So pretty much the whole team should have been there, no? And yet, Hartnell is "one of the only regulars" to show up? Doesn't that about sum up the heart of this team right now?
In times like these, "optional" skates are a way for a new coach to gauge just who really wants to turn things around and win. Of all freakin' people, Scott Hartnell shows up. This "team" has some serious mental issues.
Richards should have been there...that's for damn sure! He is playing like ass and is the captain. He should be leading by example, learning the new system, and helping others learn it. I don't give a **** how tired or injured he is!
Bruins fan here. Just curious what you think it would take for Jeff Carter to be a Bruin?
Honestly, you won't like the answer. Me personally, would die to see Milan Lucic on the Flyers, which of course will never happen (no need to tell me why).
Agreed. He's an Avs fan. I would think that they would have to give us a bit more if this was going to happen...
This is why I hate trade proposals all around. Most people usually follow one team, and they propose trades for outside players which they know essentially nothing about. That's why most of them have people go "WHY?" when a proposal is posted.
Not sure what your point is Kaktus.....Carter is much easier to deal than Briere, he is much younger and only signed for another year and then he is a restricted FA....His cap hit is also $1.5 less than Briere. This also give you another year of flexibility to worry about the cap.
Having two LONG-term deals like Vinny and Briere on the team is not a good idea in my opinion, there is absolutely NO flexibility there.
I am not arguing that Carter is easier to move then Briere but I do not want Carter to be moved. That’s why I said that it would be crazy to move Carter and to keep Briere. **** this plan.
Eww. His rationale for why Carter is untradeable and Richards isn't is really bad. Almost everyone would gladly trade Carter before Richards.
Don't count me among those people.
Carter has been the better player this year. The one giving the more consistant effort. Other than not finishing (obviously an issue) Carter has played well. Richards looks completely lost out there, and hasn't been the same player since the Booth hit.
Richards physical game has disappeared. He's turning the puck over at an absolutely alarming rate ... and has been far from anything resembling a great leader.
Carter was also the better player more often than not last season.
That being said the biggest reason I'd move Richards before Carter, is because we have someone (Giroux) that can very closely replace most of what Richards brings to the table. We have nobody that can come close to replacing Carter.
Giroux is a better stickhandler and playmaker already. Giroux's 5-on-5 defense is already right there with Richards (far and away the most overrated aspect of Richard's game).
Richards is the more physical player, but other than the occasional kill shot it's not overwhelmingly so.
Giroux is a good penalty killer, but Richards is the best penalty killing forward in the game today.
The biggest difference between the two of them is Richard's shot, which is significantly better than Claude's at this point. That being said, when he joined the Flyers Richards had a good slapshot, but no wristshot to speak of. It's something Giroux can certainly improve on.
Carter is the only forward we currently have that has elitle level physical skills (JVR likely will get there some day as well). While the finish hasn't been there so far this season, he's the closest thing we have to a game breaker. A small group of forwards gets even smaller without Carter.
Carter has been the better player this year. The one giving the more consistant effort. Other than not finishing (obviously an issue) Carter has played well. Richards looks completely lost out there, and hasn't been the same player since the Booth hit.
Richards physical game has disappeared. He's turning the puck over at an absolutely alarming rate ... and has been far from anything resembling a great leader.
Carter was also the better player more often than not last season.
That being said the biggest reason I'd move Richards before Carter, is because we have someone (Giroux) that can very closely replace most of what Richards brings to the table. We have nobody that can come close to replacing Carter.
Giroux is a better stickhandler and playmaker already. Giroux's 5-on-5 defense is already right there with Richards (far and away the most overrated aspect of Richard's game).
Richards is the more physical player, but other than the occasional kill shot it's not overwhelmingly so.
Giroux is a good penalty killer, but Richards is the best penalty killing forward in the game today.
The biggest difference between the two of them is Richard's shot, which is significantly better than Claude's at this point. That being said, when he joined the Flyers Richards had a good slapshot, but no wristshot to speak of. It's something Giroux can certainly improve on.
Carter is the only forward we currently have that has elitle level physical skills (JVR likely will get there some day as well). While the finish hasn't been there so far this season, he's the closest thing we have to a game breaker. A small group of forwards gets even smaller without Carter.
Even if it makes sense, what you wrote above. I do not want to think a single second about the possibility of moving Mike Richards. For me, he is everything, a Flyers player need to be made of. He'll be back, count on it.
On the other hand, Carter has a wicked wrister...true. He is tall, talented and his shot gives him game-breaker abilities.
What are the chances of seeing Matsumoto get some ice time this season? I was kind of hoping they'd call him up and give him a shot (no knock against Kalinski, I love the dude.)
Even if it makes sense, what you wrote above. I do not want to think a single second about the possibility of moving Mike Richards. For me, he is everything, a Flyers player need to be made of. He'll be back, count on it.
On the other hand, Carter has a wicked wrister...true. He is tall, talented and his shot gives him game-breaker abilities.
Nevertheless I'd trade him first.
Carter or Richards ... who has been the better player over the last since the start of the 2008-09 season. If each night you had to choose whoch of the two has been the better player, I'd be quite confident than the number would be 70-50 in Carter's favor.
He's been the better player and is more difficult to replace.
I deally they both start playing better and neither is moved .... but if one is moved because of either continued poor play, or just because they want to change the make-up of the team and believe that Richards, Carter and Giroux all play better when playing center (true IMO) ... Richards should be the one moved.
One thing the team does need to do if it makes any trades, is get bigger up front. We are far too easy to play against.
What are the chances of seeing Matsumoto get some ice time this season? I was kind of hoping they'd call him up and give him a shot (no knock against Kalinski, I love the dude.)
None.
For whatever reason, no matter how many injuries we have, they have never called him up. Not sure the reason why, but he's way down on the depth chart.
Carter or Richards ... who has been the better player over the last since the start of the 2008-09 season. If each night you had to choose whoch of the two has been the better player, I'd be quite confident than the number would be 70-50 in Carter's favor.
He's been the better player and is more difficult to replace.
I deally they both start playing better and neither is moved .... but if one is moved because of either continued poor play, or just because they want to change the make-up of the team and believe that Richards, Carter and Giroux all play better when playing center (true IMO) ... Richards should be the one moved.
One thing the team does need to do if it makes any trades, is get bigger up front. We are far too easy to play against.
Just a question, I'm not too familiar with trades of the past. How often is a player with a contract the length of Richards' moved? I don't remember hearing about it happening too much. I am just curious.
For whatever reason, no matter how many injuries we have, they have never called him up. Not sure the reason why, but he's way down on the depth chart.
Who would be the next in line? I don't see what the point is in keeping him if he'll never get a chance, especially when he is somewhat touted as a good prospect in our system (or maybe I'm ill informed.)
Carter or Richards ... who has been the better player over the last since the start of the 2008-09 season. If each night you had to choose whoch of the two has been the better player, I'd be quite confident than the number would be 70-50 in Carter's favor.
He's been the better player and is more difficult to replace.
I deally they both start playing better and neither is moved .... but if one is moved because of either continued poor play, or just because they want to change the make-up of the team and believe that Richards, Carter and Giroux all play better when playing center (true IMO) ... Richards should be the one moved.
One thing the team does need to do if it makes any trades, is get bigger up front. We are far too easy to play against.
As I stated before, even if it makes sense, I AM BIASED. Ask the question other posters, because from me, you'll always get the same response.
Call me whatever you want, but that's the way it is.
Carter or Richards ... who has been the better player over the last since the start of the 2008-09 season. If each night you had to choose whoch of the two has been the better player, I'd be quite confident than the number would be 70-50 in Carter's favor.
He's been the better player and is more difficult to replace.
I deally they both start playing better and neither is moved .... but if one is moved because of either continued poor play, or just because they want to change the make-up of the team and believe that Richards, Carter and Giroux all play better when playing center (true IMO) ... Richards should be the one moved.
One thing the team does need to do if it makes any trades, is get bigger up front. We are far too easy to play against.
Richards was by far the better player in the playoffs.
As I stated before, even if it makes sense, I AM BIASED. Ask the question other posters, because from me, you'll always get the same response.
Call me whatever you want, but that's the way it is.
Try looking outside the box, it helps you get a better prospective on everything instead.
That being said, I like Richards and all, but he really hasnt been amazing either these past few games. The difference though, which I think John you can agree also, Richards is more looked at as the head of the franchise then Carter is. Points wise, Carter wins. Leadership/the face of the team, Richards wins.
Try looking outside the box, it helps you get a better prospective on everything instead.
That being said, I like Richards and all, but he really hasnt been amazing either these past few games. The difference though, which I think John you can agree also, Richards is more looked at as the head of the franchise then Carter is. Points wise, Carter wins. Leadership/the face of the team, Richards wins.
Isn't that usually the duty of a captain anyways? It's to be a leader, not necessarily a point man usually.
Try looking outside the box, it helps you get a better prospective on everything instead.
That being said, I like Richards and all, but he really hasnt been amazing either these past few games. The difference though, which I think John you can agree also, Richards is more looked at as the head of the franchise then Carter is. Points wise, Carter wins. Leadership/the face of the team, Richards wins.
I agree that the Flyers see Richards as more of the face of the franchise, and I don't think that he will be traded. I was talking about if I was the GM.
So, far Richards "leadership" qualities are highly overrated. He shouldn't have been named the captain when he was.
His quotes/comments after the games late last season, and so far this season have been brutal. Certainly not what I want to hear from my captain. Only in the last week, has he started to be honest .... but he surely isn't backing it up with his play.
Over the last 2 season I'm not just talking about Carter being better offensively, he's been the better all-around player. Offensively, they are very similar.
Richards was by far the better player in the playoffs.
I'll disagree there. Neither were very good last year, and were a big reason our season ended in 6 games. Richards was better than Carter, but both managed just 1 goal.
Carter also played the final 4 games with a seperated shoulder.
I'll disagree there. Neither were very good last year, and were a big reason our season ended in 6 games. Richards was better than Carter, but both managed just 1 goal.
Carter also played the final 4 games with a seperated shoulder.
Giroux and Gagne were our 2 best forwards.
Richards had 2 injured shoulders aswell remember? played the whole stretch and the playoffs with them
