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12-06-2009, 03:28 PM
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I personally want nothing to do with Spezza. He's good, but a pus*y. We have enough of those, just in a smaller pkg.
We need more crust, not less. Trading Souray for anybody with less crust makes no sense to me.

I dunno. JMO.

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12-06-2009, 03:38 PM
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I like Souray on the Oilers roster however something like this might make sense to management:

Bobby Ryan for Sheldon Souray
Have you forgotten when Lowe made a comment about Burke taking a player like Bobby Ryan at #2? I dont think Bobby Ryan would be to happy to be here, and we'd have a holdout for sure.

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This is like trading Hemsky to LA for Sean O'Donnell. We'd have to add a lot to Souray to even begin negotiations for Bobby Ryan.
Yeah, you must be 15

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So are you saying...

Ryan >>> Hemsky or Souray = O'Donnell
Beat me to it

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12-06-2009, 04:05 PM
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Something going on in Philly, and it's not good. It's a smell coming from the dressing room, and I can see some bodies moving out of there. They need a goaltender badly.

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12-06-2009, 04:07 PM
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I personally want nothing to do with Spezza. He's good, but a pus*y. We have enough of those, just in a smaller pkg.
We need more crust, not less. Trading Souray for anybody with less crust makes no sense to me.

I dunno. JMO.

You're not alone in that thinking. I think Spezza is a first class pu$$y as well. We don't need any more of those, even if they're over 6 feet in height.

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12-06-2009, 04:09 PM
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Something going on in Philly, and it's not good. It's a smell coming from the dressing room, and I can see some bodies moving out of there. They need a goaltender badly.
I said this in another thread... I'd love to see Carcillo here in Edmonton. He and Patty O re-united would make for some good times. I'm not sure the coaches could handle it, but those two are quite a pair. They're really good friends and despite Carcillo's reputation [and his suspension today for 4 games], he really is a good player. The entertainment value alone would be enough to make me sign on the dotted line.

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12-06-2009, 04:19 PM
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I said this in another thread... I'd love to see Carcillo here in Edmonton. He and Patty O re-united would make for some good times. I'm not sure the coaches could handle it, but those two are quite a pair. They're really good friends and despite Carcillo's reputation [and his suspension today for 4 games], he really is a good player. The entertainment value alone would be enough to make me sign on the dotted line.
Carcillo for Nilsson

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12-06-2009, 04:31 PM
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If Souray goes, it's for a futures centered deal. There's absolutely no point in trading him if you're trying to win-now.

Instead of names like Spezza and Volchenkov, a deal for Souray should look something more like this:

To

Jared Cowen
1st 2010
Cheechoo (dump)



Souray

That's out of thin air so don't get hung up on the specifics (it probably doesn't even work cap-wise) but that's the type of deal Souray needs to go for, if he goes at all.

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12-06-2009, 04:32 PM
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I said this in another thread... I'd love to see Carcillo here in Edmonton. He and Patty O re-united would make for some good times. I'm not sure the coaches could handle it, but those two are quite a pair. They're really good friends and despite Carcillo's reputation [and his suspension today for 4 games], he really is a good player. The entertainment value alone would be enough to make me sign on the dotted line.
Carcillo-Storini-Jacques/Stone

Blahahahahahah

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12-06-2009, 04:36 PM
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It is a tough decision--but I think the oilers need to trade either Souray or Lubor to free up some money for other positions or jsut to get further away from the cap for next year

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12-06-2009, 05:13 PM
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Carcillo-Storini-Jacques/Stone

Blahahahahahah
No way. Carcillo is too talented to play with those plugs.

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12-06-2009, 05:40 PM
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Something going on in Philly, and it's not good. It's a smell coming from the dressing room, and I can see some bodies moving out of there. They need a goaltender badly.
Rumour is that the whole team hates CFP. Go figure.

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12-06-2009, 05:48 PM
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No way. Carcillo is too talented to play with those plugs.
He's really not.

15-25-40 guy tops.

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12-06-2009, 05:59 PM
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Souray, Gagner/Cogs, and Edmonton's 2010 2nd for Ryan and Anaheim's 2010 1st?

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12-06-2009, 06:06 PM
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Souray, Gagner/Cogs, and Edmonton's 2010 2nd for Ryan and Anaheim's 2010 1st?
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You have a great sense of humour.

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12-06-2009, 06:19 PM
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If Souray goes, it's for a futures centered deal. There's absolutely no point in trading him if you're trying to win-now.

Instead of names like Spezza and Volchenkov, a deal for Souray should look something more like this:

To

Jared Cowen
1st 2010
Cheechoo (dump)



Souray

That's out of thin air so don't get hung up on the specifics (it probably doesn't even work cap-wise) but that's the type of deal Souray needs to go for, if he goes at all.
I understand what you're getting at JA.

But if you have surplus Dmen, and we can agree that our D corps is our strong suit,
trading Souray does not have to be for win-now reasons.

Trading for futures would be the preferred method of management indicating to fans a rebuild through the draft while at the same time divesting ourselves of a redundant asset (don't get me wrong; it would pain me to see Souray's leadership and grit depart).

But if we can still get rid of Souray and get a young, established, possibly developing building block, I wouldn't be averse to that notion either.

Spezza- something that we need more than what Souray brings.
Volchenkov - shoutdown, tough Dman would complement Smid.

Regardless of path chosen, it can still work towards a rebuild as you ascribe to.

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12-06-2009, 06:32 PM
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It has to be either Spezza or Staal if its indeed true

But I dont understand, why would we trade one of the only players who actually wanted to come to Edmonton?

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12-06-2009, 06:36 PM
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St. Louis is a team that is loaded with forwards but don't have a ton of blueliners.

I would try to target Berglund or McClement.

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12-06-2009, 06:37 PM
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I totally agree with this. (Minus the shot at Hemsky.) That's why we need to keep Lubo.
It wasn't exactly intended to be a shot, its just for me personally, I like the leaders who take nothing from nobody. And I think Souray fits that bill.

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12-06-2009, 07:43 PM
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I understand what you're getting at JA.

But if you have surplus Dmen, and we can agree that our D corps is our strong suit,
trading Souray does not have to be for win-now reasons.

Trading for futures would be the preferred method of management indicating to fans a rebuild through the draft while at the same time divesting ourselves of a redundant asset (don't get me wrong; it would pain me to see Souray's leadership and grit depart).

But if we can still get rid of Souray and get a young, established, possibly developing building block, I wouldn't be averse to that notion either.

Spezza- something that we need more than what Souray brings.
Volchenkov - shoutdown, tough Dman would complement Smid.

Regardless of path chosen, it can still work towards a rebuild as you ascribe to.
Well I know where you're coming from, but I made my last post with the thought in mind that no possible return you're going to be able to get for Souray could help this team more now. Would Spezza help this team more than Souray? Possibly. But at an additional 2M in capspace? And even getting past that I see absolutely zero chance of OTT making that deal.

I just can't envision any deal that benefits the Oilers more than having Souray here. We do have a surplus of offensive dmen, but Vis and Smid are already playing at basically their top end so you're asking Grebs or Gilby to shore up the hole left by Souray, which is a recipe for disaster. So the return has to compensate for that. And that's just not going to happen unless Tambo bends some other GM over the barrel sideways.

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12-06-2009, 09:14 PM
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If Souray goes, it's for a futures centered deal. There's absolutely no point in trading him if you're trying to win-now.

Instead of names like Spezza and Volchenkov, a deal for Souray should look something more like this:

To

Jared Cowen
1st 2010
Cheechoo (dump)



Souray

That's out of thin air so don't get hung up on the specifics (it probably doesn't even work cap-wise) but that's the type of deal Souray needs to go for, if he goes at all.
I don't think we are going to get that much for Souray.--I think if it's Cowen, there's no way Oilers' will get 1st rounder. Also, I can see Sens being more interested in Visnovsky--they have enough of big d-men who are not puck-movers (Phillips, Volchenkov, Kuba).

Visnovsky+Cogliano for Cowen, 1st this year, 2nd next year and Cheechoo.

A lesser deal Grebeshkov for Cowen.

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12-06-2009, 09:21 PM
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The detractors to a souray trade say we need his size & leadership! Hemsky is out for the year why is souray not wearing an "A". Maybe it's the conspiracy theorist in me but I still think he has asked to be moved.

How about Souray for stafford and a 1st or souray for colborne and a 1st! Boston has 2 this year anyway, I can't see them giving up the lottery pick but they may move theirs.

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I would love to see Carcillo here. He is a bit crazy but he is an element this team is missing.

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12-06-2009, 09:33 PM
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Rumour is that the whole team hates CFP. Go figure.
Really? Where'd you hear that?

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Shopping Souray? Is the Tank for real?

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Really? Where'd you hear that?
I've read it in a couple of media reports. I'm sure there would be a thread in the Flyers board

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