Here's something to keep in mind. They really don't like what happened to Stevens, it killed motivation.
And they probably don't like Laviolette, he's yelling all the time. Sounds like success? No.
Who's they? I've seen stuff like this get thrown around all over the place. You think it's the whole team? 'Cause frankly if there are really issues with players not liking coaches, I think it's just like two or three guys, not the whole team.
On top of that, if there really are guys who can't take getting yelled at every now and then, they need to shed that prima donna **** and get over it.
Arent we getting back a former 40 goal scorer in a few days anyway?
I think it would be premature to do a major offensive shake up at the moment...at least see if the addition of Gagne helps...maybe a healthy Gagne is all this team needs to get its offense going again.
A trade wouldnt surprise me, but I would think itd either be for goalie help or a 2nd/3rd liner, probably a former Lavy player, before anything MAJOR happens...
Too bad. So sad. These players dont get a say in that, nor should they. If this were part of the problem, it just shows that this team is moist. Nothing but a bunch of cupcakes *****footing around.
Yeah that's why some of the key players could be replaced, this team is too stevenized, they can't handle a new coach, specially not the pissed off laviolette type. This will not work.
All these stupid ass rumors are starting to piss me off...can't wait til after friday so they can concentrate on winning games instead of all this drama
Staal's contract is horrendous. It's $8.25 for a long time. It's like a front loaded deal that never decreases.
25 year old, playoff proven performer. Yes, he's having a bad year (his injury really set him back) but he has scored 100 points with Laviolette as his coach and did so without having the linemates he would have if he were in Philadelphia. You're right, Staal would be horrendous.
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Kovalchuk and Giroux would be one of the nastiest duos ever. You can't be serious.
Kovalchuk-Giroux-JVR
Hartnell-Richards-Briere
wow
Is there any way the Flyers can get rid of Hartnell? I look at that top six and the one glaring thing I see is that Hartnell is still there. Get rid of that bonehead and get someone on there who can play and doesn't take the stupid penalties he does. He's been in the league for 8 seasons now and he still does stupid things. At some point, the stupidity needs to be some other franchise's problem.
I'd drop Fartnell at the drop of a dime to get Sharp back.
Yeah, and then next year you are going to have to pay Sharp more than "Fartnell" is making, for essentially the same amount of goals, and you have just made your top 6 very soft in the process
At best it is a lateral move offensively but you lose the grit factory and most likely need to give Sharp a raise above what Hartnell is making.
And Hartnell's numbers are on a team that has been absolute poop for the past month
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Kovalchuk is the kind of player who doesn't need a setup man, he carries the puck, shoots and scores. But a Kovalchuk line could benefit with a slick puck handling center with defensive capabilities. Namely Claude Giroux. You put a grinder on the right to clean up Ilya's rebounds and you've got a very dangerous line
Thats my point, he doesnt need a setup man which is essentially what Giroux is....Giroux is best when carrying the puck and making plays. Hey, maybe Giroux can adjust his game, that always a possibility, I just dont see it working out right but that is just my observation.
25 year old, playoff proven performer. Yes, he's having a bad year (his injury really set him back) but he has scored 100 points with Laviolette as his coach and did so without having the linemates he would have if he were in Philadelphia. You're right, Staal would be horrendous.
Not the player, the contract is horrendous. He's making Crosby money.
To be honest, even though it's a rumor, I'm scared and excited at the same time. The people I don't want gone:
Richards
Gagne
Briere
Carter
JvR
Giroux
Carcillo
Betts
Powe
Pyorala
Lappy
Timonen
Pronger... unless we do get someone better
Carle
Parent
Barts
That leaves Hartnell, Asham, Cote, Nodl, Laliberte, Syvret, and Coburn. I'd only give up Carter for Kovy. Pronger for someone as good or better than Kaberle. I know it's not offering much, but I want most of the core to be here. Probably if I were to pick 2 to stay, I'd say Richards and Gagne, especially Gagne.
25 year old, playoff proven performer. Yes, he's having a bad year (his injury really set him back) but he has scored 100 points with Laviolette as his coach and did so without having the linemates he would have if he were in Philadelphia. You're right, Staal would be horrendous.
Is there any way the Flyers can get rid of Hartnell? I look at that top six and the one glaring thing I see is that Hartnell is still there. Get rid of that bonehead and get someone on there who can play and doesn't take the stupid penalties he does. He's been in the league for 8 seasons now and he still does stupid things. At some point, the stupidity needs to be some other franchise's problem.
He said Staal's contract is horrendous, not that he is a horrendous player.
Wow, I love the fans of this team....The whole team goes in the crapper and we are picking on individual players....makes so much sense
John Doe* is the worst ****ing hockey blogger in the world. It makes it even worse that John Doe is associated with the Flyers. He needs to die a slow and horrible death. John Doe is possibly the worst person in the world. I'd rather let a rapist out of prison if it meant John Doe could take his place.
*Name changed to protect the rational.
Also, is anyone else tired of Wolfy's ********? I mean, he's fun to make fun of but I think we should just have a mass ignore at this point. He's almost as big a troll as I am when I'm drunk off my ass and see a retarded post. He adds nothing to the proceedings and he's not a Flyers fan. The mods of other boards would never allow a non-fan to stir up so much **** on a daily basis.
Also, is anyone else tired of Wolfy's ********? I mean, he's fun to make fun of but I think we should just have a mass ignore at this point. He's almost as big a troll as I am when I'm drunk off my ass and see a retarded post. He adds nothing to the proceedings and he's not a Flyers fan. The mods of other boards would never allow a non-fan to stir up so much **** on a daily basis.
First off, every time an Eklund topic is started, a puppy dies and I get pissed off. Now that that's out of the way...
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God I hope not, you just brought in a new coach...Give him a chance with the players that are here
If they have to now go and make another major deal after the Pronger deal, Homer needs to be fired instantly!
Like mentioned in another thread, the reason teams like Detroit and NJ have won multiple cups is because they have built teams the right way.....The teams dont completely change over every 2-3 years.
This team hasnt won because it has a win now at all costs mentality which didnt work before and certainly doesnt work now with the cap
You already have turned over Umberger, Lupul, Upshall, Downie, Smith, Hatcher, Knuble, Biron, Nitty in the past couple seasons.....ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
I agree with most of this. Hatcher wasn't traded or anything though. He got injured. Not the same thing.
Still, he's right I think. A reason why the Rags are always playing like they are (mediocre) is because every year they simply choose to retool by bringing in a bunch of UFAs and making some trades. Which is why they'll never win a cup with the same philosophy they've been employing for a while now.
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Also, is anyone else tired of Wolfy's ********? I mean, he's fun to make fun of but I think we should just have a mass ignore at this point. He's almost as big a troll as I am when I'm drunk off my ass and see a retarded post. He adds nothing to the proceedings and he's not a Flyers fan. The mods of other boards would never allow a non-fan to stir up so much **** on a daily basis.
I've been ignoring him since the beginning of the season. Either he's a troll or he's delusional. Either way it's pointless to argue with him and making fun of him is only entertaining for so long (especially with the mods roaming around).
Eklund being (i think) from Philly, does he have a (even very slightly) better accuracy at calling rumours concerning the Flyers than other teams? As he ever been right on a deal in Philly or is it the same?
John Doe* is the worst ****ing hockey blogger in the world. It makes it even worse that John Doe is associated with the Flyers. He needs to die a slow and horrible death. John Doe is possibly the worst person in the world. I'd rather let a rapist out of prison if it meant John Doe could take his place.
*Name changed to protect the rational.
Also, is anyone else tired of Wolfy's ********? I mean, he's fun to make fun of but I think we should just have a mass ignore at this point. He's almost as big a troll as I am when I'm drunk off my ass and see a retarded post. He adds nothing to the proceedings and he's not a Flyers fan. The mods of other boards would never allow a non-fan to stir up so much **** on a daily basis.
Also, is anyone else tired of Wolfy's ********? I mean, he's fun to make fun of but I think we should just have a mass ignore at this point. He's almost as big a troll as I am when I'm drunk off my ass and see a retarded post. He adds nothing to the proceedings and he's not a Flyers fan. The mods of other boards would never allow a non-fan to stir up so much **** on a daily basis.
There's nothing wrong with my comments in here, this is serious stuff and I'm far from trolling.
Maybe you should read the forum rules here, I've ignored your constant attacks on me because the mods are taking care of it. I suggest you simply put me on ignore if you don't like my posts or opinions.
He said Staal's contract is horrendous, not that he is a horrendous player.
Wow, I love the fans of this team....The whole team goes in the crapper and we are picking on individual players....makes so much sense
My hatred of Hartnell has stemmed for years. For what he brings to the table, he is nowhere near a 4.25 million dollar a year player. That's Daniel Alfredsson type money he's being paid. As well, in terms of the stupidity he brings on the ice, this isn't a one time thing. You go through his career and you can see that he's always been an idiot on the ice and never thinks when he's out there. If he ever used his brain a bit, he'd be a deadly hockey player.
I know the popular belief was that he was going to replace Knuble and the franchise wouldn't miss a beat. Hartnell hasn't done that. He was given a prime opportunity to take over a role in which he would have been good for 30 to 35 goals a year/65 to 70 points a year. Instead, he's wasted that opportunity and has continued with his boneheaded play. While Stevens can be held accountable for everyone digressing, Hartnell is ultimately responsible for not securing that opportunity that presented itself. Honestly, if he gets moved, you won't see me shed a tear.
There's nothing wrong with my comments in here, this is serious stuff and I'm far from trolling.
Maybe you should read the forum rules here, I've ignored your constant attacks on me because the mods are taking care of it. I suggest you simply put me on ignore if you don't like my posts or opinions.
My hatred of Hartnell has stemmed for years. For what he brings to the table, he is nowhere near a 4.25 million dollar a year player. That's Daniel Alfredsson type money he's being paid. As well, in terms of the stupidity he brings on the ice, this isn't a one time thing. You go through his career and you can see that he's always been an idiot on the ice and never thinks when he's out there. If he ever used his brain a bit, he'd be a deadly hockey player.
I know the popular belief was that he was going to replace Knuble and the franchise wouldn't miss a beat. Hartnell hasn't done that. He was given a prime opportunity to take over a role in which he would have been good for 30 to 35 goals a year/65 to 70 points a year. Instead, he's wasted that opportunity and has continued with his boneheaded play. While Stevens can be held accountable for everyone digressing, Hartnell is ultimately responsible for not securing that opportunity that presented itself. Honestly, if he gets moved, you won't see me shed a tear.
He had 30 goals last year, was on pace for that this year until the team tanked, is still 3rd on the team in scoring and leads the team in PP goals??? How is that not replacing Knuble? (ignoring Knuble's leadership)
Eklund being (i think) from Philly, does he have a (even very slightly) better accuracy at calling rumours concerning the Flyers than other teams? As he ever been right on a deal in Philly or is it the same?
Tim Panotch will throw him a scrap every once in a while. But he never has a scoop. He gets rumors from legit reporters and/or patrols HFboards and posts speculation that the fans themselves create. But he'll grab a drink with someone from the Flyers and post something unsubstantiated, something the beat reporters would never print.
There's nothing wrong with my comments in here, this is serious stuff and I'm far from trolling.
Maybe you should read the forum rules here, I've ignored your constant attacks on me because the mods are taking care of it. I suggest you simply put me on ignore if you don't like my posts or opinions.
Seriously guys, if you dont like Wolfy, just ignore the guy.
There's nothing wrong with my comments in here, this is serious stuff and I'm far from trolling.
You aren't a Flyers fan and this is a Flyers board. That's was ****ing wrong you little pissant. This is our place to rant and rave. Not yours. Even you want to follow the progress of a single player, that's fine. But you can do it on the main board like everyone else who wants to discuss the play of a single player. Just create an OKT thread and hope that someone else comes to discuss a mediocre 7th d-man with you. You post in here because you have what is tantamount to a captive audience. But piss off because this is for fans of the team. You aren't a fan. So you don't get to post here day in and day out.
