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12-12-2009, 03:45 AM
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Pat Quinn Appreciation Thread

http://oilers.nhl.com/club/podcastpl...d=98&iid=18016

Man, Gramps brings a tear to my eye!

The Oilers are finally playing like a real hockey team.

The players deserve a ton of credit...

But Pat Quinn is the best thing to happen to the Oilers in 3 years.

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Especially since he stopped rolling 4 lines and let Tom Renney (Wayne Flemming? Bucky?) take over the line matching...

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Fire MacT.

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Especially since he stopped rolling 4 lines and let Tom Renney (Wayne Flemming? Bucky?) take over the line matching...
I appreciate his delegation skills.

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Fire MacT.
I haven't seen this team won soooo many puck & board battles in one game tonight for many years. Thanks to Quinn.

Quinn obviously has started to put his fingerprint on this team. And Penner, Stone, Stortini, Brule, JFJ, Souray, Smid are now key elements to this team. They win puck battles and create room for teammates, allowing the smaller skill players to at be more productive and effective. No wonder we played like crap when so many of those guys were out.

Did you see the winning goal Horcoff scored? It was not just Horcoff & Nilsson, it was also Stone that went to the net and took the crosscheck from the Right Dman, but in turns caused the Dman to lose position and Horcoff was free in front of the net. That's the way to play for this team to have any chance to be competitive.


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I absolutely love what Quinn and Renney have done with this team. I just hope those MacT supporters can now see that he infact did not know how to use most of his players and was one of the main reasons why the team never seemed to click most of the time.

This new coaching staff seems to give each player definitive roles unlike the previous coaching staff and you can clearly see the difference now. If MacT was still around, Jacques would be nothing more then a scrub, Brule and Stone would be buried in the minors and Penner would be in the dog house with a couple goals to show.


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It's been a great 5 game run...but we all know the Oilers too well.

What I find encouraging is that a mostly healthy team is getting it done, just like at the start of the season.

But don't get me wrong, I have the Oiler fan fear. I'm fully expecting them to lose the next 3, win 2, lose 2, win 3, lose 4, win 1, lose 1, win 2, lose 3, win 5, lose 6, etc etc

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It's been a great 5 game run...but we all know the Oilers too well.

What I find encouraging is that a mostly healthy team is getting it done, just like at the start of the season.

But don't get me wrong, I have the Oiler fan fear. I'm fully expecting them to lose the next 3, win 2, lose 2, win 3, lose 4, win 1, lose 1, win 2, lose 3, win 5, lose 6, etc etc
The important thing, that almost supercedes wins and losses, is that he's started to give this team an identity. And he's actually making players better by developing different facets of their game.

This will pay dividends in the long run.

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The important thing, that almost supercedes wins and losses, is that he's started to give this team an identity. And he's actually making players better by developing different facets of their game.

This will pay dividends in the long run.

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The biggest and only REAL difference with these teams is players knowing their roles and playing within those.

You don't have Hemsky and Penner (at least before Hemsky was injured) being relied upon to be defensive stalwarts who are also first liners.

You don't have Staios on the PP, except in very rare situations.

You don't have guys like Moreau being rewarded for hard work with PP ice time.

Every player, every line and every pairing knows what is expected of them and they go out and do it.

That, and Pat Quinn realized that they were just WAY too small last year and put guys in the line-up like Stone and Jacques over guys like Reddox and told them that their primary job is to HIT, HIT and HIT some more.

The only time this team has struggled in games this year was when a good chunk of their sandpaper and size (Those players primarily being: Souray, Smid, Staios, Moreau, Stone, Jacques, Stortini, Penner, Strudwick) were out of the line-up. And of those guys, there have already been 59 man-games lost. With all of those guys in the line-up, I'd love to see their record.

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Plus he now seems to know the players' names.

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Plus he now seems to know the players' names.
Nah... i think hes just guessing most of the time...

and who are we to doubt him if hes wrong!?

If it gets us into the playoffs, doesnt matter to me if he thinks our first line center is Khabibulin

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Plus he now seems to know the players' names.

Yes, but more oft than not he calls them Fancy Dan's.

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It's been a great 5 game run...but we all know the Oilers too well.

What I find encouraging is that a mostly healthy team is getting it done, just like at the start of the season.

But don't get me wrong, I have the Oiler fan fear. I'm fully expecting them to lose the next 3, win 2, lose 2, win 3, lose 4, win 1, lose 1, win 2, lose 3, win 5, lose 6, etc etc
The only difference in this case is that the Oilers seem to be playing well. In the past, the Oilers were ok, and managed to pull off 3 or 4 in a row. This time, they are harder to play against and they seem more focused.

But again, who knows.

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Especially since he stopped rolling 4 lines and let Tom Renney (Wayne Flemming? Bucky?) take over the line matching...

Is this true? I have kind of noticed a difference between the way he was talking before coming here ("don't believe in line matching") and what we've been seeing on the ice lately, but I didn't hear anything specifically to this effect in any interviews yet.

If its true, its a big piece to the puzzle. Line matching is extremely important when you have a roster make-up like ours... You need a composition of players much different from our own to even contemplate ignoring line matching in this day and age...

Great stuff, letting Renney/Fleming handle it.

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I absolutely love what Quinn and Renney have done with this team. I just hope those MacT supporters can now see that he infact did not know how to use most of his players and was one of the main reasons why the team never seemed to click most of the time.

This new coaching staff seems to give each player definitive roles unlike the previous coaching staff and you can clearly see the difference now. If MacT was still around, Jacques would be nothing more then a scrub, Brule and Stone would be buried in the minors and Penner would be in the dog house with a couple goals to show.
I don't count myself as a MacT supporter or detractor but I do count myself as one who does not think MacT was the main problem. It's not that I think that Quinn is a bad coach, I think think he's a good coach. I just see Quinn and MacT as being relatively interchangeable with respect to winning games.

With all respect, we can't know for sure how JFJ, Brule or Stone would have done in our system. If I recall, (and this is just an anecdote) MacT also used players of a similar vein in Winchester, JFJ, Stortini and Glenncross. Although I certainly agree that Penner has done better under current leadership.

Quinn has done well but frankly we're still in a similar position to where we were last year. In terms of goal differential and in terms of points we're still outside of the playoffs and behind 10 other teams in our conference. If that is the final result (11th place) can we really make the case that Quinn >> MacT?


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I don't count myself as a MacT supporter or detractor but I do count myself as one who does not think MacT was the main problem. It's not that I think that Quinn is a bad coach, I think think he's a good coach. I just see Quinn and MacT as being relatively interchangeable with respect to winning games.

With all respect, we can't know for sure how JFJ, Brule or Stone would have done in our system. If I recall, (and this is just an anecdote) MacT also used players of a similar vein in Winchester, JFJ, Stortini and Glenncross. Although I certainly agree that Penner has done better under current leadership.

Am I a moron, should I be ashamed of myself? After some honest thought, the answer is obviously no (at the very least I'm not a moron about this particular issue). Quinn has done well but frankly we're still in a similar position to where we were last year. In terms of goal differential and in terms of points we're still outside of the playoffs and behind 10 other teams in our conference. If that is the final result (11th place) can we really make the case that Quinn >> MacT?
If you cant tell the difference in how the team is playing the actual games (regardless of results) then maybe you need to take an honest look at that. Penner, Brule, JFJ, Stone, Smid are just some of the names that you can look at and wonder just where they might be if Mact were still in charge. Really I am so sick of people defending that guy. Just what has he ever accomplished?

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We still have major personnel issues with this team. That being said, thank the Lord for Quinn. Oiler hockey is exciting to watch again.

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I absolutely love what Quinn and Renney have done with this team. I just hope those MacT supporters can now see that he infact did not know how to use most of his players and was one of the main reasons why the team never seemed to click most of the time.

This new coaching staff seems to give each player definitive roles unlike the previous coaching staff and you can clearly see the difference now. If MacT was still around, Jacques would be nothing more then a scrub, Brule and Stone would be buried in the minors and Penner would be in the dog house with a couple goals to show.

Where are most of you morons who thought MacT was not the problem? You guys should seriously be ashamed of yourselves! I remember who some of you are but I'll save you the embarrassment for now. lol.
lol.....a 5 game winning streak and now everything is rosy in Oil country
don't they say to never get too high after a win and never get too down after a loss?

I've said all along this team is a bubble team...they could finish anywhere from 8th-12th

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All I want to say in Mac T's defense, is the man did coach the team to a cup final. And if not for Rolouson going down to injury, you guys may have won. Something has to be said about that.

I'm certainly happy Quinn finally landed somewhere else in the NHL. The man is a legendary coach, who deserves one last hurrah. If there's one thing this man can do, is rally the troops, and get them playing motivational hockey.

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I see guys oozing with confidence that were shells of their current selves under MacT. There is still work to be done, Cogs, Horcoff, Gilbert, and O'Sullivan all need to up their games, but beyond that the team is clicking pretty good right now.

I'm glad that they are able to put aside the tough times due to injuries and the flu and try to return to what they were doing to start the year. If they can keep down this path for most of the remainder of the season IMO this is a playoff bound team.

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Nah, coaching doesn't matter.

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I was one of the few skeptics, i'll admit, but boy was i wrong about him. Go Quinn!

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