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12-18-2009, 06:40 AM
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Radulov?

Had trouble finding any old threads and wasnt sure if should go in the prospects update...

Was looking at this seasons stats and it looks like he's on pace to have a strong season. Not sure how many games they play or what the competition is like, but if they play 82, he's on track for around 42G and 97 points. (Assuming my math is correct)

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=77322
2009-2010 GP 33 G 17 A 23
2008-2009 GP 52 G 22 A 26

Does anyone know how he's playing, besides what the stats indicate? And do we have any more insight/ speculation on whether or not he's coming back.

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12-18-2009, 06:50 AM
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We are playing well and hopefully that continues, but I would think he could be a nice addition when the hunt for the post season begins. Assuming he has matured as both a player and a person.

An old article, but it mentions the possability of him playing when his KHL season ends.

http://*******************/articles/...tanley-cup-run

If nothing else, get him back for any help we might need in post season play. If it doesnt work out then we'll know and other GMs will have gotten to see him play. Which may help any future trade talks. If it does appear that it will work, then we can plan on that going in to the draft and free agency.

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From what I've been told he has been great over there. I'm told he is one of (if not) the best players in the KHL. I would think that he will be back once his current contract over there is over (and maybe before knowing him), but I doubt he will be a Predator. I could see him coming back for Montreal because of his junior ties there or in a bigger hockey market.

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We are playing well and hopefully that continues, but I would think he could be a nice addition when the hunt for the post season begins. Assuming he has matured as both a player and a person.

An old article, but it mentions the possability of him playing when his KHL season ends.

http://*******************/articles/...tanley-cup-run

If nothing else, get him back for any help we might need in post season play. If it doesnt work out then we'll know and other GMs will have gotten to see him play. Which may help any future trade talks. If it does appear that it will work, then we can plan on that going in to the draft and free agency.
Link doesn't work man.

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I don't mean to be combative, but... this thread, like Radulov, seems irrelevant right now. We are playing extremely well without him. Adding Rads to the mix later this year might ruin what I think is are major reasons for our success -- chemistry and a lack of ego.

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From what I've been told he has been great over there. I'm told he is one of (if not) the best players in the KHL. I would think that he will be back once his current contract over there is over (and maybe before knowing him), but I doubt he will be a Predator. I could see him coming back for Montreal because of his junior ties there or in a bigger hockey market.

Nobody knows if he feels that way or not. It wouldn't surprise me but Rads never mentioned not liking it in Nashville and he always seemed like pretty straight shooter so I'm sure we would of heard something had he felt that way. Regardless, the road back to the NHL is through Nashville since we own his rights and he still has a year left on his ELC I believe. He won't get to pick and choose where he wants to go.

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I won't be surprised if the KHL ponies up another nice contract for him and he never plays in the NHL again. He could make bigger money over here, but he may not want to take the one year pay cut and still be restricted. The money he already makes and living and working near to home probably is a pretty good gig.

I expect him to stay in the KHL more than I expect Nashville will get anything for his rights. If he could come back unrestricted then I'm sure he'd take the big money and we'd get something for him in a trade, but that's not the way it is.

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The KHL plays 56 games plus playoffs.


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I won't be surprised if the KHL ponies up another nice contract for him and he never plays in the NHL again. He could make bigger money over here, but he may not want to take the one year pay cut and still be restricted. The money he already makes and living and working near to home probably is a pretty good gig.
But if he hates it there and wants to come back (which is what Poile said after the World Championships), I think he'd be willing to take a pay cut with all the money he has made in Russia. He can buy a nice house, bring over his family, and then get that big second contract shortly after the season has started.

Despite all the heat Radulov has taken from us and likely more so from inside the organization, I think we would all welcome back a matured Radulov with open arms. The guy has some of the most insane hands this team has or likely will ever see, and his trade value will be very low, even if he has already committed to a return.

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The KHL plays 56 games plus playoffs.

But if he hates it there and wants to come back (which is what Poile said after the World Championships), I think he'd be willing to take a pay cut with all the money he has made in Russia. He can buy a nice house, bring over his family, and then get that big second contract shortly after the season has started.

Despite all the heat Radulov has taken from us and likely more so from inside the organization, I think we would all welcome back a matured Radulov with open arms. The guy has some of the most insane hands this team has or likely will ever see, and his trade value will be very low, even if he has already committed to a return.
I don't doubt we'd be willing to sign him. But if he said he wanted somewhere else (maybe figuring he'd make more money in a bigger or more rabid market or just wanted a town with more Russkies) I don't think Poile would complain about it because he could swing a good return from trading Radulov I'm sure. I strongly disagree his trade value would be low if he committed to return.

I don't remember Radulov saying anything close to hating it in the KHL. I was pretty sure he just said (according to Poile) that he felt he had made a mistake and wished to return. (Remember some here were wondering if he just said what he felt Poile wanted to hear) But his production over there has made him a big man on campus now, and one of the poster boys for the KHL. So, just saying I won't be surprised if they can come up with enough money to sway him again.

A few of the points made in the thread have some impact, such as fewer games. And the lower taxes. I thought Russia was a flat 15%. And on millions the U.S. top rate is, what 35? 38?, plus other taxes, local and state, but I don't know how those compare to Russia.

If he wants the best competition, it's the NHL, and to prove himself against the best. But who knows if that matters much to him or not. He may actually want to help the KHL grow for all I know.


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I don't mean to be combative, but... this thread, like Radulov, seems irrelevant right now. We are playing extremely well without him. Adding Rads to the mix later this year might ruin what I think is are major reasons for our success -- chemistry and a lack of ego.
Again, we are playing well and can potentially make an impact in post season play with who we have now. With that being said, guys like Smithson, Jones, Tootoo, etc. are not goalscorers/playmakers. They have been showing signs of brilliance and are getting some good breaks, but again are not players who will consistantly put points on the board. IMO, we make the playoffs between 6-8 spot, play well defensively and get bumped when we cant complement our d with enough goals.
I do not by any means think that Rads is our savior and will carry us to the cup. But you can not deny that he has a touch that most our players simply dont have.

As irrelavant as it may be now, we've all discussed trades where the rights to Radulov would be included as part of the package. It would be a lot more apetizing if he were back in the states and could easily be seen by other GMs, assuming that he has not matured and we want nothing to do with him. IMO, if he's in the states, playing well, but we dont want him, we get a hell of alot better return than saying here are the rights to a potential star, but he may or may not ever play for you.

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Link doesn't work man.
http://*******************/articles/...tanley-cup-run

Lets try this again...

Dont know what the problem is. ( I just google searched his name and it was the fifth article from the top, from the Bleacher Report.) Dont know if that helps.


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http://*******************/articles/...tanley-cup-run

Lets try this again...

Dont know what the problem is. ( I just google searched his name and it was the fifth article from the top, from the Bleacher Report.) Dont know if that helps.
The link isn't coming through because this site filters it-- due to its lack of credibility\history of false rumors.

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