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12-03-2009, 12:21 AM
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new Keith contract: benchmark for Suter\Weber?

I know the cap hit breaks down to 5.5 per year for 13 years, and I'm sure the Hawks got creative with the way it was structured(I really hate the way contracts can be so absurdly front loaded as a means to bypass the cap, hopefully it's addressed next CBA), but overall...if we could get Suter or Weber(or both) for comparable deals, would you do it?

I think if we could lock up Weber in particular in a "lifetime" deal such as this one, it'd be a steal for us.

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Weber/Suter for avg 5.5 cap hit each for a "lifetime" contract? HELL YEA!

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If the NHL continues to allow contracts like this, then yeah we should definitely take advantage of it. However, I am against this current trend of front loaded contracts. It's clear cap circumvention in my eyes.

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I understand the opposition to deals like these, but honestly I see it as the game within the game. No matter the rules, GMs will continue to find loopholes. It's why they get paid the money they do.

On point, lock them both up on extensions comparable to these and I'm ok with it provided we can get Rinne, too.

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I would absolutely give Suter and Weber the EXACT same deal as Keith. Hopefully for more around 8-10 years for sure. 13 years is a too long but if we could get Weber signed with only a 1 million raise in cap hit and Suter signed with only a 2 mill raise in cap hit for a total of only 3 million more for both that would be unbelievable.

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I understand the opposition to deals like these, but honestly I see it as the game within the game. No matter the rules, GMs will continue to find loopholes. It's why they get paid the money they do.

On point, lock them both up on extensions comparable to these and I'm ok with it provided we can get Rinne, too.
I agree that this is the game within the game, and actually I bet this "loophole" was considered when they wrote up the current CBA- it only is really a problem if guys are being demoted to the minors left and right to avoid large cap hits to old players. The long term deals are good for fans since they reduce the amount of star player movement which is inherent in most free agency systems in modern sports, perhaps some modifications will come in the next CBA but overall I think the NHL's system is working better than those of the other major leagues right now.

you guys should definitely try to lock up Weber+Suter and build around that strong D-core, there should be decent veteran F options available to fill in if necessary on short-term deals in the near future, and if you have a top defence locked up it will go a long way toward being a perpetual contender and being competitive in FA signings of such vets.

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I agree that this is the game within the game, and actually I bet this "loophole" was considered when they wrote up the current CBA- it only is really a problem if guys are being demoted to the minors left and right to avoid large cap hits to old players. The long term deals are good for fans since they reduce the amount of star player movement which is inherent in most free agency systems in modern sports, perhaps some modifications will come in the next CBA but overall I think the NHL's system is working better than those of the other major leagues right now.

you guys should definitely try to lock up Weber+Suter and build around that strong D-core, there should be decent veteran F options available to fill in if necessary on short-term deals in the near future, and if you have a top defence locked up it will go a long way toward being a perpetual contender and being competitive in FA signings of such vets.
They may have thought of it, but then why are they investigating some of the long contracts? I just don't think they thought GMs would take it to such extreme.

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I would give Weber and Suter identical deals to Keith's without batting an eye.

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I would give Weber and Suter identical deals to Keith's without batting an eye.
You and me both.

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Nashville is not good

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Insightful post is insightful.

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I'll bite:

In terms of what?

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