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12-10-2009, 02:41 PM
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Montreal Facing "Six Figure" Fine for Playing Ineligible Player

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=301798

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It's a good bet the Montreal Canadiens will receive a significant (six figure) fine for playing an ineligible player on Tuesday night.

Ryan White was pulled from the game in the first period when the NHL noticed he was playing, but that the Canadiens had neglected to notify the league of his recall before the daily 5 p.m. deadline.

The Canadiens finished the game minus one forward. And now there is every reason to believe the Canadiens will be slapped with a hefty fine.

Had the league not noticed White's presence in the game, and had him pulled from the ice in the first period, it's quite likely the Canadiens would have had to forfeit their victory over the Ottawa Senators.

This violation is considered a serious breach and the feeling is the league will come down hard on Montreal to send a message throughout the league.

It's believed to be the first such incident since the lockout of 2004.

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12-10-2009, 02:48 PM
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Good. The league needs to make sure every team is held accountable and that rules are followed by EVERY team. That includes Montreal and Toronto, who seem to get whatever they want and flaunt the rules on a regular basis.

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It would hurt Montreal more to forfeit than it would to pay the fine, and that would send a much more important message. The NHL wussed out here, IMO.

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RY team. That includes Montreal and Toronto, who seem to get whatever they want and flaunt the rules on a regular basis.
Can you elaborate on this?

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12-10-2009, 03:39 PM
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I think we would need to hear Montreals side of things before we light the torches. Sounds like some kind of bureaucratic screw up.

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A Fine?! They should definitely have to forfeit the game! Even if White was only on the ice for a short period of time, it still could have been long enough to affect the outcome of the game.

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To me this is a very minor mistake, but to the NHL they seem to be pissed that GM's keep bending the rules so they are trying to make an example of the Habs.


I just wonder if say the league finds those email that Boston made an invalid contract with Savard, do they take all their points away?

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I think we would need to hear Montreals side of things before we light the torches. Sounds like some kind of bureaucratic screw up.
Half say Gainey is an idiot the other half say Bettman is an idiot.

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Oilers should do this with Jagr. Change his name to Ales Pisa or something.

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Except for the NHL is at fault as they allowed white to play in the game. THey revew the rosters before the games and said everyone was good to go. only later to realize they ****ed up.

Simple administration **** up nothing more

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Except for the NHL is at fault as they allowed white to play in the game. THey revew the rosters before the games and said everyone was good to go. only later to realize they ****ed up.

Simple administration **** up nothing more
If the NHL ****ed up then why did they pull White out? If they knew they made the mistake why would they do this and then why would McKenzie write about something that wasn't relevant? Generally speaking when Bob does articles like this it's because he has insider information.

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If the NHL ****ed up then why did they pull White out?
Because they realized they f**ked up?

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If they knew they made the mistake why would they do this
Because it's still against the rules.

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and then why would McKenzie write about something that wasn't relevant? Generally speaking when Bob does articles like this it's because he has insider information.
Because it involves one of Canada's biggest franchises getting dinged with a hefty fine? Because its rare? Lotsa reasons.

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A Fine?! They should definitely have to forfeit the game! Even if White was only on the ice for a short period of time, it still could have been long enough to affect the outcome of the game.
Yep.

At any other level of hockey on earth...if a team has an inelgible player on a roster...thats a forfeit. Everytime.

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Can you elaborate on this?
Not my original post, but how many tampering fines should the Maple Leafs have gotten over the last 18 months? You're telling me that Burke had NO IDEA he'd be offered the Leafs GM job when he suddenly quit the Ducks? Not to mention the whole Sedin fiasco?

There's a Guarantee Fairy on the fact that Edmonton would have gotten an ass full of Tampering Violation fines if they'd pulled those moves.


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All of this aside, it's nice to see the league at least actually enforcing ONE of their rules. Maybe now Campbell and Bettman can pull their heads the rest of the way out and actually take a f***ing notice every once in a while that players occasionally take head shots at one another, we might not have a death on the ice in the near future.

Yeah, like that will ever happen.

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Except for the NHL is at fault as they allowed white to play in the game. THey revew the rosters before the games and said everyone was good to go. only later to realize they ****ed up.

Simple administration **** up nothing more
I am not sure the roster is equal to the line-up card for a game, which is what the officials review before a game, specifically looking at the number of players. Meanwhile I believe the roster is the team currently with the big team, including guys PB guys. If the Canadiens did not notify the league that they were bringing him up, how would he be on the roster for the NHL to say he is not on the roster?

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I am not sure the roster is equal to the line-up card for a game, which is what the officials review before a game, specifically looking at the number of players. Meanwhile I believe the roster is the team currently with the big team, including guys PB guys. If the Canadiens did not notify the league that they were bringing him up, how would he be on the roster for the NHL to say he is not on the roster?
The Officials only look at the starting 6.

NHL looks at a roster that is sent to them. THey ok'd him to play then said awwwe **** we ****ed up.

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To me this is a very minor mistake, but to the NHL they seem to be pissed that GM's keep bending the rules so they are trying to make an example of the Habs.


I just wonder if say the league finds those email that Boston made an invalid contract with Savard, do they take all their points away?
If they don't what is to stop teams from not making this "mistake" again.

It has to be punished hard.

Most likely it was a legitimate mistake but if nothing was done, every GM in the NHL would use that new loophole!

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Ah, the NHL.

Someone gets half killed in a game -

"We'll let it go, it was probably unintentional and/or he's a star"

Administrative error -

"SIX FIGURE FINE! don't let them get away with it! Make sure no one else ever dares do it either!"

Good to see the NHL has it's priorities straight

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A Fine?! They should definitely have to forfeit the game! Even if White was only on the ice for a short period of time, it still could have been long enough to affect the outcome of the game.
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Yep.

At any other level of hockey on earth...if a team has an inelgible player on a roster...thats a forfeit. Everytime.
Totally in agreement with this.

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I agree with those that say forfeit. That is the only thing that matters. A fine is bs.

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If he was ineligible to play then a forfeit is the only logical option imo.

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Most likely missing paper work. A fine will do. I'm more concerned that Pronger went unpunished for his antics the other night unlike the the powers that be.

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Ah, the NHL.

Someone gets half killed in a game -

"We'll let it go, it was probably unintentional and/or he's a star"

Administrative error -

"SIX FIGURE FINE! don't let them get away with it! Make sure no one else ever dares do it either!"

Good to see the NHL has it's priorities straight

LOL Totally agree with you here. The league is making itself look like such a joke letting crap go, like the Richards one on Booth, with no punishments. I guess they figure they can hand out huge fines to teams though, without the union putting up a stink, and collect some $$$$$$.

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Can you elaborate on this?
I was wondering the same thing.

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