and sitting back similar to The Oilers-Coyotes game the other night when Phoenix took it to the Oilers after being down 4-0

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11-29-2009, 12:14 AM
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You guys can't fairly bang on DD tonight. Young guy who's still learning, and its his first NHL start. I think he's a guy that's developing quite well actually. From last years pre-season camp from what I saw today is night and day. I feel like his reaction time to shots was a bit slow, but he's moving around quite well for his size, and he covers a lot of net. He impressed me today.

JDD, is a bit older, still leaning the NHL game, but he has to play better than that. I keep getting the impression from him that he's a less flexible Garon? Has up and down games, and looks small in the net (for a big guy). His bad habits where exposed today.
They've been exposed for a while. Problems handling the puck, weak blocker side, and way too deep in the net.

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11-29-2009, 12:15 AM
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Oh ya.

JDD is ****ing awful.

He should start as many games as possible this year to ensure the team doesn't win many games it shouldn't.
He is definitely getting exposed now that teams have seen him a bit more.... Ideally he would be able to spend some time going over video and working on this stuff in practice... Unfortunately he is going to just keep getting thrown into the fire until Bulin is back....

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11-29-2009, 12:16 AM
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Does anyone think that MacTavish ruined this team? I do. It's hard to get rid of those MacT habits. MacT should have been fired 3 years ago. He was fired 3 years too late and now we're seeing what happens when a coach ruins players.

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11-29-2009, 12:17 AM
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According to Tencer Nilsson and Stone will be back for Thursday .

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Can anybody sum up Quinn's post game comments?

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You guys can't fairly bang on DD tonight. Young guy who's still learning, and its his first NHL start. I think he's a guy that's developing quite well actually. From last years pre-season camp from what I saw today is night and day. I feel like his reaction time to shots was a bit slow, but he's moving around quite well for his size, and he covers a lot of net. He impressed me today.

JDD, is a bit older, still leaning the NHL game, but he has to play better than that. I keep getting the impression from him that he's a less flexible Garon? Has up and down games, and looks small in the net (for a big guy). His bad habits where exposed today.
I agree Patch and I noticed how Delauriers does not make himself big in the net. Really don't know what to think of these two, goals were easy to come by in the top corners of the net.

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Right...so, in essence they were looking for leadership. Where the hell is it within that lineup to help show the way? It can't just be the coaches telling these guys -- they need to execute. Being tired is one thing, but it didn't look like that on a number of goals...guys were standing around with their feet in cement, not checking guys, not choking off lanes, not playing with their heads in the game.
The team was staggered. You could see it if you replay the first 10mins. They were literally shocked after the bang bang goals and its one of the problems coaching this club is you have to do that kind of babysitting.

Quinn himself knows this is a very fragile club and they get rattled easily. The first period was just ugly. A timeout or an earlier goalie pull.

Its textbook case of when you would do either.

If you wait for this club to get off the canvas when they get running around good luck.

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I wonder if the anti-Hemsky posters still think that the team is better without Hemsky.
I don't know if there are any anti-Hemsky posters but this team sucked with him in the lineup as well. They just didn't suck quite as bad.

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11-29-2009, 12:19 AM
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Does anyone think that MacTAvish ruined this team? I do. It's hard to get rid of those MacT habits. MacT should have been fired 3 years ago. He was fired 3 years too late and now we're seeing what happens when a coach ruins players.
So MacT should have been fired after he was one game away from winning the Cup?

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He is definitely getting exposed now that teams have seen him a bit more.... Ideally he would be able to spend some time going over video and working on this stuff in practice... Unfortunately he is going to just keep getting thrown into the fire until Bulin is back....
I'm wondering when this will be. Is he even practising yet?

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According to Tencer Nilsson and Stone will be back for Thursday .
NOOOO

PLEASE NO

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As the millions and MILLIONNNS of fans chanted our name.... Oilers Suck, Oilers Suck, Oilers Suck... I was there live tonight, despite the first period being one of the worst ever and I mean eeeever played the rest of the game was quite great, and hats off to the two hot blondes with big ol'boobies making out below section 327 in the 3rd period! Sure gave me something to cheer about!

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Does anyone think that MacTAvish ruined this team? I do. It's hard to get rid of those MacT habits. MacT should have been fired 3 years ago. He was fired 3 years too late and now we're seeing what happens when a coach ruins players.
You must be kidding, right? Alright, MacT's tired old message wore on the players and they tuned him out. The entire coaching staff was cleaned out, with one inexplicable holdover being the exception. There was a brand new strategy, a new look and fresh eyes that brought in a different style of play. For the first 9 games, it worked well. Then the injury bug hit...but in conjunction with that, the players themselves stopped executing. Don't make silly excuses like this.


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If I understand correctly, the Oilers basically had to keep JDD at the start of the season or risk losing him on waivers if they tried to send him down.

Methinks that risk is one I'd be willing to take now.
Maybe DD gets a shot now, and JDD goes down when Khabby's healthy

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