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12-11-2009, 05:25 AM
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Chris Lee: Be sure to file a complaint at the NHL officials site

That was such an incompetent call by Chris Lee last night against the Pens

It gets even worse when you review the disallowed goal a few times...

http://www.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?h...=sb:highlights

Please be sure to let the NHL know about it if you had any issues with it.

http://www.nhlofficials.com/contact.asp

Ps. Obviously its only one ref call in a long season... but it was still incompetent nevertheless


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That was such an incompetent call by Chris Lee last night against the Pens

It gets even worse when you review the disallowed goal a few times...

http://www.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?h...=sb:highlights

Please be sure to let the NHL know about it if you had any issues with it.

http://www.nhlofficials.com/contact.asp

Ps. Obviously its only one ref call in a long season... but it was still incompetent nevertheless
you're kidding right?

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watch the habs missing the playoffs with just one point needed

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Is was clear as day that the puck was in before the whistle.
At least review the play and he wouldnt even do that.
He needs to lose his job or be sent to the ECHL to ref

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12-11-2009, 07:44 AM
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I lodged a complaint. Do I expect them to do anything? No. Still they should hear from some of us to make sure Lee doesn't get any important games in the future and possibly never do a Habs game again.

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Is was clear as day that the puck was in before the whistle.
At least review the play and he wouldnt even do that.
He needs to lose his job or be sent to the ECHL to ref
Doesnt matter if the puck was in.....it happend earlier this week as well in another game.
It doesnt have to be the sound of the whistle that stops the play.
If the ref is in the motion of putting the whistle in his mouth to stop the play.
It's his intention that counts

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Doesnt matter if the puck was in.....it happend earlier this week as well in another game.
It doesnt have to be the sound of the whistle that stops the play.
If the ref is in the motion of putting the whistle in his mouth to stop the play.
It's his intention that counts
Yes you are right. Happened to the Red Wings earlier in the year. The play stops at the time that the referee intends to blow the whistle, not when it actually happens.

That being said, the puck was loose and he shouldn't have been blowing the whistle. But what can you do?

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Doesnt matter if the puck was in.....it happend earlier this week as well in another game.
It doesnt have to be the sound of the whistle that stops the play.
If the ref is in the motion of putting the whistle in his mouth to stop the play.
It's his intention that counts
His intention was to point to the net for a goal. He changed his mind. Brain fart? Perhaps, but when such a conflict of opinion happens, you need to review the play. He did not do it, despite being confused on what the hell happened.

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Not allowing a goal review shows a lack of professionalism, and Chris has been in this league long enough to know better. Reffing against original six teams has become extremely suspicious over the years, and it is the same case for teams (new or not) with $ problem. Just think "Crosby lottery" and you'll realize how this league manages its business. Like any other business, to make money, and any means justify the end, as always.

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Complaining to the league about refs, your funny...

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12-11-2009, 08:39 AM
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He will not be reprimended, he is reffing Habs games for a reason. The fix is on, no need for Montreal to win the Bell centre is always full. He deserves a good work over on a back street somewheres in the city. He has such a ****in little *****, and that ugly mug of his.

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Not allowing a goal review shows a lack of professionalism, and Chris has been in this league long enough to know better. Reffing against original six teams has become extremely suspicious over the years, and it is the same case for teams (new or not) with $ problem. Just think "Crosby lottery" and you'll realize how this league manages its business. Like any other business, to make money, and any means justify the end, as always.
Sadly this is not a reviewable play. The referee intended to blow the whistle. As soon as he decides in his head that the play is dead, it no longer becomes a reviewable play. Check this link out, it explains it from last month when Brad May's goal was disallowed.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=506731

"In this particular case, what would happen is we (in the League's video replay room in Toronto) would see the puck in the net and call the video goal judge and say, 'Please blow the horn and get the referee over here. We see a puck in the net that hasn't been ruled a goal,' " Murphy said. "At that point the referee would come over and we would have the discussion. Usually the referees know exactly what's happening and they would come to us and say, 'Listen, I blew the whistle or my intent to blow the whistle was there. I've got this play dead before the puck crosses the goal line.' No more need be said. Once we hear that, basically video review is now out of the process. We step aside and say it's a call made on the ice and it's a non-reviewable call. It's a whistle blown by the referee and it was blown or the intent to blow it was before the puck crossed the goal line."

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I demand a supreme court inquiry into the competence of Lee not just as an NHL ref but a full evaluation of his mental state. This inquiry should be followed by a complete CSIS and RCMP probe into the possible underworld connections and the game fixing that we all clearly saw. Canada has no Guantanamo bay to send him to but we do have les ile mouk mouk N 48 27' 0'' W 79 15' 58''

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Why the **** did he point to the goal line then change his mind??? The replay shows it going in basically same instant as whistle too.

Add to that the no call on the McKee flip out which woulda given the habs a 1:30 5v3 and he quite arguably robbed the habs of 2 goals and at least 1 point in standings.

Normally I don't whine about officials cuz they have a tough job and I think all teams get bad calls, but this is just OUTRAGEOUS. Compounded by the fact that this guy consistently blows these sort of calls, he should not be in NHL.

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Video review of goals is still allowed in the NHL right? So WHY wasn't that play reviewed? It was obviously a goal. All they had to do was look at the tape. I think the video room in TO should be allowed to overrule a ref who's obviously blown a call.

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Sadly this is not a reviewable play. The referee intended to blow the whistle. As soon as he decides in his head that the play is dead, it no longer becomes a reviewable play. Check this link out, it explains it from last month when Brad May's goal was disallowed.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=506731

"In this particular case, what would happen is we (in the League's video replay room in Toronto) would see the puck in the net and call the video goal judge and say, 'Please blow the horn and get the referee over here. We see a puck in the net that hasn't been ruled a goal,' " Murphy said. "At that point the referee would come over and we would have the discussion. Usually the referees know exactly what's happening and they would come to us and say, 'Listen, I blew the whistle or my intent to blow the whistle was there. I've got this play dead before the puck crosses the goal line.' No more need be said. Once we hear that, basically video review is now out of the process. We step aside and say it's a call made on the ice and it's a non-reviewable call. It's a whistle blown by the referee and it was blown or the intent to blow it was before the puck crossed the goal line."
That is such a cop out, especially since (as mentioned by several others) he initially was pointing for a goal.

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It won't do anything, I recall us filing complaints against a referee before and nothing ever happened.

However, the NHL really should change the rule. If the referee loses sight of the puck, but is not in adequate position to deem whether or not it was loose, and it ends up in the net, then the call shall be reviewed and the war room in Toronto should decide whether or not the goal will stand.

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Video review of goals is still allowed in the NHL right? So WHY wasn't that play reviewed? It was obviously a goal. All they had to do was look at the tape. I think the video room in TO should be allowed to overrule a ref who's obviously blown a call.

Did you even read the thread?

Habsslappy said it best.

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Sadly this is not a reviewable play. The referee intended to blow the whistle. As soon as he decides in his head that the play is dead, it no longer becomes a reviewable play. Check this link out, it explains it from last month when Brad May's goal was disallowed.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=506731

"In this particular case, what would happen is we (in the League's video replay room in Toronto) would see the puck in the net and call the video goal judge and say, 'Please blow the horn and get the referee over here. We see a puck in the net that hasn't been ruled a goal,' " Murphy said. "At that point the referee would come over and we would have the discussion. Usually the referees know exactly what's happening and they would come to us and say, 'Listen, I blew the whistle or my intent to blow the whistle was there. I've got this play dead before the puck crosses the goal line.' No more need be said. Once we hear that, basically video review is now out of the process. We step aside and say it's a call made on the ice and it's a non-reviewable call. It's a whistle blown by the referee and it was blown or the intent to blow it was before the puck crossed the goal line."


Unfortunately they can't review it.

Everyone makes mistakes. Players, Refs, Coaches, GMs and even yourself. I've made a few mistakes at work but I learn from them and that's what Chris Lee will do.

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Did you even read the thread?

Habsslappy said it best.





Unfortunately they can't review it.

Everyone makes mistakes. Players, Refs, Coaches, GMs and even yourself. I've made a few mistakes at work but I learn from them and that's what Chris Lee will do.
No, Chris Lee won't.

I'm telling you, he's done the same things in the QMJHL. He hasn't changed. He makes hockey games about him, he influences the game so people talk about him.

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Sadly this is not a reviewable play. The referee intended to blow the whistle. As soon as he decides in his head that the play is dead, it no longer becomes a reviewable play. Check this link out, it explains it from last month when Brad May's goal was disallowed.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=506731

"In this particular case, what would happen is we (in the League's video replay room in Toronto) would see the puck in the net and call the video goal judge and say, 'Please blow the horn and get the referee over here. We see a puck in the net that hasn't been ruled a goal,' " Murphy said. "At that point the referee would come over and we would have the discussion. Usually the referees know exactly what's happening and they would come to us and say, 'Listen, I blew the whistle or my intent to blow the whistle was there. I've got this play dead before the puck crosses the goal line.' No more need be said. Once we hear that, basically video review is now out of the process. We step aside and say it's a call made on the ice and it's a non-reviewable call. It's a whistle blown by the referee and it was blown or the intent to blow it was before the puck crossed the goal line."
If his intent was to blow it, let him know mission accomplished. Bettman works in mysterious ways.

You know, all kidding aside. If the Habs are going to be fined by the league for not submitting the paperwork on the White call up against the Senators then the league should fine refs for blowing plays. Considering there are now 2 refs on the ice and 2 linesman you'd think they could get it right. You'd think




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Did anyone mention that the habs could have at least got a point if Price wouldn't let that soft goal that would have gone a foot over the crossbar in the 3rd... Lee isn't the only one to blame... that also took something like 20 shots in the game... can't win much with 20 shots

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Did anyone mention that the habs could have at least got a point if Price wouldn't let that soft goal that would have gone a foot over the crossbar in the 3rd... Lee isn't the only one to blame... that also took something like 20 shots in the game... can't win much with 20 shots
True. I'm pissed as much as anyone about the call, but it isnt the reason we lost. We have to stop being a bunch of babies here.

We lost because we couldnt score more than the Penguines. END OF STORY.

We wouldnt have to discuss this dumb move if he out shot them and out scored them.

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I lodged a complaint. There are three Refs retiring this year. Unfortunately we will be left with crap like Lee. Does anyone know how to start a Fire Chris Lee website?

I am really pissed - not so much that the Habs lost but that there is such incompetence at the NHL level. The NHL should levy real punishment, like suspend a ref for 5 games if he screws up like that. Here is a rule change I believe should be implemented. If a any of the 4 officials see the puck frozen in the glove or pads they can blow the whistle dead to replace this silly thing that if the ref is blind for a second the play will die.

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There, done.
Not that I actually expect anything to happen. As long as the NHL reffing system isn't handled by a 3rd party, nothing substantial will ever happen.

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Video review of goals is still allowed in the NHL right? So WHY wasn't that play reviewed? It was obviously a goal. All they had to do was look at the tape. I think the video room in TO should be allowed to overrule a ref who's obviously blown a call.
The review would've confirmed a no goal. They wouldn't have gone on the grounds of the puck being loose, they'd be reviewing on intent to blow whistle.

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