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12-17-2009, 08:31 PM
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I think Blues fans are getting up there with Montreal proposals....they are that bad on the Blues board
What? You mean the new Ridder, Halek and a 2nd wouldn't get it done?

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you guys are cracking me up over here.

Ok carry on now.

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This just in from the Bruins board:

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Peter Chiarelli: "OK Jim, you give us Tuomo Ruutu for Michael Ryder and we'll agree to take Ward back on re-entry."
This would be great trade for Canes. Michael Ryder is awesome player, plus we save about a million dollars from them taking Ward. Pull the trigger, JR.

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12-17-2009, 10:06 PM
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Isles interested in Ward?

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Snow will claim him. He has too. With the situation and our defense, adding someone like Ward is a bonus. He can play some defense, and hopefully he finds his game a little as an Islander. He has a booming shot(to help our PP, give Streit some rest) and he won't be asked to play 25 minutes a night.
Yes, yes he does. Please take him.

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Isles interested in Ward?

Yes, yes he does. Please take him.
If I only had a dollar for all the broken plexiglass/herculite from his shots that missed over the years, missed by inches of burning the twine, that is.

New rumor is that, with Stahl's career in retrograde due to his advancing age, Dubinsky for Stawl straight up may be enough. Some expert who is never wrong, can't recal first name but his last name is Lesselk, just broke the news.

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12-18-2009, 09:58 AM
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I HAVE A TRADE TO ANNOUNCE.

THE CAROLINA HURRICANES HAVE ACQUIRED CENTER WAYNE PRIMEAU AND A 7TH ROUND PICK IN THE 2010 NHL ENTRY DRAFT FROM THE TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS



IN EXCHANGE, CAROLINA SENDS DEFENSEMAN JOANNA PITKENNIN AND THEIR 1ST ROUND PICK IN THE 2010 NHL ENTRY DRAFT TO TORONTO



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12-18-2009, 10:04 AM
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THIS IS A GREAT TRAED. PITKENNIN WAS RELLY SOFT WHILE PRIMO IS SUPER GRITTY AND PROVIDES LEADERSHIP. THE FIRST ROUND PICK COULD HVAE BEEN A BUST LIKE STEFAN OR BRENDL. LOOK AT THE PICKS LATE IN THE DRAFT LIEK ZETTERBURG AND DATSUK AND ULL SEE WHY THIS WAS AGREAT TRADE FOR US WE CAN GET A FRANCHISE PLAYER IN THE 7TH ROUND. CAN TBELIEVE U WANT TO TANK WHEN WE HAVE A SHOT AT MAKING A RUN AT THE CUP THANKFULY JR SAW THIS WE OWE IT TO VETRNS LIKE BRINDY AND ARON WARD TO GIVE ALL WEVE GOT 4 THE REST OF THE SEASON I THINK WE SHULD TRADE STALL 2 AND MAKE BIRNDY THE 1ST LINE CENTER.

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Trade made her tickets meaningless
Luke DeCock, Staff Writer

It wasn't Erik Cole's unique combination of speed, size and skill that reminded Deborah Halaby of the son she lost so long ago, although that certainly helped make her a fan of the former Carolina Hurricanes forward.

There was more to it than that, something harder to define about the unspoken braggadocio embodied in Cole's bull-rushes past flat-footed defensemen and his occasional petulance with the officials that stirred her emotions -- and her memories.

"The arrogance -- his whole stance," Halaby says. "Something just clicked. Every time I saw him, it was just Michael. When Erik got hurt and they'd show him on the Jumbotron, my seatmates would look over at me and I'd be crying."

Halaby was entranced. Her son committed suicide in 1992, when he was 20. Nine years later a 22-year-old Cole skated into her life to help, in some small way, fill the void.

When Halaby faced the difficult choice the past two winters of keeping her Hurricanes season tickets in section 117 of the RBC Center or replacing a broken furnace at her Clayton home, the office manager for Walker Auto Stores in Raleigh chose ice over heat and cranked up the gas logs.

When the Canes traded Cole to the Edmonton Oilers for young defenseman Joni Pitkanen on July 1, Halaby was shattered. Heartbroken isn't the word. She is no stranger to loss, but experience in that area does not translate to consolation.

She played blackjack with Cole at the Hurricanes' charity casino night. She sent him a get-well card when he broke his neck in 2006. She made her way to the RBC Center in sickness and in health. And when her cell phone and office phone rang simultaneously just as her boss walked in with the bad news, she cursed a blue streak.

"My skin had goosebumps," Halaby says. "I went ballistic. I never had words like that come out of my mouth. Really bad words."

Just as it's easy for fans to forget that professional sports are, above all else, a business, it's easy for teams to forget that fandom is, at heart, about love -- or a version of it.

That bond, between fan and team or fan and player, is at the most elemental level what provokes fans to pay a significant amount of money for tickets in the first place.

And while a professional team is always going to do what's in its best interest, whether that concerns the short-term bottom line or long-term profitability -- and shouldn't be begrudged that right -- it's worth pointing out that there can be less calculable costs behind any move.

From the Hurricanes' perspective, the Cole trade made sense in every way. He was in the final year of his contract, with no guarantee the Canes would be able to re-sign him. They were dealing from strength (a surplus of scoring forwards) to address a weakness (a paucity of decent defensemen). An older player was exchanged for a younger one.

That logic was, and remains, unassailable. That Cole loved playing for the Hurricanes and living in the Triangle and ranked among the team's most popular players was merely collateral damage from a trade that was otherwise a slam dunk.

Losing one season-ticket holder was a small price to pay, although Halaby did get an unexpected phone call from Hurricanes general manager Jim Rutherford, who was touched by her story and wanted to offer an explanation, however inadequate it might be to her.

Just as he empathized with her concerns, she understood his logic. She knows it's a business. She just couldn't imagine that could ever intrude on her little hockey world.

Fans are free to exercise the same business calculus as the team, even if few will come to the same decision as Halaby: that the sacrifices she once made for the Hurricanes aren't worth it any more -- except for one night, Nov. 1, when Cole returns to the RBC Center with the Oilers.

"I still love the hockey team, but I think Jim Rutherford has made a big mistake," Halaby says. "I can't support that. I may be one out of thousands, but that's just who I am."

With the money she'll save on hockey tickets, Deborah Halaby may finally get that furnace fixed, although paying a few bills is an attractive option as well. Her heat may or may not be on this winter. Either way her world will be a little colder.

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12-18-2009, 11:10 AM
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If we can get Dubinsky for Stall, I will trade my furnace to Debbie, straight up, no draft picks.

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If we can get Dubinsky for Stall, I will trade my furnace to Debbie, straight up, no draft picks.
Forget about Dubinskee. Callohahn scored 2 goals and had 2 assists last night.

Stall hasn't had a 4 point game since April of last year. I know the Rangers would never do it, but if I was JR, I'd make an offer for Callohohan and Roszival.

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Stall hasn't had a 4 point game since April of last year. I know the Rangers would never do it, but if I was JR, I'd make an offer for Callohohan and Roszival.
Seather mite ask for Larose if you add callohohan.

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Seather mite ask for Larose if you add callohohan.
They'd have to throw in Gaborik to get LaRose.

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Seather mite ask for Larose if you add callohohan.
Chad Larose is a top 6 forward on any team in the league. You just don't let those type of players go for nothing.

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Chad Larose is a top 6 forward on any team in the league. You just don't let those type of players go for nothing.
Agreed u dont let players like Larose go. if we had 20 Chad Laroses we would win the cup every year. id turn in my seson tickets if we traded Larose for Callohohan cuz Callohohan is a soft euro.

i think we could work out a difrnt deal, liek yelle+conboy for Dubinsky. maybe throw in a 6th or a 7th.

then we culd trade Erik Stall for Aron Ward. I hated how JR traded Awardo to the rangers he was sooooooo important in teh Cup run and is a #1 defenseman. how cna u let him go and bring ina soft eURo like joanna? we need more grit n leadership, so we culd get Awardo bak n maybe the Bruins could throw in a gritty offensemen liek Byron Bitz.

then we could get another #1 defenseman liek maybe Bert Hedican we'd win the cup every year if we had Heddy and Awardo on the same pairing. think about it yall:

Heddy-Awardo,
Alberts-Secreet Weapone
Rodney-Berjreon

Heddy an Awardo wuld shut every one down lol i bet Kovulchok wuld be relly scared playing against them. then u culd hav liek a one-two punch by putting Alberts n Teh Secreet Weapone NIcky Wallin on the same pairing lol I love Nicky he has a really nice smile and scores big OT playoff goals. Then you have a GREAT prospect like Brian Rodney paired with Mark-Andrej Berjreon. I think Berjreon is Slovakian or something lol i dunno i saw his stats they are relly good he scored lotz of goals.

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ops sry i forgot to put Rozsival in my lineup. u can put him on the second paeiring with the Secreet Weapone. I thoght about putting Rozy on the first pairing with Awardo but then i figured that it wuld be best 2 have Awardo and Rozy on difrnt pairings so u culd have an elite defenseman on the ice 4 most of the gaem.

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Agreed u dont let players like Larose go. if we had 20 Chad Laroses we would win the cup every year. id turn in my seson tickets if we traded Larose for Callohohan cuz Callohohan is a soft euro.

i think we could work out a difrnt deal, liek yelle+conboy for Dubinsky. maybe throw in a 6th or a 7th.

then we culd trade Erik Stall for Aron Ward.
LMAO


It's Staal ...Being a Rangers fan you think you would know that with his brother playing there

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LMAO


It's Staal ...Being a Rangers fan you think you would know that with his brother playing there
It's apparent you have no understanding, of the game of hockey, if you think that his name is, spelled Staal...

Quit talking out of your ass...

I think I'm done with you.

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It's Staal ...Being a Rangers fan you think you would know that with his brother playing there
Oh jeez.

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WTF? Somebody voted for Gretzky! This is an outrage!
It was the Rangers fan Loto68.

It's clear that Rangers fans do not appreciate the greatness of Brandon Dubinsky. THEY DON'T DESERVE HIM.

I would ask not only for Gary Bettman to force a Dubinsky-to-Carolina trade, but for Loto68 to be banned permanently from HFBoards. His vote deeply offends me and I believe it could be considered libel to say that Mr. Dubinsky is anything less than the great hockey player of all time.

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Oh jeez.


I guess some people can't appreciate the joke.





Hint: go check out the St. Louis - Carolina Trade proposal on the main board to understand where this came from

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It was the Rangers fan Loto68.

It's clear that Rangers fans do not appreciate the greatness of Brandon Dubinsky. THEY DON'T DESERVE HIM.

I would ask not only for Gary Bettman to force a Dubinsky-to-Carolina trade, but for Loto68 to be banned permanently from HFBoards. His vote deeply offends me and I believe it could be considered libel to say that Mr. Dubinsky is anything less than the great hockey player of all time.
Are you able to change the poll? I think I might want to change my vote to Callohohon now. I mean..he got 4 points last night. Not 3, not 2....he got 4.

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Are you able to change the poll? I think I might want to change my vote to Callohohon now. I mean..he got 4 points last night. Not 3, not 2....he got 4.

Dude, seriouslee... You just need to have some patience... Once Erhic Cole and Doobinskee start playing on the same line, we'll have no use for any more goals. Especially, with LaRosa on their other wing.

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Hey Canes fans. Blues fans here..I come in peace. I'm not one of those trolls that always come to other teams boards. Since Stall is available, I think the Blues have what it takes. I am by NO MEANS doubting the greatness that is Dubinsky..but I think the Blues can make a good offer.

Andy Mcdonald ($4.7cap)
Alex Pietrangelo ($3.195cap est)
Alex Steen ($1.7mil cap)
2011 2nd Rounder

For

Erik Stall

Andy Mac gives the canes a capable 1st line Centerfor 4 years to help replace Stall's offensive production. They get a very solid 2 way 3rd liner in Steen and a potential #1 dman going forward in Pietrangelo along with a 2nd next year to add another prospect. They add about $1.6 mil in cap but that's negated by adding 2 additional roster players giving them the ability to drop or trade 2 lesser players from their roster.

As far as the trade, GM Rutherford is no dummy, but he may be asked to go the extra mile to get rid of some salary and to change the make-up of the team. I think he's under pressure, but has the luxury of having several salary dump/trade chips for the deadline.

The Canes are not terrible and in the very weak Eastern Conference Carolina may make a run. They need cap flexibility right now. Stall may be Rutherford's worst deal yet. Not that the deal in itself is terrible, but that it caused a ripple effect across his roster. Too much money tied up in too few players.

Thoughts?

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Hey Canes fans. Blues fans here..I come in peace. I'm not one of those trolls that always come to other teams boards. Since Stall is available, I think the Blues have what it takes. I am by NO MEANS doubting the greatness that is Dubinsky..but I think the Blues can make a good offer.

Andy Mcdonald ($4.7cap)
Alex Pietrangelo ($3.195cap est)
Alex Steen ($1.7mil cap)
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For

Erik Stall

Andy Mac gives the canes a capable 1st line Centerfor 4 years to help replace Stall's offensive production. They get a very solid 2 way 3rd liner in Steen and a potential #1 dman going forward in Pietrangelo along with a 2nd next year to add another prospect. They add about $1.6 mil in cap but that's negated by adding 2 additional roster players giving them the ability to drop or trade 2 lesser players from their roster.

As far as the trade, GM Rutherford is no dummy, but he may be asked to go the extra mile to get rid of some salary and to change the make-up of the team. I think he's under pressure, but has the luxury of having several salary dump/trade chips for the deadline.

The Canes are not terrible and in the very weak Eastern Conference Carolina may make a run. They need cap flexibility right now. Stall may be Rutherford's worst deal yet. Not that the deal in itself is terrible, but that it caused a ripple effect across his roster. Too much money tied up in too few players.

Thoughts?
If a deal for Stall was to go down, then I'd say the central player involved for The Blues is definitely Kariya. The Canes are over the cap and need to be flexible, so I think Kariya, Steen and a 1st rounder would do. Or Kariya, Berglund and a 2nd rounder.

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