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12-11-2009, 06:22 PM
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I assume this is sarcasm? Mitchell has always shown a willingness to drop the gloves and I have never considered him a dirty player.
In 247 games for the Canucks, Mitchell has got in 7 fights.

That doesn't look like a willingness to fight, it looks like Vigneault told him to fight. Big difference. (Especially the 2 fights he had against Iginla).

Mitchell just does a lot of trash talking, especially when a referee is in front of him, or if he's in the penalty box, or if the player is smaller than him.

I remember Kane saying that Mitchell had words for him, which fired him up in game 6 to get the hat-trick 5 on 5... he said to ask Willie about it.

and this is not even bringing into consideration how horrendus this "defensive specialist" plays defensively. Hopefully Gillis is smart and invests that 3.5 million elsewhere this off-season.

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12-11-2009, 06:23 PM
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I remember Kane saying that Mitchell had words for him, which fired him up in game 6 to get the hat-trick 5 on 5... he said to ask Willie about it.
You're a pathetic hockey player if you need someone to "fire you up" in a playoff game. The hat trick is more attributable to weak goaltending than Mitchell.

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12-11-2009, 06:26 PM
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You're a pathetic hockey player if you need someone to "fire you up" in a playoff game. The hat trick is more attributable to weak goaltending than Mitchell.

That is literally a quote from Kane, i'll even look for a link.

Also have you forgetten about Iginla? How Vignealt benched Cooke for going after him and "firing" him up... some players play much better when motivated to.

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How am I pathetic?

That is literally a quote from Kane, i'll even look for a link.
I never called you pathetic. I said Kane would be pathetic if he needed external motivation for the playoffs (and yes, I remember Kane mentioning that.)

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12-11-2009, 06:32 PM
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I never called you pathetic. I said Kane would be pathetic if he needed external motivation for the playoffs (and yes, I remember Kane mentioning that.)
My bad, mis-read the first part.

Point being, he said Mitchell's comments was his motivation, Iginla is a similar player like that too. A lot of players use things like that to motivate them to prove the other wrong.

When I played hockey, coach told me, you can either let the trash talking get to you and take a stupid penalty and fight, or hit them where it most hurts and thats by getting the puck to the back of the net, and it's absolutely true.

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12-11-2009, 06:39 PM
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When I played hockey, coach told me, you can either let the trash talking get to you and take a stupid penalty and fight, or hit them where it most hurts and thats by getting the puck to the back of the net, and it's absolutely true.
Yeah but that's women's hockey - which everyone knows isn't all that competitive even at the highest level. You should have fought or taken a stupid penalty! Personally I'd rather watch a good old fasioned cat scrap on ice than a hig scoring women's hockey game.

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12-11-2009, 07:01 PM
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In 247 games for the Canucks, Mitchell has got in 7 fights.

That doesn't look like a willingness to fight, it looks like Vigneault told him to fight. Big difference. (Especially the 2 fights he had against Iginla).

Mitchell just does a lot of trash talking, especially when a referee is in front of him, or if he's in the penalty box, or if the player is smaller than him.

I remember Kane saying that Mitchell had words for him, which fired him up in game 6 to get the hat-trick 5 on 5... he said to ask Willie about it.

and this is not even bringing into consideration how horrendus this "defensive specialist" plays defensively. Hopefully Gillis is smart and invests that 3.5 million elsewhere this off-season.
He was a +29 last season playing against the opposition's best offensive players night in and night out.

As for Patrick Kane's scoreboard retaliation for Mitchell's trash talk, give me a frigging break. Mitchell was trying to get in his head, and it didn't work out. Turns out trash talk motivates Kane. Other guys, it drives them berserk and gets them off their game. Which is why almost every team in the league employs at least one if not a multitude of agitators, including Vancouver.

Mitchell wasn't great in the Chicago series, but neither were a number of Canucks, including golden boys Burrows and Kesler. If you're going to pillory players every time they make an error in judgement or come up short in a playoff series there won't be anyone left on the team.

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12-11-2009, 07:06 PM
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Players don't generally need to get told they suck / made fun of to get "fired up" to play well, that's a complete post ex facto explanation and says nothing about the process. If Luongo had been on that night and stopped all of Kane's shots we'd be singing a different story. Point being Franzen ripping out his mouthguard didn't fire him up to score another hatty and dominate Detroit, so it's a real erroneous conclusion to draw there...

In addition, sometimes even the best players when they get fired up...



We all know what can happen. It's not that cut and dry.

Anyway good for Mitchell and Kesler, team fighting always turns out for the best

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12-11-2009, 07:39 PM
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Mitchell is an environmental guy. Rides his bike, drives a Prius (if I remember correctly). Kesler drives an Escalade (or a Navigator. Same thing, really. Whichever it is, it's black and gigantic.).

There, I just figured it out.
Someone's over compensating.

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12-11-2009, 08:12 PM
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so everytime the canucks are in trouble, mitchell will just start a fight with a random teammate until it gets the team back on track ?

Can't wait until it's wellwood's turn

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12-11-2009, 08:45 PM
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That doesn't look like a willingness to fight, it looks like Vigneault told him to fight. Big difference. (Especially the 2 fights he had against Iginla).
Wow, I can't even believe you made this connection.

How does it look at all like AV told Mitchell to fight Iginla? Honestly, this is an untenable position to hold.
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I remember Kane saying that Mitchell had words for him, which fired him up in game 6 to get the hat-trick 5 on 5... he said to ask Willie about it.
I guess Mitchell's trash talk didn't quite strike the same chord in the games Kane was invisible in?


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The coach never directly tells someone to fight. Nobody wants to get sued.

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Why is Kesler such a fratboy? He's an awful speaker.

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I never really liked the idea that fighting in practice is "a good thing because it means they care". Maybe sometimes it does, but certainly not always. You never here about the Red Wings players fighting in practice.. just saying.

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I never really liked the idea that fighting in practice is "a good thing because it means they care". Maybe sometimes it does, but certainly not always. You never here about the Red Wings players fighting in practice.. just saying.
I agree. I don't know why everyone seems to think this is a good thing.

Grasping at straws much? They just won a game. Why would they need to resort to fighting amongst themselves? To show that they got some fire in their bellies??

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I agree. I don't know why everyone seems to think this is a good thing.

Grasping at straws much? They just won a game. Why would they need to resort to fighting amongst themselves? To show that they got some fire in their bellies??
If two fairly agitating guys are going 100% at practice, I wouldn't think it out of the ordinary for a small scuff up to happen...

That said, like other's have mentioned, I wouldn't be surprised if the Team1040 has overblown this like the "OMG Mitchell kills O'Brien" discussion that took place on Pratt and Taylor later that afternoon.

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I never called you pathetic. I said Kane would be pathetic if he needed external motivation for the playoffs (and yes, I remember Kane mentioning that.)
Well, another Chicago athlete (MJ) made a hall of fame career out of using percieved slights by his opponents to elevate his game during playoffs or marquee encounters.

The concept that professional athletes are some how robots and are unable to be affected (either positively or negatively) psychologically is nonsense.

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Looks like Gillis got in on the action too:

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Canucks GM Mike Gillis said on his weekly radio spot on TEAM 1040 that his dissatisfaction with the club's performance over the first 30 games (16-14-0) had been communicated to the players. Gillis addressed the team following the morning gameday skate on Thursday.

“With the results from the first 30 games and now that we have a healthy lineup, that's not going to be tolerated,” said Gillis.

“If you take good players out of the lineup you are going to struggle to succeed... (But) it's not easier to stomach because there were games that I thought we should have won because we didn't have consistent effort even with the lineup we had.”

Gillis said the team hasn't displayed the energy level it did last season.

“There was a sense of complacency,” he said. “I think our guys thought, OK, let's just get back in the playoffs and redeem ourselves for what happened with Chicago and forgot you've got to play 82 games to get into the playoffs. I think now it's been imparted to them that no one's happy with where we sit today. I believe this team is a better one than we had last year and we've yet to show it on a consistent basis.”

Gillis added: “I think we have to look in the mirror and realize how important this is and I think we're there.”
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You never here about the Red Wings players fighting in practice.. just saying.
Christ am I ever sick of hearing about what the Red Wings do or don't do.

This whole thing is incredibly overblown, a bunch of f-bombs and a headline on a blog post from a third-rate reporter don't make a fight.

Note that we have absolutely no indication that anyone took a swing at anyone else.

So why the **** does anybody care?

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Christ am I ever sick of hearing about what the Red Wings do or don't do.

This whole thing is incredibly overblown, a bunch of f-bombs and a headline on a blog post from a third-rate reporter don't make a fight.

Note that we have absolutely no indication that anyone took a swing at anyone else.

So why the **** does anybody care?
Last night on SportsNet Connected they played the video. When things were getting heated several other players stepped in and separated the Mitchell and Kesler. One report said Kesler was upset that Willie had laid the lumber across his wrists during a five on five drill.
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That was the case on Friday at GM Place when Vancouver Canucks assistant captains Willie Mitchell and Ryan Kesler had to be separated by teammates when tempers flared in a five on five drill at practice. Both players were nose to nose and yapping at each other and Mitchell was offering to wipe Kesler's visor with his glove before several teammates interceded.
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Head coach Alain Vigneault dismissed the incident, mirthfully.

“It's two brothers disagreeing about what's happening on the ice,” said Vigneault. “It happens everywhere. It happens in families. It happens on the ice in a physical, contact sport. I'm sure they've all kissed and made up now.”
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Last night on SportsNet Connected they played the video. When things were getting heated several other players stepped in and separated the Mitchell and Kesler. One report said Kesler was upset that Willie had laid the lumber across his wrists during a five on five drill.

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Kesler and Mitchell sitting in a tree... K-I-S-S-I-N-G.

I bet Shane O'Brien's going to be jealous after he and Kes shared a moment during the Eastern road trip


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so everytime the canucks are in trouble, mitchell will just start a fight with a random teammate until it gets the team back on track ?

Can't wait until it's wellwood's turn
LOL, ya really

and rypien....who's going to step in and break that up?

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