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12-11-2009, 08:24 PM
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Devils advantages: weak defensive defensemen on Washington. That'll make all the difference; too much offensive focus against the Devils = transition goals against. Especially with Lemaire coaching.

Oh, and Washington hasn't beaten NJ yet this season either.
*ahem*

Capitals are 7-6 against New Jersey all time in the playoffs.

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12-11-2009, 08:25 PM
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What do you guys think:

Marleau-Thornton-Heatley (Stacked)
Hall-Pavelski-Setoguchi (the future #1 line)

Hall-Thornton-Heatley (hey kid, welcome to the NHL, play wing with the best passer in the world)
Marleau-Pavelski-Setoguchi

Pavelski-Thornton-Heatley
Hall-Marleau-Setoguchi (love the speed)

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12-11-2009, 08:27 PM
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What do you guys think:

Marleau-Thornton-Heatley (Stacked)
Hall-Pavelski-Setoguchi (the future #1 line)

Hall-Thornton-Heatley (hey kid, welcome to the NHL, play wing with the best passer in the world)
Marleau-Pavelski-Setoguchi

Pavelski-Thornton-Heatley
Hall-Marleau-Setoguchi (love the speed)
I missed the trade, why are you getting Hall?

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12-11-2009, 08:27 PM
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Devils advantages: weak defensive defensemen on Washington. That'll make all the difference; too much offensive focus against the Devils = transition goals against. Especially with Lemaire coaching.

Oh, and Washington hasn't beaten NJ yet this season either.
I also like that Zajac, Parise, and Langenbrunner are much better defensively than Washington's forwards, excluding Backstrom. Washington's time will come, but not yet.

Also, forgot to add the choke factor is irrelevant with regards to San Jose, because we are playing Vancouver.

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12-11-2009, 08:29 PM
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I missed the trade, why are you getting Hall?
Clowe
Ferrerio
Karlsson
Kent Huskins
Torrey Mitchell
San Jose 1st

James Wiznewski
Luca Sbisa
Anaheim 1st rd pick (1st overall)
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12-11-2009, 08:29 PM
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*ahem*

Capitals are 7-6 against New Jersey all time in the playoffs.

Game Over
Irrelevant fact: Patrik Sundstrom scored 8 points in a game against Washington in 1988.

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12-11-2009, 08:32 PM
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Clowe
Ferrerio
Karlsson
Kent Huskins
Torrey Mitchell
San Jose 1st

James Wiznewski
Luca Sbisa
Anaheim 1st rd pick (1st overall)
Mike Brown
Why... would Anaheim do that?

I now understand why you were so emphatic about Anaheim not improving.

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12-11-2009, 08:32 PM
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Clowe
Ferrerio
Karlsson
Kent Huskins
Torrey Mitchell
San Jose 1st

James Wiznewski
Luca Sbisa
Anaheim 1st rd pick (1st overall)
Mike Brown
That's a highway robbery for you now that it's almost ridiculous...

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12-11-2009, 08:35 PM
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Why... would Anaheim do that?

I now understand why you were so emphatic about Anaheim not improving.
Lol, of course. As soon as he moved Niedermayer, I knew Hall/Seguin was mine.

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12-11-2009, 08:37 PM
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Irrelevant fact: Patrik Sundstrom scored 8 points in a game against Washington in 1988.
Random Fact:

Alexander Ovechkin is the greatest player in Hockey right now.

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12-11-2009, 08:38 PM
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Sharks over Nucks
Goaltending = Even. If anything Luongo is a better goalie, but hasn't yet shown that in the playoffs (Neither had Datsyuk/Zetterberg before the 08 playoffs when they tore it up)

Defense= Vancouver. Neidermayer, Mitchell, Ehrhoff and Edler make up the best Top 4 in the league IMO. Followed by a calming vet in Sami Salo and Denis Seidenberg we're a good fit on each pairing. Not to talk down SJ's D, Wiz was a good addition just not enough. Demers will buckle under the pressure.

Forwards = San Jose can take the top 6 (Not by much) but for someone to slight our bottom 6 is a joke. Bernier was a machine in the playoffs last year, upping his game and rocking people. Rypien and Glass have shown they know how to change the momentum of a game with their fights and aggressive forecheck.


All in all I think we take the series. Our 2nd line will be key with the speedy Kesler and Raymond burning through undersized forwards like Scott Nichol and Richard Park, and Nathan Horton being a great finisher on the line.

Add all this to the fact that San Jose are notorious chokers, and you've got a good series ahead!

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12-11-2009, 08:40 PM
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Random Fact:

Alexander Ovechkin is the greatest player in Hockey right now.
Not scared.

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20 minutes remaining, 4 votes in... cmon people.


Also

ALL FINALS VOTING will be sent to IslesRock4

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12-11-2009, 08:41 PM
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All in all I think we take the series. Our 2nd line will be key with the speedy Kesler and Raymond burning through undersized forwards like Scott Nichol and Richard Park, and Nathan Horton being a great finisher on the line.
Not sure this would work the way you want it to.

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12-11-2009, 08:41 PM
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I almost agree with this post,but just to compare rosters


Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Raymond-Kesler-Horton
Bernier-Wellwood-Bernier
Hansen-Rypien-Carter

Niedermayer-Mitchell
Salo-Edler
Ehrhoff-Sedinberg

Luongo



Sharks

Heatley-Thornton-Marleau
Seto-Pavelski-Couture
McGin-Malhotra-Brown
Orrtmeyr-Nicol-Stabuitz


Boyle-Blake
Sbisa-Wiznewski
Vlasic-Demers

Nabakov



Van in 7


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Sharks over Nucks

Thornton, Marleau, Heatley, Pavelski, Couture>>>>Sedin, Sedin, Horton, Kesler, Burrows, and Raymond. Clear and simple, there is no denying San Jose has the better top end forward. The Sedins have been spectacular this year, but the Sharks would unless you need a playmaker, you'd take all three big sharks over the twins. Kesler and Pavelski are extremely similar, elite second liners, with a light edge to Kesler, same goes to Setoguchi over Horton. Couture and Raymond are nice complimentary top 6 forwards offering different things. A slight edge to Raymond. Marleau is simply in another class than Burrows.

In the bottom 6, McGinn is turning into what we hoped Bernier would become, but Bernier has the edge for now. After that, I think Malhorta, Park, Nichol, Ortmeyer, and Brown bring more than Vancouver's bottom 6, but they are build very similar.

Neither team has a true shutdown line, as the second lines (Marleau-Pavs vs, Kesler-Burrows) are used against opposing teams top lines.

Both teams (along with the recently departed Calgary) have top 3 defenses in the West.

Boyle is the clear cut offensive leader and arguably best player, but it is hard to argue with Niedermayer in the playoffs. Call it a wash. After that I'd order the d-men Ehrhoff; Wiznewski/Vlasic/Mitchell/Edler/Blake, Demers. Overall a slight edge to Vancouver.

Lounogo is better than Nabby, but Evgeni has been as good this season, and Lou hasn't proven he can win in the playoffs yet, Nabby's gone to the WCF and carried his team there.

San Jose has the #2 pk, and #7 PP. Vancouver's pk is ranked 27th and is arguably there biggest hole. Their PP is slightly better at #4. Also important is the fact that SJ is the #1 ranked Face off team, which will be critical in giving San Jose's skilled players more possession, Vancouver is solid in their own right at #9.

Any way you slice it, this one is extremely close. San Jose lacks a ton of offensive depth, but neither does Vancouver. Furthermore, the Nucks do not have the shutdown center which will force their top 2 lines to go head to head with San Jose's. I don't think there is any team in the league that can deal with that, because San Jose is so stacked in their top 6, and three (Joe, Joe, and Patty are exceptional defensively). San Jose has three snipers+Pavelski, while

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12-11-2009, 08:41 PM
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Goaltending = Even. If anything Luongo is a better goalie, but hasn't yet shown that in the playoffs (Neither had Datsyuk/Zetterberg before the 08 playoffs when they tore it up)

Defense= Vancouver. Neidermayer, Mitchell, Ehrhoff and Edler make up the best Top 4 in the league IMO. Followed by a calming vet in Sami Salo and Denis Seidenberg we're a good fit on each pairing. Not to talk down SJ's D, Wiz was a good addition just not enough. Demers will buckle under the pressure.

Forwards = San Jose can take the top 6 (Not by much) but for someone to slight our bottom 6 is a joke. Bernier was a machine in the playoffs last year, upping his game and rocking people. Rypien and Glass have shown they know how to change the momentum of a game with their fights and aggressive forecheck.


All in all I think we take the series. Our 2nd line will be key with the speedy Kesler and Raymond burning through undersized forwards like Scott Nichol and Richard Park, and Nathan Horton being a great finisher on the line.

Add all this to the fact that San Jose are notorious chokers, and you've got a good series ahead!
"Neidermayer,Mitchell, Ehrhoff and Edler make up the best Top 4 in the league"

I think you mean,Washington has he leagues best top 4

Phaneuf>Niedermayer
Green > Erhoff
Kuba > Edler
Poti < Mitchell

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Not scared.
But Parise will be.

He'll be out mid-way through the first period.








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"Neidermayer,Mitchell, Ehrhoff and Edler make up the best Top 4 in the league"

I think you mean,Washington has he leagues best top 4

Phaneuf>Niedermayer
Green > Erhoff
Kuba > Edler
Poti < Mitchell


Edit: my bad

Your defensive can score goals, and thats about it. They would be useless on the PK, and get lit up by the Sedins.


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Bernier has the ability of being on the roster twice.

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But Parise will be.

He'll be out mid-way through the first period.







So Ovechkin is out with a suspension and Parise is playing with a broken leg. Deal!

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I almost agree with this post,but just to compare rosters


Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Raymond-Kesler-Horton
Bernier-D.Moore-Hansen
Glass-Rypien-Carter
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Niedermayer-Mitchell
Salo-Edler
Ehrhoff-Sedinberg
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Luongo
Raycroft


Atleast get my roster right man.

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Did you just say that Poti is better then Mitchell???

Your defensive can score goals, and thats about it. They would be useless on the PK, and get lit up by the Sedins.


it says

Poti<Mitchell

no I did not.

Mitchell is very underrated IMO

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Atleast get my roster right man.
Sorry man.

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Sharks are (vancouver also was wrong):

Heatley-Thornton-Setoguchi
Marleau-Couture-Pavelski
McGin-Malhotra-Park
Orrtmeyr-Nicol-Brown


Boyle-Murray
Vlasic-Wiznewski
Blake-Sbisa/Demers/Petrecki

Nabakov

Also, if you have Kesler going against Nichol, you are in for a world of hurt. It means either Thornton-Heatley or Marleau Pavelski are going against your third or fourth line. Without a shutdown center, you'd have a rough time shutting one of them down.

Also, I take the Sharks bottom 6. Bernier is an edge on McGinn, but I think Malhorta is the better third line center. I think both teams have elite goons in Brown and Rick Rippen. Both are physical, mean, and can actually play. I can't say that I've seen enough of Vancouver's bottom 6, but Nichol, McGinn, Ortmeyer, and Malhorta have been excellent providing secondary scoring and grit. Not to mention every single one of my forwards plays on the penalty kill except Logan Couture and Jamie McGinn, and they were on the top pairing in Worchester, and Setoguchi who wouldn't no defense if it hit him in the face (actually he played pk in juniors, but thats another point). That means we could conceivably not play Marleau, Pavelski, Thornton, or Heatley on the PK, meaning extra even strength time for them.

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