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11-29-2009, 03:28 AM
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Souray and Horcoff are playing far below their standards, Hemsky is gone, Gagner is still searching for his game, my biggest point is that I don't want to see us become buyers at the deadline like we were last year. Imagine if that 2nd round pick that we dealt for Kotalik was kept and became Ryan O'Reilly.

We need to stockpile picks and make them count.
I still have faith, i probably shouldn't but i do. I just think we should save our trades for the deadline if we decide to become sellers. there is still lots of time to decide.

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11-29-2009, 03:32 AM
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The even tougher part is that Hemsky is gone, no one knows when/if Souray and Horcoff will get better, when Khabibulin will be back, etc. Too many variables piled on top of an already daunting task.
It was impossible even before that but it's time the team recognized it's a lost season and finally put in a long term plan to become winner.

I have no faith that Lowbellini gets it though.

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When was the last time that we haven't sold out a home game? How long has our team been out of the playoffs? Our fan base can take a rebuild, if we lower the ticket prices a little bit we could still sell out every night with a team as good as the Leafs.
Sorry to tell you but fans would stay away and we'd have an attendance like Phoenix if not worse. Fans will not put up with a rebuild. My reasoning. Look at all Oilers criticism on here after one loss.

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All joking aside BBO, I do agree that it is time for a rebuild. The problem now is that some players have contracts that are untradeable and other have played so poorly there stock is sooo low, it's hard to rebuild.

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Horcoff might even need surgery which would finish his yr off aswell.
Agreed, it doesn't seem to be getting better.

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I still have faith, i probably shouldn't but i do. I just think we should save our trades for the deadline if we decide to become sellers. there is still lots of time to decide.
Fair enough, however there will be a lot of players available then, we might be able to get more for some guys now if there aren't many players on the market.

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Sorry to tell you but fans would stay away and we'd have an attendance like Phoenix if not worse. Fans will not put up with a rebuild. My reasoning. Look at all Oilers criticism on here after one loss.
Actually it's 8 losses in the last 10 games.

Do you think fans will keep coming out to watch that gong show?

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It was impossible even before that but it's time the team recognized it's a lost season and finally put in a long term plan to become winner.

I have no faith that Lowbellini gets it though.
This is where our opinions differ. Your last sentence is where we agree.

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Actually it's 8 losses in the last 10 games.

Do you think fans will keep coming out to watch that gong show?
They'd virtually stay away if they ever rebuilt. Fans and EIG were after Lowe in 2007 when he tried to rebuild. Don't you think fans will be after Tambi if they want to rebuild. I sure do. The won't ever be able to rebuild as the points I just made.

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They'd virtually stay away if they ever rebuilt. Fans and EIG were after Lowe in 2007 when he tried to rebuild. Don't you think fans will be after Tambi if they want to rebuild. I sure do. The won't ever be able to rebuild as the points I just made.
Then the Oilers are doomed.

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They'd virtually stay away if they ever rebuilt. Fans and EIG were after Lowe in 2007 when he tried to rebuild. Don't you think fans will be after Tambi if they want to rebuild. I sure do. The won't ever be able to rebuild as the points I just made.
There would still be a ton of fans, just that the casual fans will be down the road.

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This is where our opinions differ. Your last sentence is where we agree.
The Oilers were losing miserably with Hemsky in the lineup.

Losing him doesn't help but this season epitaph was written about ten games ago.

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Sorry to tell you but fans would stay away and we'd have an attendance like Phoenix if not worse. Fans will not put up with a rebuild. My reasoning. Look at all Oilers criticism on here after one loss.
This might be true... I used to think this way as well. My good friend is a pittsburg fan and always talks shat to me . I always tell him that Oilers/Flames fans would never tolerate a rebuild, we always have to try and be competative each year.

I think we all agree Edmonton is never going to attract any big name free agences, so the only way to rebiuld for us is thru the draft.

But could you imagine the Oilers shating the bed for the next 10 years(ie: pittsburg)to do a proper rebiuld?

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This team has plenty of young talent, there are only a coupla players who need to be given the heave go and we all know who they are.

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The Oilers were losing miserably with Hemsky in the lineup.

Losing him doesn't help but this season epitaph was written about ten games ago.
Hemsky also wasn't healthy. Either way, it doesn't much matter when it went south just that it needs to be dealt with properly. The Hemsky injury might give them the "excuse" to do it right this time.

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This might be true... I used to think this way as well. My good friend is a pittsburg fan and always talks shat to me . I always tell him that Oilers/Flames fans would never tolerate a rebuild, we always have to try and be competative each year.

I think we all agree Edmonton is never going to attract any big name free agences, so the only way to rebiuld for us is thru the draft.

But could you imagine the Oilers shating the bed for the next 10 years(ie: pittsburg)to do a proper rebiuld?
It doesn't take ten years if you already have some good pieces in the system.

Lombardi rebuilt the Kings in 3 years and they're playoff contenders.

The Oilers actually have better young players than Lombardi started with.

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They'd virtually stay away if they ever rebuilt. Fans and EIG were after Lowe in 2007 when he tried to rebuild. Don't you think fans will be after Tambi if they want to rebuild. I sure do. The won't ever be able to rebuild as the points I just made.


If the fans don't except a rebuild they can get use to a loser team for long long time.

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Hemsky also wasn't healthy. Either way, it doesn't much matter when it went south just that it needs to be dealt with properly. The Hemsky injury might give them the "excuse" to do it right this time.
Let's hope so.

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They'd virtually stay away if they ever rebuilt. Fans and EIG were after Lowe in 2007 when he tried to rebuild. Don't you think fans will be after Tambi if they want to rebuild. I sure do. The won't ever be able to rebuild as the points I just made.
EIG didn't have pockets as deep as Katz. They couldn't afford to do a rebuild.

If Katz is as smart as his net worth, then he would start a rebuild now.

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It doesn't take ten years if you already have some good pieces in the system.

Lombardi rebuilt the Kings in 3 years and they're playoff contenders.

The Oilers actually have better young players than Lombardi started with.
Agreed, IMO this rebuild only needs 1 or 2 seasons because Lowe did acquire some decent pieces to the puzzle in his time here. IMO if we could acquire another elite talent like Filatov and land a guy like Hall/Seguin/etc. this year we'd be in a pretty good position for the future.

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Let's hope so.
I wonder how much Katz figures into this.

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Let's hope so.

What pisses me off is that the oilers are trying their hardest to win.The team isn't going to make the playoffs so ****ing tank.

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It doesn't take ten years if you already have some good pieces in the system.

Lombardi rebuilt the Kings in 3 years and they're playoff contenders.

The Oilers actually have better young players than Lombardi started with.
Could you please name thease players for me? And I don't mean that in a sarcastic way.

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Hemsky also wasn't healthy. Either way, it doesn't much matter when it went south just that it needs to be dealt with properly. The Hemsky injury might give them the "excuse" to do it right this time.
Apparently he was playing with it for approximately 6 weeks.

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I think the Oilers' forward corp is fine.

I'd propose a trade like this Visnovsky to OTT for Jared Cowen.

and Possibly trade away Hemsky but some team would also need to take someone like Horcoff.

A team like Atlanta would be probably up for that.

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It doesn't take ten years if you already have some good pieces in the system.

Lombardi rebuilt the Kings in 3 years and they're playoff contenders.

The Oilers actually have better young players than Lombardi started with.
I call BS. The kings have been rebuilding for 10 years.

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