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12-27-2009, 09:01 AM
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And he would have been the one, along with Filatov, with the most experience on NA rinks...

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12-27-2009, 11:11 AM
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the centers today were: Burmistrov, Trunev, Timkin and Telegin
Trunev not center.
The second line in the center was Khokhryakov.

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12-28-2009, 07:04 AM
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Trunev not center.
The second line in the center was Khokhryakov.
yes, I realize it now, just saw Trunev taking a face off and decided he was a center.

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Idiots.

That's the only way to describe this team.

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Лохи поганые, удоды лесные

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01-02-2010, 09:34 PM
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Лохи поганые, удоды лесные

let's not blame the players, the are products of the system, product of the country of Russia the way it is right now...

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01-03-2010, 01:56 AM
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overreacting....

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let's not blame the players, the are products of the system, product of the country of Russia the way it is right now...
You are taking this too far. Simply bad effort. I mean, it's simple: one period per game of givving 100% is not enough. I liked Plyuschev actually, but this time around he blew it. That's why: лохи

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01-04-2010, 08:40 AM
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You are taking this too far. Simply bad effort. I mean, it's simple: one period per game of givving 100% is not enough. I liked Plyuschev actually, but this time around he blew it. That's why: лохи
actually I haven't even started taking it far, just scratched the tip of the iceberg, taking it too vary would be "собрание сочинений".

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01-04-2010, 10:55 PM
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Many things are very wrong, but it starts at the top. I don't know who is responsible for appointing NT coaches ect. but something needs to happen. Getting finished by the Finns for 6th place is clearly unacceptable.

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01-05-2010, 03:49 PM
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I posted this on the other board but wanted to see the reaction from here, the heart of Russian hockey on HF:

Talked to Filatov after the game. He was very elusive, for the most part, on what he though led to the demise of the Russians at the 2010 World Junior Championship.

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Lead by the notoriously tough Vladimir Plyuschkev, the Russians finished sixth in the tournament after dropping the battle for fifth place with Finland Monday night.

Did Filatov think the team turned a deaf ear and a blind eye to some coaching they disagreed with?

“No comment,” he said. “I’m not going to say anything about it.”

After given the media’s take on what they saw, Filatov opened up a little.

“If it looked like this probably you’re right.”

“Probably no one expected us to be sixth in this tournament,” a frustrated Filatov said after losing to the Finns 4-3.

“I’m not going to say anything about coaches decision or about tactics or about players who can be playing. I’ve got my own opinion. Everybody should know if Russia is in the sixth place for the World Juniors, something really strange, so something was wrong probably.”

So should this serve as an eye-opener for the Russian Hockey Federation?

“Yeah I think so,” he said, again declining further comment.
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01-06-2010, 10:20 PM
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This was posted in another board but whatever http://thepipelineshow.blogspot.com/...-ing-ride.html

More on Plyushev the terrible. Says he went nuts a few times at the junior A tournament last year. Seriously, he is a mockery to the team. World class players with a house league coach = 6th place.

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01-06-2010, 10:23 PM
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Dmitry Kugryshev's opinion on what went wrong for Team Russia.

http://lejournaldequebec.canoe.ca/jo...06-213402.html

French article, so I'll translate:

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Dmitry Kugryshev is far from carrying coach Vladimir Plyushchev in his heart.


Plyushchev cut the Remparts forward from the Russian national team and thus, Kugryshev could not take part in the world championship junior for the third year in a row. In Saskatoon, Russians didn't do better than the sixth place, even losing against the Swiss.

“This is horrible to have finished sixth. Plyushchev is the worst coach that team Russian had in the last ten years”, said Kugryshev, who did not watch the competition on television.

At the end of the championship, the Russian coach blamed Nikita Filatov, his best player, to explain the failure of his team.

“This is not the Filatov's fault if everything went wrong. The coach had no playing system, no strategy. He only said to the others to pass the puck to Filatov and, then, Nikita could make what he wanted with it. It is impossible, on this level, to play without a game system. You cannot play this way against teams like Sweden, Finland, the United States and Finland. I discussed with Filatov, yesterday (Monday), and he is in fury!

“When the team loses, the coach loses as well. Filatov could not score ten goals per game. He couldn't play alone and he thinks he's going to come back in North America. ”

Attitude problems?

Before the competition, Plyushchev partly explained the cut of Kugryshev by his bad attitude during the camp in Saskatchewan.

“I do not understand why he declared such a thing because my attitude was always exemplary. He never spoke to me. He never even greeted me. He probably didn't like my face, that's all.

“The World Junior Championship is the biggest tournament in the world and Plyushchev made strange decisions. A lot of people thinks the same thing in Russia. Russian hockey must make an examination of conscience. Everything must be more professional, starting with the coaches. ”


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01-07-2010, 12:14 AM
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This makes a lot of sense. You can tell from moment one, none of these players wanted to be on that team. Now we know why.

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very predictable and very disappointing.

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01-07-2010, 09:17 AM
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and it really shows just how good those russian teams and players were in 2002 and 2003 to win gold and overcome plyuschev's "coaching."

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01-08-2010, 03:17 AM
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I also had my take about this year's fiasco: http://www.russianhockeyfans.com/pro...at-wjc-98.html

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01-08-2010, 08:09 AM
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said Kugryshev, who did not watch the competition on television.
, this sums it up for me, after that reading that article is useless.

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I also had my take about this year's fiasco: http://www.russianhockeyfans.com/pro...at-wjc-98.html
Thanks Alessandro ! Nicee read ...

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01-08-2010, 12:46 PM
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Getting finished by the Finns for 6th place is clearly unacceptable.
Not in this age group. Without Bobkov's heroics on two occasions, Finland has been better than Russia in junior tournaments. How long has Plyushchev been coaching this age group? Only at the U-20 or U-18 also? Seriously, he needs to go though. His comments after the Timkin-Granlund incident at the tournament in Finland was proof that he's an ass.

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WHJC is more for scouts and Canadians, I don't even get why send KHL players there, what do they have to prove? I think absence of Filatov and Kulemin will rid cska from two key forwards...I don't think KHL players should go to the WJHC...
I agree, once they have made the pros, thats kind of a step backwards.
We never send our NHL'ers to the WJC (this year pietragelo from st.louis but he wasn't getting much ice time)
But imagine Filatov was injured?
NHL teams think the same way, when asked to send Tavares, Stamkos or Duschene....the risk is too great!


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said Kugryshev, who did not watch the competition on television.
, this sums it up for me, after that reading that article is useless.
He just tells what he saw during the Subway series and the camp, as well as what Filatov told him. He's not talking about what he didn't see.

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it is very interesting to read about Pľuščev. The best is to blame for one player and do not think about myself.

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and it really shows just how good those russian teams and players were in 2002 and 2003 to win gold and overcome plyuschev's "coaching."
Plyushev wasnt coach at WJC 2003.

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Plyushev wasnt coach at WJC 2003.
you are correct. the point remains, i think.

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