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12-18-2009, 11:15 AM
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Canucks Game - Father/Son Bonding

The family that plays together stays together. The Franklin family (father Garth William Franklin and son William Neil Franklin) of Burnaby appear to have really got into the "spirit" of the season.

During Wednesday's game against the Ducks the 53 year old father and his 22 year old son were taken into custody after assaulting a female security guard while being ejected from the building.

Who says families do not do things together any longer?

They can now have the pleasure of experiencing VPD holding cells, a Justice of the Peace bail hearing and a trip through the BC court system. It is stories like these that are truly heart-warming.

Reportedly both father and son remain big fans of Todd Bertuzzi and fondly recall Marty McSorley showing Brashear how the game is played.
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The 53-year-old father and his 22-year-old son are in custody after the alleged assault on a security officer at GM Place around 9:30 p.m.

Security guards were called to two disruptive men, who were being escorted from the building when the elder man "became aggressive and unco-operative," said VPD spokesman Lindsey Houghton in a release.

"While a female security officer was escorting the father out of the building, the son assaulted [her] from behind by putting her in a choke hold and dragging her to the ground."

Other GM Place security jumped to her aid and took control of the men, holding them until police arrived.
http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Ro...167/story.html

Perhaps this is the beginning of new father/son event the Canucks can promote?

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id be pissed if they took me away from a game i payed 300 + dollars for too

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12-18-2009, 11:48 AM
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id be pissed if they took me away from a game i payed 300 + dollars for too
No worries as long as one follows the Guest Code of Conduct at GM Place:
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12-18-2009, 11:49 AM
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id be pissed if they took me away from a game i payed 300 + dollars for too
yeah but to the point where you physically assault staff? That seems a bit silly IMO.

For those of you that are STH or Ice pack holders, what's the threshold for being kicked out? I've seen some pretty inebriated people at games before, but have never seen anyone actually get the boot.

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12-18-2009, 11:59 AM
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yeah but to the point where you physically assault staff? That seems a bit silly IMO.

For those of you that are STH or Ice pack holders, what's the threshold for being kicked out? I've seen some pretty inebriated people at games before, but have never seen anyone actually get the boot.
The rule is being intoxicated or impaired being sufficient cause:
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As a general rule as long as the person is not being disruptive and interfering with other fans, the staff does not intervene although they could do so.

I was at a game last season where a couple of yahoos were partying hearty and thought is was fun to put their feet up on the backs of patrons in front and kick the backs of the seats. They were ejected.

I have also seen ejections where the person continued to swear and use abusive language after a warning from security.

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yeah but to the point where you physically assault staff? That seems a bit silly IMO.

For those of you that are STH or Ice pack holders, what's the threshold for being kicked out? I've seen some pretty inebriated people at games before, but have never seen anyone actually get the boot.
It doesn't require a lot to be honest. One guy once got kicked out for literally chanting "Budaaaaaaaaaaaaaah" (for Budaj) for two periods. Someone complained, and bam, away he went.

Basically if anyone complains about your behaviour, the guards will warn you about it, and if you don't change, out you go. The guy getting kicked out for chanting budaj's name, I can't believe he got kicked out, but there you go.

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id be pissed if they took me away from a game i payed 300 + dollars for too
I'd be pissed if a bunch of drunk idiots ruined the game I played 300+ dollars to go see.

My experience at GM Place is that the staff there are more likely to be too lenient and not too strict. You can swear and get drunk as long as you aren't doing it excessively and ruining the experience for others then you are fine.

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And then people complain on this board that there's no atmosphere at GM Place.

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It doesn't require a lot to be honest. One guy once got kicked out for literally chanting "Budaaaaaaaaaaaaaah" (for Budaj) for two periods. Someone complained, and bam, away he went.

Basically if anyone complains about your behaviour, the guards will warn you about it, and if you don't change, out you go. The guy getting kicked out for chanting budaj's name, I can't believe he got kicked out, but there you go.
Yes agreed, Ive seen people at GM place get tossed for what I'd consider nothing more than being a loud fan.

Stuff you see in the stands in an NFL game wouldn't fly at a Canucks game. Loud cheering, yelling, dancing, constant standing and drinking.

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It doesn't require a lot to be honest. One guy once got kicked out for literally chanting "Budaaaaaaaaaaaaaah" (for Budaj) for two periods. Someone complained, and bam, away he went.

Basically if anyone complains about your behaviour, the guards will warn you about it, and if you don't change, out you go. The guy getting kicked out for chanting budaj's name, I can't believe he got kicked out, but there you go.
That seems like a really stupid reason to get kicked out. I have no problem with jackasses being given the boot (like those guys Wetcoaster mentioned), but fans taunting the opposition is awesome.

I went to an Arsenal vs Dynamo Kiev Champions League match last year in London, and we were sitting right by the Kiev section - the taunts and whatnot that went on there makes hockey look like golf (pre- Tiger Woods that is haha)

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That seems like a really stupid reason to get kicked out. I have no problem with jackasses being given the boot (like those guys Wetcoaster mentioned), but fans taunting the opposition is awesome.

I went to an Arsenal vs Dynamo Kiev Champions League match last year in London, and we were sitting right by the Kiev section - the taunts and whatnot that went on there makes hockey look like golf (pre- Tiger Woods that is haha)
I saw a similar thing two seasons back when an overly lubricated fan kept screaming "Turco Sucks". He was also standing continually during the play and screaming this. He was warned twice and then was ejected.

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It doesn't require a lot to be honest. One guy once got kicked out for literally chanting "Budaaaaaaaaaaaaaah" (for Budaj) for two periods. Someone complained, and bam, away he went.
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I saw a similar thing two seasons back when an overly lubricated fan kept screaming "Turco Sucks". He was also standing continually during the play and screaming this. He was warned twice and then was ejected.
People liked that should be kicked out for lack of creativity.

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I've been to plenty of games over the year, shouted plenty of things at player on the ice as of many people in my section. In my experience, security only intervenes if it's something that is impacting other patrons negatively - someone excessively loud to the point where others are annoyed, throwing things, generally drunk and disorderly, etc.

That said, security will always try the "escort" first. They don't want it to get violent, but I've seen plenty of instances where it has. I once saw about 6 guards escorting a guy out, they were just getting to the door when the genius turned and hit one of them in the face as hard as he could. The other five threw him to the ground and he got one hell of a beating.

The moral of the story is...don't screw with damn security. It's like cops - just do as they bloody well say and no one gets hurt.

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I went to an Arsenal vs Dynamo Kiev Champions League match last year in London, and we were sitting right by the Kiev section - the taunts and whatnot that went on there makes hockey look like golf (pre- Tiger Woods that is haha)
There may be a thin line between being irritating and providing a great atmosphere, but there's no doubt that the atmosphere you get in European matches make North Americans look like amateurs.

I once have been to a Olympique de Marseille game. When the fans at both sides of the end fields chanted their club song, it's quite something to behold.


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The one game I've been at GM place for, I was definitely intoxicated. We ended up with tickets in the no drinking section, so we were pounding 2 beers between each intermission. Second intermission we couldn't finish them fast enough so we were waiting by the section's entrance watching while we finished. The usher actually gave us better seats not in the family section so that we could sit down and drink. They get 2 thumbs up from me.

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If they were drunk and/or stupid enough to try to jump a security guard, they probably shouldn't have been in the arena anymore.

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And here I thought it was going to be a touching story...lol.
Well it kind of is literally heheh, I mean whoa! choke hold a chick from behind, keep that in the bedroom!

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And here I thought it was going to be a touching story...lol.
Well it kind of is literally heheh, I mean whoa! choke hold a chick from behind, keep that in the bedroom!
It was so "touching" that it resulted in assault charges.

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It doesn't require a lot to be honest. One guy once got kicked out for literally chanting "Budaaaaaaaaaaaaaah" (for Budaj) for two periods. Someone complained, and bam, away he went.
I sat a few rows above that guy before. He did not get kicked out.

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I sat a few rows above that guy before. He did not get kicked out.
I remember him getting removed. Security talked to him at the very least. I mean, I could have made the story grander over the year since it happened, but I just remember talking to my gf that it was odd that he was removed from the game. Plus I don't know why my subconcious would want to spice up a lame story like this but stranger things have happened.


Which section were you in? I will take your word over mine on this one, I just had a memory of him being gonzo in the 3rd period. Maybe he was just really really quiet, because at the very least, security did talk to him.

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i wonder if these 2 yahoos are members of hfboards so they could chime in on their perspective of things

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This is all because of MMA!

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i wonder if these 2 yahoos are members of hfboards so they could chime in on their perspective of things
Probably CDC members.

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i just found the son on facebook and sent a friend request

his father is one of his facebook friends too

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i just found the son on facebook and sent a friend request

his father is one of his facebook friends too
You first will need to answer a skill testing question:

Are you willing and able to put a choke hold on a female security guard?

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