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12-07-2009, 10:43 PM
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When was the last time the habs had two top 30 players?

25th: Plekanec, 30GP, 28PTS
30th: Cammalleri, 30GP, 26PT (16 goals )

I know Kovalev was top 30 two years ago, but besides that I honestly can't remember. Don't even think the NHL had a website the last time this occurred.

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12-07-2009, 10:45 PM
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Cammy 9th in goals... Pleks 9th in assists.

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And yet we are still 28th in goals per game

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Good to hear.. You need these types of players to win championships...

I can still remember when TSN had Plekanec slated as having a career potential of 3rd line center lol!!

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when was the last time we saw a 40g (knock on wood) during a year...

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I wonder if Calgary fans cry about losing Cammalleri for nothing like most people here do about our former UFAs?

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I wonder if Calgary fans cry about losing Cammalleri for nothing like most people here do about our former UFAs?
Probably... They did get Jay-Bo though...

I dunno, I think I might have to scour their boards to see...

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And yet we are still 28th in goals per game
We've played a lot of games without our "first line" (Gomez-Gionta) and have been missing our PP wizard and transition expert (Markov) for all year.

I'm not THAT worried. Once we get the Cammy-Pleky-Kostitsyn trio a supporting cast we'll have a good team.

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And yet we are still 28th in goals per game
Missing our second best scorer (8 goals in 19 games), and our MVP / one of the best PP quarterback in the league.

The difference between 10th and 28th is half a goal per game... I think Markov and Gionta could very well provide that difference.

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So when was the last time?

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Ribeiro and Ryder were 30th and 32nd..

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So when was the last time?
well in 2007-2008 we had Kovy at 11th () overall, and Pleks was 41st, but only 3 points behind 28th place.

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Squid is 15th for +/- with +11

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when was the last time we saw a 40g (knock on wood) during a year...
During the game I was trying to remember the last time a Canadien scored 20 goals before christmas.

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Missing our second best scorer (8 goals in 19 games), and our MVP / one of the best PP quarterback in the league.

The difference between 10th and 28th is half a goal per game... I think Markov and Gionta could very well provide that difference.
You can also say that a simple 5 extra goals scored on PP, which would be a very plausible expectation were Markov and Gionta healthy, we'd be top5 on PP.
Those two guys would add a much needed depth on PP. Bergeron has become a must keep on that special team and Markov would do wonders for him (very much like he did for Streit and Souray).
Put the Gionta-Gomez-Cammy trio with them and you have a solid first unit.
Then you have Plek-Kost broz-Hammer-Spacek, for a great 2nd unit too.

So really, I don't think it's too far fetch to believe we could have had an extra 5 goals were they with us.


Considering the many games we've lost by only 1 goal, there's no reason to think those extra goals couldn't have made the difference. Maybe we'd be sitting 3rd in East ahead of Boston and Buffalo (granted they have games in hand).
It's arguable, but the fact it's discussable proves that our team does have definite potential.

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The last time was in 96-97 when Damphousse finished 21th with 81 points and Recchi 22nd with 80 points.

If I'm not wrong, it's the same year that Koivu was among the leaders before getting an injury.

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And yet we are still 28th in goals per game
Markov = at least 0.5 more goals per game = about 10th place.

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when was the last time we saw a 40g (knock on wood) during a year...
Damphousse in 93-94 and Bellows in 92-93 both did 40 goals.
But the last time a player did more than 40 was in 89-90, 20 seasons ago, when Richer scored 51 goals.

I don't think Cammalleri can get 50 goals, but I seriously think he can reach the 40 goals mark for the first time of his career.

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You can also say that a simple 5 extra goals scored on PP, which would be a very plausible expectation were Markov and Gionta healthy, we'd be top5 on PP.
Those two guys would add a much needed depth on PP. Bergeron has become a must keep on that special team and Markov would do wonders for him (very much like he did for Streit and Souray).
Put the Gionta-Gomez-Cammy trio with them and you have a solid first unit.
Then you have Plek-Kost broz-Hammer-Spacek, for a great 2nd unit too.

So really, I don't think it's too far fetch to believe we could have had an extra 5 goals were they with us.


Considering the many games we've lost by only 1 goal, there's no reason to think those extra goals couldn't have made the difference. Maybe we'd be sitting 3rd in East ahead of Boston and Buffalo (granted they have games in hand).
It's arguable, but the fact it's discussable proves that our team does have definite potential.
Add to this that the defense would be better off to, so maybe 5 less goals allowed (probably more than 5), and we're that much better in the W-L department.

And the youngsters have barely begun to contribute at a high level. If that kicks in too, you have the making for a repeat of 07-08 once this team gets it all together.

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Damphousse in 93-94 and Bellows in 92-93 both did 40 goals.
But the last time a player did more than 40 was in 89-90, 20 seasons ago, when Richer scored 51 goals.

I don't think Cammalleri can get 50 goals, but I seriously think he can reach the 40 goals mark for the first time of his career.
Hey you never know... he seemed really inspired with the legends and the centenial. He could very well be having a career season, its not entirely impossible.

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So when was the last time?
I'm guessing it was sometime (perhaps briefly) in '03/04, but I can't be bothered to check thoroughly enough to find out. It has been a while since 2 Habs have finished the season in the top 30 though, that's for sure.

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Add to this that the defense would be better off to, so maybe 5 less goals allowed (probably more than 5), and we're that much better in the W-L department.

And the youngsters have barely begun to contribute at a high level. If that kicks in too, you have the making for a repeat of 07-08 once this team gets it all together.
Yea. We have everything in place to become a Cinderella team for the 2nd half of the season. We could surprise people by the end of the year.

That being said, it can go the other way as well. More injuries, stagnant progression for youngsters, and we're a PO bubble team.

In the end, our potential is quite good.

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Hey you never know... he seemed really inspired with the legends and the centenial. He could very well be having a career season, its not entirely impossible.
There's only one way I can see this possible. If Martin stop changing his lines all the time. A guy like Cammalleri need to play with the best center every night to become even more efficient. The players need to create a chemistry so they can know exactly where they are on the ice without even looking, like Trottier & Bossy, Hull & Oates (And not Hall & Oates lol). I would definitely put Cammalleri with Gomez and wait to see what will happen. Plekanec is good, but IMO Gomez is way more complete and dangerous than Plekanec (even if the Stats shows different things right now). Also, Gomez is not afraid of crashing the net or going in traffic compared to Plekanec.

So.. If Martin put Cammalleri with Gomez, with the addition of Markov in maybe a month, I could start believing in Cammalleri's 50 goals!

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This season is terrible for us bipolar fans. Two games ago a lot of people (me included) were talking about the possibility of getting a high pick and the low probabilities of making the playoffs.

Today we plan on having this year's Cinderella team and do some damage in the POs. Hell, why not? Its much more fun than tanking after all

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