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12-02-2009, 10:14 PM
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It will directly affect the Oilers for at least the next 5 years and probably longer.

There's a new dynasty being built in the WC and you can't win a cup without being better than and going through them.

The Oilers need to measure themselves against the Hawks or they aren't good enough.


Why hello thar Western Conference. Enjoy your visit in dynasty town.

Actually now I know how the Eastern Conference and the rest of the West must've felt in the 80s, lol.

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They'll have a good future, but I still question their goaltending. Huet is in no form to lead any team to the cup. They would of been better off with Khabby. And us with nothing.
Guess which team has the second lowest GA/G in the entire league?

Why it's those pesky Blackhawks who have the puck all the time.

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12-02-2009, 10:15 PM
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Why hello thar Western Conference. Enjoy your visit in dynasty town.

Actually now I know how the Eastern Conference and the rest of the West must've felt in the 80s, lol.
Hawks/Penguins finals should be classics

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12-02-2009, 10:16 PM
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Hawks/Penguins finals should be classics
Yeah.

Until you realize Crosby and Malkin are about a country mile better than either Kane or Toews, which is frightening.

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12-02-2009, 10:18 PM
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Guess which team has the second lowest GA/G in the entire league?

Why it's those pesky Blackhawks who have the puck all the time.
That certainly does help. Lol.

I should have scrolled down further and then I would have seen the Savard thread. Sorry, didn't mean to seem like I was giving you a hard time.

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12-02-2009, 10:19 PM
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Yeah.

Until you realize Crosby and Malkin are about a country mile better than either Kane or Toews, which is frightening.
True, but depth wise, I'd say Chicago has it over Pittsburgh.

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12-02-2009, 10:22 PM
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Pipeline is looking strong as well with Marcus Kruger, Dylan Olsen, Kyle Beach and Akim Aliu looking to fill various roles in the future.

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12-02-2009, 10:24 PM
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True, but depth wise, I'd say Chicago has it over Pittsburgh.
So did Detroit last year (ask Hossa).

The scariest part is you can't even use the "well they're too young, don't have the experience" card on Pittsburgh any more either.

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12-02-2009, 10:26 PM
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So did Detroit last year (ask Hossa).

The scariest part is you can't even use the "well they're too young, don't have the experience" card on Pittsburgh any more either.
I guess this will only be settled during the finals.

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12-02-2009, 10:28 PM
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Yeah.

Until you realize Crosby and Malkin are about a country mile better than either Kane or Toews, which is frightening.
They are better but Chicago has a better supporting cast and better defensemen.

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12-02-2009, 10:29 PM
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That certainly does help. Lol.

I should have scrolled down further and then I would have seen the Savard thread. Sorry, didn't mean to seem like I was giving you a hard time.
No worries.

I'm used to it.

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12-02-2009, 10:31 PM
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Guess which team has the second lowest GA/G in the entire league?

Why it's those pesky Blackhawks who have the puck all the time.
Okay so they're a good possession team, still doesn't make Huet a good goaltender.

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12-02-2009, 10:35 PM
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Okay so they're a good possession team, still doesn't make Huet a good goaltender.
Doesn't need to be.

Detroit has used the same model for years.

His SV% is .909/ 22nd in the league but the Hawks score almost a goal per game that they give up. That's a huge difference.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm...ewName=summary

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12-02-2009, 10:37 PM
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Any figures released yet, or still all speculation? Really hoping they don't take sweetheart deals.

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12-02-2009, 10:42 PM
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It'll be interesting to see what each of their terms are. Great work by the Hawks GM to get all three locked up.

Keith-Seabrook pairing is monstrous. Add in Hjarmlsson (sp?) and Barker, and you have a great Top-4.


I think this means Sopel is gone, but also Campbell may have to be sent down/attempted to be traded. Both make too much.


Interesting to see what they do.

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12-02-2009, 10:43 PM
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I hope Patrick Sharp becomes available as a result.
Sharp is not the type of player you get if you want to rebuild / reload. If we're picking someone from the Hawks' roster, I'd personally prefer Versteeg (yes, I realize he's another smaller player). Unfortunately he's already up at 3+ million a year according to capgeek.com and will look for another significant raise if he hits another 50+ pt. season.

The amount of points he produces per season is the level I would have expected O'Sullivan to be at. In any case, good on the Hawks for locking down their core -- I only wish we had those types of players and that kind of management.

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12-02-2009, 10:52 PM
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They are better but Chicago has a better supporting cast and better defensemen.
They aren't just "better". The gap is huge.

As good as Chicago's depth is, if Pitsburgh wants, they could have the best player on the ice 80% of the game.

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12-02-2009, 10:58 PM
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They aren't just "better". The gap is huge.

As good as Chicago's depth is, if Pitsburgh wants, they could have the best player on the ice 80% of the game.
Chicago is the youngest team in the league.

I know it's hard to believe but they're going to get a lot better.

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12-02-2009, 11:00 PM
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Besides, it's not like the Pens could beat an already stacked team that added Hossa in the offseason.

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12-02-2009, 11:03 PM
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Doesn't need to be.

Detroit has used the same model for years.

His SV% is .909/ 22nd in the league but the Hawks score almost a goal per game that they give up. That's a huge difference.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm...ewName=summary
Detroit had Lidstrom, who's really comparable on the Hawks? Keith and Seabrook are great, but Lidstrom like? What has Huet proven in the playoffs, or any other major event? He's puts up good regular season numbers for sure and the Hawks and Huet are hot right now.

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Sharp is not the type of player you get if you want to rebuild / reload. If we're picking someone from the Hawks' roster, I'd personally prefer Versteeg (yes, I realize he's another smaller player). Unfortunately he's already up at 3+ million a year according to capgeek.com and will look for another significant raise if he hits another 50+ pt. season.

The amount of points he produces per season is the level I would have expected O'Sullivan to be at. In any case, good on the Hawks for locking down their core -- I only wish we had those types of players and that kind of management.
You would pick Versteeg over Sharp for this Oiler team? Why? Sharp only possesses great speed, size, versatility, sniping ability, PK and PP ability
Versteeg, on the other hand, is small, can dangle well and has good speed, hmmm does anybody on our roster have those same abilities?

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12-02-2009, 11:08 PM
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Chicago is the youngest team in the league.

I know it's hard to believe but they're going to get a lot better.
Until the cap costs them some of their players.

That is the beauty of the situation the Pens find themselves in. They just need to surround Malkin and Crosby with adequate talent and they are in great shape.

I know you are big on avtar bets. I will bet you the Pens advance further in the playoffs than the Hawks.

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12-02-2009, 11:10 PM
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Detroit had Lidstrom, who's really comparable on the Hawks? Keith and Seabrook are great, but Lidstrom like? What has Huet proven in the playoffs, or any other major event? He's puts up good regular season numbers for sure and the Hawks and Huet are hot right now.
I know you want to think the Hawks are weak defensively but they're not. Only NJ gives up fewer goals per game.

Chicago likely has the best all round top 4 defensmen in the league and their forwards are well acquainted with their own end.

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You would pick Versteeg over Sharp for this Oiler team? Why? Sharp only possesses great speed, size, versatility, sniping ability, PK and PP ability
Versteeg, on the other hand, is small, can dangle well and has good speed, hmmm does anybody on our roster have those same abilities?
Minus the size (I don't think Versteeg is particularly speedy either but you'd have to ask a Hawk fan to be sure), Versteeg can also provide all of those things. He has 2 SH goals already. Unlike Sharp, he is also 4 years younger I believe. At 27, Sharp will be a bit on the older side by the time this team is ready. Are you always this touchy?

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12-02-2009, 11:13 PM
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Until the cap costs them some of their players.

That is the beauty of the situation the Pens find themselves in. They just need to surround Malkin and Crosby with adequate talent and they are in great shape.

I know you are big on avtar bets. I will bet you the Pens advance further in the playoffs than the Hawks.
I believe they can fix that by trading or demoting Campbell.

Crosby and Malkin are great players but the Pends are not invincible.

I'll take the bet.

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