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12-16-2009, 07:33 PM
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DL won't be trading for Kovalchuk as he's not the type of GM to put all his eggs in 1 basket.

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12-16-2009, 08:28 PM
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Or.....

Kovalchuk will get young top line player, top prospect, 1st rounder, top 4 D-man... because He is Kovalchuk.
LOL Really?

A top six forward under, say 26, a blue chip prospect, a 1st rounder, and a top 4 dman, I guess the age there didn't matter,

For an unsigned UFA, who is very very talented, but, unsigned?

Really?

Interesting.

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12-16-2009, 10:13 PM
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lol it's going up a couple mill
How do you know?

Gary Bettman himself said earlier today that he expects revenues to stay flat and the cap to either go up or down by a million

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12-17-2009, 12:32 AM
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Schenn, Frolov, 1st
Done, if we are allowed to negotiate a contract with him prior to the deal going through.

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DL won't be trading for Kovalchuk as he's not the type of GM to put all his eggs in 1 basket.
He would if he is allowed to negotiate a contract, that is the only way though unless the price is ridiculously cheap... But DL already said that he would be interested in such a deal if he get negotiate a contract.

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12-17-2009, 01:09 AM
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done. any kings fan who doesn't take this, go out and get yourself a quack jersey, your brain is mush.
i woudn't do it..........

If we add a 10 Million man, we handcuff ourself to sign Doughty, Johnson and Frolov to long term contracts.

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12-17-2009, 01:11 AM
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to LA- Kovalchuk

to ATL- Thomas Hickey, Alexander Frolov, and Oscar Moller
(conditional if Kovalchuk resigns with LA)1st round picks in 2011 and 2012
As a Kings fan I'd do this, you have to give to get.

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12-17-2009, 01:34 AM
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If Kovy re-signs in L.A. that'd be a good deal. If he doesn't, Kings get *****. Half a season of Kovalchuk isn't worth Schenn, Frolov and a 1st.
Hypothetical of course

What if the Kings do that deal and they win the cup? After the season Kovy walks. Is it still not worth it?

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12-17-2009, 03:08 AM
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Hypothetical of course

What if the Kings do that deal and they win the cup? After the season Kovy walks. Is it still not worth it?
Problem is, I feel the kings are about a 4th line and a year or two of development for doughty, johnson and company from a cup.

But if they did, then it is a good trade.

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12-17-2009, 04:38 AM
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i woudn't do it..........

If we add a 10 Million man, we handcuff ourself to sign Doughty, Johnson and Frolov to long term contracts.
Kovy would probably take a little less to play on an up and coming team. Also the typical 12 yr deal or so would have a lower cap hit. Doughty should get a Keith like deal and JJ is still a work in progress. Frolov would be dealt.

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12-17-2009, 05:01 AM
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We won't win a Cup with Kovy, no thanks.

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12-17-2009, 05:19 AM
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We won't win a Cup with Kovy, no thanks.
Probably more likely to win with him than with Frolov. He's an elite talent with top 5 goal scoring and game breaking ability. Would you not want him if he agreed to a Lecavalier type deal at around a $7.5M cap hit?

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12-17-2009, 05:29 AM
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Probably more likely to win with him than with Frolov. He's an elite talent with top 5 goal scoring and game breaking ability. Would you not want him if he agreed to a Lecavalier type deal at around a $7.5M cap hit?
He doesn't know how to play as a teammate, yet. He is learning. Anderson has done wonders already.

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12-17-2009, 06:47 AM
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Kovy would probably take a little less to play on an up and coming team. Also the typical 12 yr deal or so would have a lower cap hit. Doughty should get a Keith like deal and JJ is still a work in progress. Frolov would be dealt.
Are you being serious?

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12-17-2009, 11:51 AM
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He doesn't know how to play as a teammate.
i lol'ed

there isn't a superstar in the league that takes up for thier teammates like kovalchuk

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12-17-2009, 11:55 AM
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As a Kings fan, I'd take Kovalchuk over any of our current players, other than perhaps Doughty. Even then, I'd call it a tie for the two.

Kovalchuk is a guy to build your team around for a cup run. Period. End of story.

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Or.....

Kovalchuk will get young top line player, top prospect, 1st rounder, top 4 D-man... because He is Kovalchuk.
Even Gretzky didnt get that kind of return when LA traded him.

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12-17-2009, 12:17 PM
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Even Gretzky didnt get that kind of return when LA traded him.
Because there was cold hard cash involved, which of course is against the rules now.

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12-17-2009, 12:44 PM
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i woudn't do it..........

If we add a 10 Million man, we handcuff ourself to sign Doughty, Johnson and Frolov to long term contracts.
You say that like it's a bad thing.

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12-17-2009, 12:48 PM
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You say that like it's a bad thing.
Johnson I'd hesitate right now to sign to more than 4 years. Doughty? I'd sign him for a bajillion years.

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12-17-2009, 01:03 PM
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Kovalchuk is a guy to build your team around for a cup run. Period. End of story.
i love Kovalchuk, but no.

the only winger you'd build a team around is Alex Ovechkin, and even then i'd be wary of the idea.


this isn't a Frolov, Moller or Purcell, a defense prospect and a slew of picks deal here... the starting price would be equal to - Brown, Johnson and this summer's first rounder.

and if i were Atlanta's GM, I'M asking for Wayne Simmonds.


so unless you'd be prepared to see the Kings cough up a return that resembles this, there shouldn't be a deal here.

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12-17-2009, 03:19 PM
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i love Kovalchuk, but no.

the only winger you'd build a team around is Alex Ovechkin, and even then i'd be wary of the idea.


this isn't a Frolov, Moller or Purcell, a defense prospect and a slew of picks deal here... the starting price would be equal to - Brown, Johnson and this summer's first rounder.

and if i were Atlanta's GM, I'M asking for Wayne Simmonds.


so unless you'd be prepared to see the Kings cough up a return that resembles this, there shouldn't be a deal here.
How long have you been working in the show?? no chance pal. not saying it happens but it will more around frolov + top prospect+ picks. Lombardi will make the trade that pushes us over just wait it out people.

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12-17-2009, 03:54 PM
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i love Kovalchuk, but no.

the only winger you'd build a team around is Alex Ovechkin, and even then i'd be wary of the idea.


this isn't a Frolov, Moller or Purcell, a defense prospect and a slew of picks deal here... the starting price would be equal to - Brown, Johnson and this summer's first rounder.

and if i were Atlanta's GM, I'M asking for Wayne Simmonds.


so unless you'd be prepared to see the Kings cough up a return that resembles this, there shouldn't be a deal here.
Yeah, we're going to disagree here.

He's a legendary winger. You forgot that part. He can steal a game with a blink of an eye.

LA would be crazy to not give up a couple of very good pieces for a player like Kov.

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12-17-2009, 03:59 PM
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i think if your LA you can do this. he sells tickets in LA is second most exciting player in the league in my book behind ovechkin. two first rounders may not be much they way LA is going now. oscar upside i do not think is as much as what you would think plus frolov is done. hickey may be intriging tho. hate the thought of losing two first rounders but kovalchuk does not come along that often. do it LA !

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12-17-2009, 05:35 PM
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Schenn, Frolov, 1st
You know it's a fair deal when you cringe at the thought of losing a prospect like Schenn and yet the temptation is still there.

Yeah, it's a fair deal but how about if we threw in couple of other prospects in lieu of Schenn:

LA

Kovy

ATL

Frolov
1st
Lokitionov
Hickey

I think we're overpaying here but I'd rather overpay than to lose Schenn.

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